Armenia-Azerbaijan Clashes

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

I am honored to be a true Republican People's Party soldier, I advise you to speak from the mouth of political Islamists. you write for ethnic nations, I don't find it right to talk about ethnic nations, I advocate unlimited land livelihood for all humanity.

1-I never support the Armenian government because they forcibly occupied the mountainous Karabakh, they take their power from the Armenian national socialism mentality. on the island of Cyprus, there was the EOKA mentality that killed the Turkish Cypriots and Greeks. The Republic of Turkey will always be on duty to protect its kin.
2-Events in Kurdistan and Turkmeneli are much more complex. I believe that Iraq should have territorial integrity. Ottoman lovers miss Kurdistan, but we will not let a second Saudi Arabia incident happen to the people of these lands.
3-The values ​​of the European Union are to provide an environment where there are no borders, where everyone can freely express their wishes.You will understand what I mean, please compare the countries of the European Union with the unjust states of the Middle East.

We will send those who do not work in harmony with the European Union, especially the racist and bigoted Putin supporters, from Roman lands. We will expel the political Islamist mentality from these lands with education. Against your mentality, we will defend secular social democracy and social liberalism.

'Political Islamist mentality'

Armenia and Russia are predominately Christian nations...

I can prove that politically religious nationalists are the same, regardless of whether they are Armenian, Turkish, Muslim or Christian. What would it look like if the boots of the Social Democrat Kemalist soldiers were on the collapsed walls of Ayasofya ? Then the fascist Armenians and Turks who were against us would have been friends, just as the cowardly Ottoman sultan Vahdettin took refuge in the imperialists in 1922. I hope that the borders between Armenia, Turkey and Azerbaijan will be lifted and they will be as in the European Union states.

İrticaya Geçit Yok !

[Biladu Al Rafidayn]

'Political Islamist mentality'

Armenia and Russia are predominately Christian nations...

I can prove that politically religious nationalists are the same, regardless of whether they are Armenian, Turkish, Muslim or Christian. What would it look like if the boots of the Social Democrat Kemalist soldiers were on the collapsed walls of Ayasofya ? Then the fascist Armenians and Turks who were against us would have been friends, just as the cowardly Ottoman sultan Vahdettin took refuge in the imperialists in 1922. I hope that the borders between Armenia, Turkey and Azerbaijan will be lifted and they will be as in the European Union states.

İrticaya Geçit Yok !

Dont you have to be democratic to join the EU? Azerbaijan and Turkey aren’t democratic. So maybe your idea won’t be a very good copy…

[Perikuresu]

I can prove that politically religious nationalists are the same, regardless of whether they are Armenian, Turkish, Muslim or Christian. What would it look like if the boots of the Social Democrat Kemalist soldiers were on the collapsed walls of Ayasofya ? Then the fascist Armenians and Turks who were against us would have been friends, just as the cowardly Ottoman sultan Vahdettin took refuge in the imperialists in 1922. I hope that the borders between Armenia, Turkey and Azerbaijan will be lifted and they will be as in the European Union states.

İrticaya Geçit Yok !

Turkey's accession talks has been frozen by the EU, fucking Serbia of all European nations has more progress than Turkey in joining the EU

[Hestonworld]

I can prove that politically religious nationalists are the same, regardless of whether they are Armenian, Turkish, Muslim or Christian. What would it look like if the boots of the Social Democrat Kemalist soldiers were on the collapsed walls of Ayasofya ? Then the fascist Armenians and Turks who were against us would have been friends, just as the cowardly Ottoman sultan Vahdettin took refuge in the imperialists in 1922. I hope that the borders between Armenia, Turkey and Azerbaijan will be lifted and they will be as in the European Union states.

İrticaya Geçit Yok !

Turkey's accession talks has been frozen by the EU, fucking Serbia of all European nations has more progress than Turkey in joining the EU

The major difference being that their genocidal and imperial tendencies have been mostly bombed out of them. Not so with Turkey.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

I can prove that politically religious nationalists are the same, regardless of whether they are Armenian, Turkish, Muslim or Christian. What would it look like if the boots of the Social Democrat Kemalist soldiers were on the collapsed walls of Ayasofya ? Then the fascist Armenians and Turks who were against us would have been friends, just as the cowardly Ottoman sultan Vahdettin took refuge in the imperialists in 1922. I hope that the borders between Armenia, Turkey and Azerbaijan will be lifted and they will be as in the European Union states.

İrticaya Geçit Yok !

Dont you have to be democratic to join the EU? Azerbaijan and Turkey aren’t democratic. So maybe your idea won’t be a very good copy…

I totally agree that the current administrations of Turkey and Azerbaijan are not democratic and I know the culprit is political piety. admiration for the middle east embellished with political piety. The solution is to go back to the good old days. The solution is for the modern social democrat Kemalists to come to power in Turkey because we will be the nightmare of the racists. Same-sex marriage will be legalized, Ayasofya will be a museum again, and I will be happy to do it in front of right-wing fascists. Right-wing racist, religious Turks and Armenians, this is what I wrote for you, you have to live in our centre-left social democratic utopia, if you don't like it, you can go to the middle east deserts!

