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Were there to be a largescale invasion of Armenia - who would you support?

Armenia
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Azerbaijan
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Zhong-guo
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Postby Zhong-guo » Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:41 pm

No.
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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:42 pm

Zhong-guo wrote:No.

Elaborate.
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Awqnia
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Postby Awqnia » Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:43 pm

Well I couldn't pronounce Azerbaijan until a couple days ago.
But Armenia and Georgia are very easy.
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Zhong-guo
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Postby Zhong-guo » Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:54 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Zhong-guo wrote:No.

Elaborate.

A policy of strategic ambiguity. Refusal of Armenia to hand over districts surrounding Nagorno Karabakh. After First Karabakh War Armenia captured not only most of Nagorno Karabakh but also 7 districts surrounding NK, which had ethnic Azerbaijani majority. The control of Armenian forces over 7 districts surrounding NK was charachterized as “occupation” by 4 UN Security Council resolutions. In 1997 and in 2011 Azerbaijan offered Armenia to return those regions in exchange of peace guarantees and sending international peacekeepers to NK. However, several Armenian governments wanted to use those regions as bargain in negotations process. Armenia’s refusal to return those regions made Second Karabakh War inevitable.

While it is indeed subjective whether it should be recognised - the answer is simply, no.
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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:55 pm

Zhong-guo wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:Elaborate.

A policy of strategic ambiguity. Refusal of Armenia to hand over districts surrounding Nagorno Karabakh. After First Karabakh War Armenia captured not only most of Nagorno Karabakh but also 7 districts surrounding NK, which had ethnic Azerbaijani majority. The control of Armenian forces over 7 districts surrounding NK was charachterized as “occupation” by 4 UN Security Council resolutions. In 1997 and in 2011 Azerbaijan offered Armenia to return those regions in exchange of peace guarantees and sending international peacekeepers to NK. However, several Armenian governments wanted to use those regions as bargain in negotations process. Armenia’s refusal to return those regions made Second Karabakh War inevitable.

While it is indeed subjective whether it should be recognised - the answer is simply, no.

What do you think about Azerbaijan's genocide of ethnic Armenians?
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The House of Hamid
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Postby The House of Hamid » Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:06 am

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Perikuresu
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Postby Perikuresu » Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:26 am


Australia is one of those nations in a tight spot considering that officially we don't count what happened to Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians as a genocide, but we have recognised that the Ottomans have basically committed horrible atrocities against these peoples and their culture. (+ the bond and 'friendship' forged between Turkey and Australia resulting from the Gallipoli campaign)

Also I was weirded out when I didn't hear this news all over the ABC and SBS, and now I can see why. When I dived deeper into this, it looks like it's just the NSW branch of the Liberal Party, which doesn't really do much on a global scale. And the NSW Liberals are well known for being corrupt to high hell and Dominic, their current leader is on shaky ground (and the previous leader quit due to corruption) so I wouldn't get chummy with them.
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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:28 am

Perikuresu wrote:

Australia is one of those nations in a tight spot considering that officially we don't count what happened to Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians as a genocide, but we have recognised that the Ottomans have basically committed horrible atrocities against these peoples and their culture. (+ the bond and 'friendship' forged between Turkey and Australia resulting from the Gallipoli campaign)

Also I was weirded out when I didn't hear this news all over the ABC and SBS, and now I can see why. When I dived deeper into this, it looks like it's just the NSW branch of the Liberal Party, which doesn't really do much on a global scale. And the NSW Liberals are well known for being corrupt to high hell and Dominic, their current leader is on shaky ground (and the previous leader quit due to corruption) so I wouldn't get chummy with them.


I see...well, at least it's something - I suppose.
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Colombia 3
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Founded: Aug 05, 2022
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Artsakh

Postby Colombia 3 » Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:33 am

Artsakh.I’m sorry but I think you don’t belong here.You see,a week before,I went to Turkey to Istanbul and Antalya.I mean,I really liked it there but the shape of Armenia if it had the disputed territory of Artsakh,the borders would make abousutely no sense, AND of top of that,(I think) it’s located in Azerbaijan and would look weird.So number one,No,it should not be and number 2,don’t tell this to the Armenian goverment or else he’ll get angry and be like:WHY WHY WHYYYYY.So I’m sorry Armenia but I just went to Turkey recently.Bye.

