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Were there to be a largescale invasion of Armenia - who would you support?

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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:31 am

Perikuresu wrote:Seems awfully quiet here without Hamid here, can't really say the same for Nagorno-Karabakh since Azerbaijan seems ready for a rematch (again) and Russia, the region's peacekeepers (ironically, although they're the only option) doesn't seem to be too keen on protecting Nagorno Karabakh and is stuck in a bear trap right now.


Actually...if news.am's anything to go by, Nagorno-Karabakh's been quiet too.
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Postby Mets Hayk » Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:32 am

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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:36 am

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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:19 am

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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Aug 23, 2022 3:32 pm

I should've posted this earlier:
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Postby Mets Hayk » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:57 am

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Postby Perikuresu » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:20 am


The role of the Russian peacekeeping contingent in ensuring stability in the region was highlighted.

I wouldn't hold my breath on Russia putin in their military for peacekeeping now, especially since Russia's suffering bad manpower shortages, on the surface level, it looks like that Armenia has more chance for peace by allying with Georgia lol
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Postby Mets Hayk » Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:15 am

Perikuresu wrote:

The role of the Russian peacekeeping contingent in ensuring stability in the region was highlighted.

I wouldn't hold my breath on Russia putin in their military for peacekeeping now, especially since Russia's suffering bad manpower shortages, on the surface level, it looks like that Armenia has more chance for peace by allying with Georgia lol


Georgia doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to shit like this...

Remember South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Aug 24, 2022 1:28 pm

Yes, with the Armenian inhabitants being allowed to return to their homes.

Mets Hayk wrote:
Perikuresu wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath on Russia putin in their military for peacekeeping now, especially since Russia's suffering bad manpower shortages, on the surface level, it looks like that Armenia has more chance for peace by allying with Georgia lol


Georgia doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to shit like this...

Remember South Ossetia and Abkhazia?


In fairness to Georgia, IIRC they only received a single airdrop of largely/wholely humanitarian aid from the US when it was already too late, while Ukraine had things like Operation Orbital running for years beforehand along with a boost of military aid shortly before the invasion.
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Postby Russian Byzantine Union » Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:07 am

The House of Hamid wrote:Artsakh is part of Azerbaycan, has been since the 1920s. The "Republic of Artsakh" is at best an analogue of constructs like Luhansk and Donetsk, or the Republika Srpska.


All of which I support and everyone else should too. In the long run, however, unification with their respective motherlands is/should be the goal.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:04 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
Perikuresu wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath on Russia putin in their military for peacekeeping now, especially since Russia's suffering bad manpower shortages, on the surface level, it looks like that Armenia has more chance for peace by allying with Georgia lol


Georgia doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to shit like this...

Remember South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
Because you support this expansionist imperialism, you are not attached to the values ​​of the European Union. Russia and Armenia will lose, justice will win, long live Israel, long live Ukraine, long live Azerbaijan ! Nuremberg International Military Criminal Court reopens for Putin and his supporters. Ptuin supporters like you will not be able to divide Georgia or Azerbaijani lands, we will never allow
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Postby Duvniask » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:37 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Georgia doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to shit like this...

Remember South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
Because you support this expansionist imperialism, you are not attached to the values ​​of the European Union. Russia and Armenia will lose, justice will win, long live Israel, long live Ukraine, long live Azerbaijan ! Nuremberg International Military Criminal Court reopens for Putin and his supporters. Ptuin supporters like you will not be able to divide Georgia or Azerbaijani lands, we will never allow

But apparently CHP supporters like you will be able to divide Cypriot, Iraqi and Syrian lands.

Come on man, you always look so ridiculous because you have complete double standards about all of the things you say. No Karabakh for Armenians, but North Cyprus for Turks. No Kurdistan for Kurds, but Turkmeneli for Turkmen.

What are the "values of the European Union"? Certainly not social democracy, as the EU likes to force neoliberalism down the throats of countries with social democratic governments.
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Postby Perikuresu » Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:12 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
Perikuresu wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath on Russia putin in their military for peacekeeping now, especially since Russia's suffering bad manpower shortages, on the surface level, it looks like that Armenia has more chance for peace by allying with Georgia lol


Georgia doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to shit like this...

Remember South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Well yeah, Tbilisi has some blame on their part but Russia's the main one at fault here for invading Georgia. At least Georgia has the added bonus of not invading a sovereign nation recognised by most UN members and isn't loosing that much manpower
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Postby Mets Hayk » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:07 am

Perikuresu wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Georgia doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to shit like this...

Remember South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

Well yeah, Tbilisi has some blame on their part but Russia's the main one at fault here for invading Georgia. At least Georgia has the added bonus of not invading a sovereign nation recognised by most UN members and isn't loosing that much manpower


I implore you to watch this...