[Hestonworld]

Dont you have to be democratic to join the EU? Azerbaijan and Turkey aren’t democratic. So maybe your idea won’t be a very good copy…

I totally agree that the current administrations of Turkey and Azerbaijan are not democratic and I know the culprit is political piety. admiration for the middle east embellished with political piety. The solution is to go back to the good old days. The solution is for the modern social democrat Kemalists to come to power in Turkey because we will be the nightmare of the racists. Same-sex marriage will be legalized, Ayasofya will be a museum again, and I will be happy to do it in front of right-wing fascists. Right-wing racist, religious Turks and Armenians, this is what I wrote for you, you have to live in our centre-left social democratic utopia, if you don't like it, you can go to the middle east deserts!

I'd prefer the Kurds over the nationalists and islamists competing on who can slaughter them faster.

[-Astoria-]

At this rate, that option appears to be the best available.

[Biladu Al Rafidayn]

Dont you have to be democratic to join the EU? Azerbaijan and Turkey aren’t democratic. So maybe your idea won’t be a very good copy…

I totally agree that the current administrations of Turkey and Azerbaijan are not democratic and I know the culprit is political piety. admiration for the middle east embellished with political piety. The solution is to go back to the good old days. The solution is for the modern social democrat Kemalists to come to power in Turkey because we will be the nightmare of the racists. Same-sex marriage will be legalized, Ayasofya will be a museum again, and I will be happy to do it in front of right-wing fascists. Right-wing racist, religious Turks and Armenians, this is what I wrote for you, you have to live in our centre-left social democratic utopia, if you don't like it, you can go to the middle east deserts!

Oh, my, god. Both countries have secular governments, you know?

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

I totally agree that the current administrations of Turkey and Azerbaijan are not democratic and I know the culprit is political piety. admiration for the middle east embellished with political piety. The solution is to go back to the good old days. The solution is for the modern social democrat Kemalists to come to power in Turkey because we will be the nightmare of the racists. Same-sex marriage will be legalized, Ayasofya will be a museum again, and I will be happy to do it in front of right-wing fascists. Right-wing racist, religious Turks and Armenians, this is what I wrote for you, you have to live in our centre-left social democratic utopia, if you don't like it, you can go to the middle east deserts!

Oh, my, god. Both countries have secular governments, you know?

Turkey is neither a secular nor a democratic country. do you understand me ?

[-Astoria-]

I totally agree that the current administrations of Turkey and Azerbaijan are not democratic and I know the culprit is political piety. admiration for the middle east embellished with political piety. The solution is to go back to the good old days. The solution is for the modern social democrat Kemalists to come to power in Turkey because we will be the nightmare of the racists. Same-sex marriage will be legalized, Ayasofya will be a museum again, and I will be happy to do it in front of right-wing fascists. Right-wing racist, religious Turks and Armenians, this is what I wrote for you, you have to live in our centre-left social democratic utopia, if you don't like it, you can go to the middle east deserts!

Oh, my, god. Both countries have secular governments, you know?

Keep in mind the leaders currently running the two.

[Biladu Al Rafidayn]

Oh, my, god. Both countries have secular governments, you know?

Turkey is neither a secular nor a democratic country. do you understand me ?

I get the non-democratic bit, but how is it not secular? If Islam is meddling in Turkey’s government, why is the burka banned? I get that Erdogan is changing stuff, but still

Oh, my, god. Both countries have secular governments, you know?

Keep in mind the leaders currently running the two.

I get Erdogan, but Aliyev is aggressively secular

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Turkey is neither a secular nor a democratic country. do you understand me ?

I get the non-democratic bit, but how is it not secular? If Islam is meddling in Turkey’s government, why is the burka banned? I get that Erdogan is changing stuff, but still

Keep in mind the leaders currently running the two.

I get Erdogan, but Aliyev is aggressively secular

Ilham Aliyev is a Putin supporter, anti-democratic, anti-humanist. He has a video of him laughing when Armenian and Azerbaijani soldiers died. The real secularism is in the lands of France, I think your understanding of secularism is in the opposite direction with your religiousness.

[Hestonworld]

I totally agree that the current administrations of Turkey and Azerbaijan are not democratic and I know the culprit is political piety. admiration for the middle east embellished with political piety. The solution is to go back to the good old days. The solution is for the modern social democrat Kemalists to come to power in Turkey because we will be the nightmare of the racists. Same-sex marriage will be legalized, Ayasofya will be a museum again, and I will be happy to do it in front of right-wing fascists. Right-wing racist, religious Turks and Armenians, this is what I wrote for you, you have to live in our centre-left social democratic utopia, if you don't like it, you can go to the middle east deserts!