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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:38 am

Colombia 3 wrote:Artsakh.I’m sorry but I think you don’t belong here.You see,a week before,I went to Turkey to Istanbul and Antalya.I mean,I really liked it there but the shape of Armenia if it had the disputed territory of Artsakh,the borders would make abousutely no sense, AND of top of that,(I think) it’s located in Azerbaijan and would look weird.So number one,No,it should not be and number 2,don’t tell this to the Armenian goverment or else he’ll get angry and be like:WHY WHY WHYYYYY.So I’m sorry Armenia but I just went to Turkey recently.Bye.


So...what I've gathered from your argument is that you've went to Turkey, and you think Artsakh's borders look weird. I don't exactly get what you're trying to say here.
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Yupi City
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Postby Yupi City » Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:38 am

Yes

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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:42 am

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A greater fatherland.
An Armenian's dream.
A Turk's nightmare.
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The House of Hamid
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Postby The House of Hamid » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:03 am

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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:07 am

The House of Hamid wrote:


LOL turning on each other now? :D

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Ah yes, literal fucking treason is very funny...especially when they're working with genocidal psychopaths.
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A greater fatherland.
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A Turk's nightmare.
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The House of Hamid
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Postby The House of Hamid » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:23 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
The House of Hamid wrote:
LOL turning on each other now? :D

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Ah yes, literal fucking treason is very funny...especially when they're working with genocidal psychopaths.


openly made anti-Armenian statements in his Facebook posts in 2022, in which he praised the Azerbaijani authorities and criticized the actions of the Armenian armed forces during the Artsakh-Azerbaijani war that started on September 27, 2020, as well as petitioning to the President of Azerbaijan, he asked to be granted Azerbaijani citizenship and to be given the opportunity to live and work in the city of Stepanakert, under the jurisdiction of Azerbaijan.


So... he's critical of Paşinyans regime and its warcrimes, and wants to live in another country. And that's High Treason... What fine, democratic sentiments those are! :eyebrow:
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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:25 am

The House of Hamid wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Ah yes, literal fucking treason is very funny...especially when they're working with genocidal psychopaths.


openly made anti-Armenian statements in his Facebook posts in 2022, in which he praised the Azerbaijani authorities and criticized the actions of the Armenian armed forces during the Artsakh-Azerbaijani war that started on September 27, 2020, as well as petitioning to the President of Azerbaijan, he asked to be granted Azerbaijani citizenship and to be given the opportunity to live and work in the city of Stepanakert, under the jurisdiction of Azerbaijan.


So... he's critical of Paşinyans regime and its warcrimes, and wants to live in another country. And that's High Treason... What fine, democratic sentiments those are! :eyebrow:


Ah, so I guess we should've just cooperated with the Turks as they slaughtered us, huh?

EDIT: I mean, come on...the Azeri government considers our race 'less-than-human'.
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A greater fatherland.
An Armenian's dream.
A Turk's nightmare.
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The House of Hamid
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Postby The House of Hamid » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:30 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
The House of Hamid wrote:


So... he's critical of Paşinyans regime and its warcrimes, and wants to live in another country. And that's High Treason... What fine, democratic sentiments those are! :eyebrow:


Ah, so I guess we should've just cooperated with the Turks as they slaughtered us, huh?

EDIT: I mean, come on...the Azeri government considers our race 'less-than-human'.


...Race? What are you, a dog-breed? :eyebrow:

I have never seen the Azeri government engaging in any of the sort, could you get some evidence on that? As for the usual: well, you coukld maybe not have actively allied with the bloody tsarist russians in wartime, or killed less Ottoman officials and subjects, that might have lessened anti-ermeni sentiment.
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Yaşasın Azərbaycan Qəhrəmanları!
"Fakat zehir kadar acı olsa da hakikat ilacını içiniz." - Kâzım Karabekir
Better to have lived a free man and be damned than to have lived a slave and be rewarded for it.