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Postby Mets Hayk » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:34 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Georgia doesn't exactly have the best track record when it comes to shit like this...

Remember South Ossetia and Abkhazia?
Because you support this expansionist imperialism, you are not attached to the values ​​of the European Union. Russia and Armenia will lose, justice will win, long live Israel, long live Ukraine, long live Azerbaijan ! Nuremberg International Military Criminal Court reopens for Putin and his supporters. Ptuin supporters like you will not be able to divide Georgia or Azerbaijani lands, we will never allow


You're right...I fucking hate the European Union. I hate NATO too. Please, do elaborate on why my hatred for said organizations is 'wrong'.
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:58 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Because you support this expansionist imperialism, you are not attached to the values ​​of the European Union. Russia and Armenia will lose, justice will win, long live Israel, long live Ukraine, long live Azerbaijan ! Nuremberg International Military Criminal Court reopens for Putin and his supporters. Ptuin supporters like you will not be able to divide Georgia or Azerbaijani lands, we will never allow


You're right...I fucking hate the European Union. I hate NATO too. Please, do elaborate on why my hatred for said organizations is 'wrong'.

It’s kinda a funny story with him. He likes to bring the EU, Israel and Azerbaijan into every conversation for no apparent reason. Of course, Azerbaijan has a lot to do with this, and Israel a bit, but the EU? Anyway, he hasn’t given me a good answer for any question I have asked him, so I doubt he’ll turn a new leaf
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:07 am

Eh, really split on this one.

It's obvious that in the framework of Azerbaijan there cannot be adequate self-determination and guarantees for the rights of the Armenian ethnic minority. This in itself is a sound pro-independence argument.

Then again, this place is literally a stone's throw from Armenia and would probably make more sense if Artsakh's population simply relocated there? As an independent state, it would be landlocked, surrounded by hostile territory, lacking any means for economic growth. Its independence will merely be a continuing source of conflict that has no conceivable outcome.

More inclined towards not, tbh.

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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:11 am

Bulgar Rouge wrote:Eh, really split on this one.

It's obvious that in the framework of Azerbaijan there cannot be adequate self-determination and guarantees for the rights of the Armenian ethnic minority. This in itself is a sound pro-independence argument.

Then again, this place is literally a stone's throw from Armenia and would probably make more sense if Artsakh's population simply relocated there? As an independent state, it would be landlocked, surrounded by hostile territory, lacking any means for economic growth. Its independence will merely be a continuing source of conflict that has no conceivable outcome.

More inclined towards not, tbh.

What if Armenia annexed it?
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:15 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Bulgar Rouge wrote:Eh, really split on this one.

It's obvious that in the framework of Azerbaijan there cannot be adequate self-determination and guarantees for the rights of the Armenian ethnic minority. This in itself is a sound pro-independence argument.

Then again, this place is literally a stone's throw from Armenia and would probably make more sense if Artsakh's population simply relocated there? As an independent state, it would be landlocked, surrounded by hostile territory, lacking any means for economic growth. Its independence will merely be a continuing source of conflict that has no conceivable outcome.

More inclined towards not, tbh.

What if Armenia annexed it?


Sounds optimal, except Azerbaijan would never allow that.

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Postby Theodores Tomfooleries » Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:38 pm

Why recognize if it'll just be swallowed up into Armenia soon as it is?
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Postby Mets Hayk » Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:41 pm

Theodores Tomfooleries wrote:Why recognize if it'll just be swallowed up into Armenia soon as it is?

Would you rather have it that Azerbaijan continues their genocide of my people in Nagorno-Karabakh?
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:08 pm

Duvniask wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Because you support this expansionist imperialism, you are not attached to the values ​​of the European Union. Russia and Armenia will lose, justice will win, long live Israel, long live Ukraine, long live Azerbaijan ! Nuremberg International Military Criminal Court reopens for Putin and his supporters. Ptuin supporters like you will not be able to divide Georgia or Azerbaijani lands, we will never allow

But apparently CHP supporters like you will be able to divide Cypriot, Iraqi and Syrian lands.

Come on man, you always look so ridiculous because you have complete double standards about all of the things you say. No Karabakh for Armenians, but North Cyprus for Turks. No Kurdistan for Kurds, but Turkmeneli for Turkmen.

What are the "values of the European Union"? Certainly not social democracy, as the EU likes to force neoliberalism down the throats of countries with social democratic governments.
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1-I never support the Armenian government because they forcibly occupied the mountainous Karabakh, they take their power from the Armenian national socialism mentality. on the island of Cyprus, there was the EOKA mentality that killed the Turkish Cypriots and Greeks. The Republic of Turkey will always be on duty to protect its kin.
2-Events in Kurdistan and Turkmeneli are much more complex. I believe that Iraq should have territorial integrity. Ottoman lovers miss Kurdistan, but we will not let a second Saudi Arabia incident happen to the people of these lands.
3-The values ​​of the European Union are to provide an environment where there are no borders, where everyone can freely express their wishes.You will understand what I mean, please compare the countries of the European Union with the unjust states of the Middle East.