Oh, my, god. Both countries have secular governments, you know?

So do the United States and Israel. Both have separation of church and state and it has no influence over the religiosity of the countries.

[Mets Hayk]

I get the non-democratic bit, but how is it not secular? If Islam is meddling in Turkey’s government, why is the burka banned? I get that Erdogan is changing stuff, but still
I get Erdogan, but Aliyev is aggressively secular

Ilham Aliyev is a Putin supporter, anti-democratic, anti-humanist. He has a video of him laughing when Armenian and Azerbaijani soldiers died. The real secularism is in the lands of France, I think your understanding of secularism is in the opposite direction with your religiousness.

You can't really say anything when your whole ideology is built off of cultural genocide.

You do know that, for 'worldwide secularism' to work, you'd have to kill most of the world's population...right? How, in any way, is that 'humanist'? How, in any way, does that sound 'democratic'?

[Vistulange]

Oh, my, god. Both countries have secular governments, you know?

So do the United States and Israel. Both have separation of church and state and it has no influence over the religiosity of the countries.

Israel is pretty blatantly not a secular state. Religious authorities, for example, hold direct influence and authority over civil matters, such as marriage. There exist religious parties, almost always within government—Shas has been in every government since its inception, save for the most recent coalition—whose loyalty are first to their religious leaders, then to the State of Israel. The Status Quo Agreement recognises Orthodox Judaism and explicitly gives Orthodox Jews privileges that non-Orthodox Jewish citizens do not get, such as being allowed to not serve in the military provided they attend a yeshiva. So on and so forth.

Turkey is neither a secular nor a democratic country. do you understand me ?

I get the non-democratic bit, but how is it not secular? If Islam is meddling in Turkey’s government, why is the burka banned? I get that Erdogan is changing stuff, but still

The burka isn't banned. It hasn't been banned since...I think it was the 2007 e-memorandum fiasco, but anyway. Even when it was "banned" through the 28 February Process, it wasn't a "ban" per se, rather, an informal way of pressuring, mobbing, and otherwise coercing people not to adorn the garment. That lasted more or less up until 2007-2009.

[Perikuresu]

How, in any way, is that 'humanist'? How, in any way, does that sound 'democratic'?

It's a pattern I see a lot, people who use the words 'humanists' often advocate for the exact opposite of what is good for humanity, like I literally remember Putin calling Ukraine anti-humanist

[Sordhau]

How, in any way, is that 'humanist'? How, in any way, does that sound 'democratic'?

It's a pattern I see a lot, people who use the words 'humanists' often advocate for the exact opposite of what is good for humanity, like I literally remember Putin calling Ukraine anti-humanist

I'm not certain anyone who uses the term 'humanist' even knows what it means at this point.

[Mets Hayk]

Head of Armenian Armed Forces General Staff informs Russian counterpart about situation in Nagorno Karabakh

[Vistulange]

It's a pattern I see a lot, people who use the words 'humanists' often advocate for the exact opposite of what is good for humanity, like I literally remember Putin calling Ukraine anti-humanist

I'm not certain anyone who uses the term 'humanist' even knows what it means at this point.

It's often confused with "humanitarianism". "Humanist" has barely anything to do with doing what is good for humanity. Rather, it's the concept that humans are rational beings, and that thus decisions of humans are what is most important (as opposed to the divine or supernatural). When the two sound similar, what we end up with is what you describe, regrettably.

[Neoliberal Consensus]

No. Armenia is a pro-Russian puppet and we need to support our NATO ally Turkiye.

[Mets Hayk]

No. Armenia is a pro-Russian puppet and we need to support our NATO ally Turkiye.

Can you explain why Turkey, a nation that kills whomever they see as 'undesirables', should be supported by anyone?

[Hispida]

No. Armenia is a pro-Russian puppet and we need to support our NATO ally Turkiye.

Can you explain why Turkey, a nation that kills whomever they see as 'undesirables', should be supported by anyone?

you fell for the b8 m8

[Neoliberal Consensus]

No. Armenia is a pro-Russian puppet and we need to support our NATO ally Turkiye.

Can you explain why Turkey, a nation that kills whomever they see as 'undesirables', should be supported by anyone?

NATO fights for democracy. Only Trump is anti-NATO (he hates democracy). That's why we need to help Turkiye. Don't let Putin win.

#KyivNotKiev

[Mets Hayk]

Can you explain why Turkey, a nation that kills whomever they see as 'undesirables', should be supported by anyone?

you fell for the b8 m8

Eh...there's always a chance of a decent conversation.

EDIT: Nevermind...

[Eydishshtat]

I would say no. It would stir shit up where it's not needed in already contentious part of the world. Armenia has nothing to offer the West.