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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:31 am

The House of Hamid wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Ah, so I guess we should've just cooperated with the Turks as they slaughtered us, huh?

EDIT: I mean, come on...the Azeri government considers our race 'less-than-human'.


...Race? What are you, a dog-breed? :eyebrow:

I have never seen the Azeri government engaging in any of the sort, could you get some evidence on that? As for the usual: well, you coukld maybe not have actively allied with the bloody tsarist russians in wartime, or killed less Ottoman officials and subjects, that might have lessened anti-ermeni sentiment.


Remember, guys, committing genocide is perfectly fine if people oppose your genocidal regime!
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A Turk's nightmare.
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The House of Hamid
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Postby The House of Hamid » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:37 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
The House of Hamid wrote:
...Race? What are you, a dog-breed? :eyebrow:

I have never seen the Azeri government engaging in any of the sort, could you get some evidence on that? As for the usual: well, you coukld maybe not have actively allied with the bloody tsarist russians in wartime, or killed less Ottoman officials and subjects, that might have lessened anti-ermeni sentiment.


Remember, guys, committing genocide is perfectly fine if people oppose your genocidal regime!


Yes, and don't forget how every turk is a murderer and racist... f***s sake, come off it already. Get back to the accusation that the Azeri government sees your people as subhumans, how about some evidence on that?
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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:39 am

The House of Hamid wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Remember, guys, committing genocide is perfectly fine if people oppose your genocidal regime!


Yes, and don't forget how every turk is a murderer and racist... f***s sake, come off it already. Get back to the accusation that the Azeri government sees your people as subhumans, how about some evidence on that?


This took...three seconds to find, Mehmet.
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Postby Vistulange » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:40 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
The House of Hamid wrote:


So... he's critical of Paşinyans regime and its warcrimes, and wants to live in another country. And that's High Treason... What fine, democratic sentiments those are! :eyebrow:


Ah, so I guess we should've just cooperated with the Turks as they slaughtered us, huh?

EDIT: I mean, come on...the Azeri government considers our race 'less-than-human'.

Again with the fucking strawmen. For fuck's sake, stop it. You look ridiculous.

High treason, my arse.
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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:42 am

Vistulange wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Ah, so I guess we should've just cooperated with the Turks as they slaughtered us, huh?

EDIT: I mean, come on...the Azeri government considers our race 'less-than-human'.

Again with the fucking strawmen. For fuck's sake, stop it. You look ridiculous.

High treason, my arse.

trea·son
[ˈtrēzən]
NOUN
high treason (noun)
the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government:
"they were convicted of treason"
synonyms:
treachery · lese-majesty · disloyalty · betrayal · faithlessness · perfidy · perfidiousness · duplicity · infidelity · sedition · subversion · mutiny · rebellion · high treason · Punic faith
the action of betraying someone or something:
"doubt is the ultimate treason against faith"
synonyms:
treachery · lese-majesty · disloyalty · betrayal · faithlessness · perfidy · perfidiousness · duplicity · infidelity · sedition · subversion · mutiny · rebellion · high treason · Punic faith
historical
the crime of murdering someone to whom the murderer owed allegiance, such as a master or husband.


Espionage is treason, yes?

EDIT: Were those who collaborated with Nazi Germany or, any genocidal regime, not traitors?
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The House of Hamid
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Postby The House of Hamid » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:45 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
The House of Hamid wrote:
Yes, and don't forget how every turk is a murderer and racist... f***s sake, come off it already. Get back to the accusation that the Azeri government sees your people as subhumans, how about some evidence on that?


This took...three seconds to find, Mehmet.


Yes, but it does not in any way relate to your statement.

the Azeri government considers our race 'less-than-human'.


That article does not mention the word "race" even once, unsurprisingly. There is zero evidence for your accusation in there.
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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:47 am

The House of Hamid wrote:


Yes, but it does not in any way relate to your statement.

the Azeri government considers our race 'less-than-human'.


That article does not mention the word "race" even once, unsurprisingly. There is zero evidence for your accusation in there.


Well...I guess you didn't read it, then. Because it quite literally details how the Azeri government is destroying our culture.
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