Mets Hayk wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Because you support this expansionist imperialism, you are not attached to the values ​​of the European Union. Russia and Armenia will lose, justice will win, long live Israel, long live Ukraine, long live Azerbaijan ! Nuremberg International Military Criminal Court reopens for Putin and his supporters. Ptuin supporters like you will not be able to divide Georgia or Azerbaijani lands, we will never allow


You're right...I fucking hate the European Union. I hate NATO too. Please, do elaborate on why my hatred for said organizations is 'wrong'.
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Postby Mets Hayk » Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:18 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Duvniask wrote:But apparently CHP supporters like you will be able to divide Cypriot, Iraqi and Syrian lands.

Come on man, you always look so ridiculous because you have complete double standards about all of the things you say. No Karabakh for Armenians, but North Cyprus for Turks. No Kurdistan for Kurds, but Turkmeneli for Turkmen.

What are the "values of the European Union"? Certainly not social democracy, as the EU likes to force neoliberalism down the throats of countries with social democratic governments.
I am honored to be a true Republican People's Party soldier, I advise you to speak from the mouth of political Islamists. you write for ethnic nations, I don't find it right to talk about ethnic nations, I advocate unlimited land livelihood for all humanity.

1-I never support the Armenian government because they forcibly occupied the mountainous Karabakh, they take their power from the Armenian national socialism mentality. on the island of Cyprus, there was the EOKA mentality that killed the Turkish Cypriots and Greeks. The Republic of Turkey will always be on duty to protect its kin.
2-Events in Kurdistan and Turkmeneli are much more complex. I believe that Iraq should have territorial integrity. Ottoman lovers miss Kurdistan, but we will not let a second Saudi Arabia incident happen to the people of these lands.
3-The values ​​of the European Union are to provide an environment where there are no borders, where everyone can freely express their wishes.You will understand what I mean, please compare the countries of the European Union with the unjust states of the Middle East.

Mets Hayk wrote:
You're right...I fucking hate the European Union. I hate NATO too. Please, do elaborate on why my hatred for said organizations is 'wrong'.
We will send those who do not work in harmony with the European Union, especially the racist and bigoted Putin supporters, from Roman lands. We will expel the political Islamist mentality from these lands with education. Against your mentality, we will defend secular social democracy and social liberalism.


'Political Islamist mentality'

Armenia and Russia are predominately Christian nations...
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Postby Hispida » Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:15 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I am honored to be a true Republican People's Party soldier, I advise you to speak from the mouth of political Islamists. you write for ethnic nations, I don't find it right to talk about ethnic nations, I advocate unlimited land livelihood for all humanity.

1-I never support the Armenian government because they forcibly occupied the mountainous Karabakh, they take their power from the Armenian national socialism mentality. on the island of Cyprus, there was the EOKA mentality that killed the Turkish Cypriots and Greeks. The Republic of Turkey will always be on duty to protect its kin.
2-Events in Kurdistan and Turkmeneli are much more complex. I believe that Iraq should have territorial integrity. Ottoman lovers miss Kurdistan, but we will not let a second Saudi Arabia incident happen to the people of these lands.
3-The values ​​of the European Union are to provide an environment where there are no borders, where everyone can freely express their wishes.You will understand what I mean, please compare the countries of the European Union with the unjust states of the Middle East.

We will send those who do not work in harmony with the European Union, especially the racist and bigoted Putin supporters, from Roman lands. We will expel the political Islamist mentality from these lands with education. Against your mentality, we will defend secular social democracy and social liberalism.


'Political Islamist mentality'

Armenia and Russia are predominately Christian nations...

to add onto this the only predominantly muslim nation in NATO is albania and there are no majority muslim nations in the EU (yet, BiH and albania are both on the potential expansion list iirc)
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Postby Hestonworld » Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:07 am

The House of Hamid wrote:Artsakh is part of Azerbaycan, has been since the 1920s. The "Republic of Artsakh" is at best an analogue of constructs like Luhansk and Donetsk, or the Republika Srpska.

All of which might as well be recognized, including the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus mind you, if their people have the will and mettle to self-determine or have powerful allies. However, in my humble opinion Turkic nations should stop taking influences from Europe in treating their immediate surroundings as their own personal stomping ground.

Seriously, all that's missing is overseas Neo-Ottoman neocolonialism at this point.

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