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Were there to be a largescale invasion of Armenia - who would you support?

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Postby Perikuresu » Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:59 am

Mets Hayk wrote:Well...according to the Turkish government - there were no minorities in Anatolia...like - at all.

Evidence of Greek settlement? Gone.
Evidence of Armenian settlement? Gone.
Evidence of Assyrian settlement? Gone.
Centuries' worth of valuable history? Gone.

Hence why so many people - myself included - hold such great contempt for the Turkish state. This shit only got worse when Kemal came to power because he - just like the pashas - did the exact same fucking thing.

Soon it'll be the Kurd's turn
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Postby Just joking » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:19 am

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Always funny when a Turkish ultranationalist accuses others of being a Nazi and a racist lol. Like, my brother, your politics are why minority groups in Anatolia are spoken of in the past tense.

Hakinda Herseyi is literally a social democrat Kemalist, and also you don't seem to know about why there are no Greeks in Turkey. The UN made a population exchange, which the Turks didn't have a say in the Greeks left. Also, most of the ethnic who wanted to leave left voluntarily.

Never say statements this devoid of any intelligent thought ever again. You are forgetting the ethnic cleansing of multiple people groups, including the Greeks in Turkey. The population exchange was forced by multiple factors and not just by the League of Nations(not the UN). Most Greeks definitely didn't leave because they wanted to, that was the whole plan of Ataturk, the Turkification of Turkey. It meant that he had genocidal aspirations in mind and didn't stop genocides started by his Ottoman predecessors. It meant that populations native to Anatolia were to be killed or kicked out which they were. Saying the Turks had no say in this while they carried out the plans of the Ottomans & Ataturk is just naive Turkish propaganda, to say the least.

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Postby Armeattla » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:31 am

Perikuresu wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:Well...according to the Turkish government - there were no minorities in Anatolia...like - at all.

Evidence of Greek settlement? Gone.
Evidence of Armenian settlement? Gone.
Evidence of Assyrian settlement? Gone.
Centuries' worth of valuable history? Gone.

Hence why so many people - myself included - hold such great contempt for the Turkish state. This shit only got worse when Kemal came to power because he - just like the pashas - did the exact same fucking thing.

Soon it'll be the Kurd's turn

They are trying that constantly - they invaded Syria a second time these past years just for that purpose.
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:17 am

Armeattla wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I understand your Turkish phobic and anti-Semitic feelings very well, keep your really horrible neo-Nazi religious ideas to yourself. I wonder how Putin will prevent your aggressive behavior when Azerbaijan and Georgia become NATO members.

Frankly, I don't see where your accusation of anti-semitism comes from...
Israel supports Azerbaijan to counter Iran - they indirectly support the Azeri war crimes and crimes against humanity. Well, not like Israel has much qualms about crimes against humanity.
yes, I saw the scary images, but if you read my previous articles, you will see that some people in this forum are making Armenian nationalist propaganda. The products of this mentality are also found in Armenians and Turks. I blame everyone, everyone is hostile to me. When I say social democrats and the European Union, these coward right-wingers converge immediately. Armenians and Azeris are fighting as Putin wants. centre-leftists will teach them a good lesson

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Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Hakinda Herseyi is literally a social democrat Kemalist, and also you don't seem to know about why there are no Greeks in Turkey. The UN made a population exchange, which the Turks didn't have a say in the Greeks left. Also, most of the ethnic who wanted to leave left voluntarily.


I’m gonna give you a pro tip about Turkish politics; literally everyone from actual communists to actual Nazis identifies as a Kemalist. It’s like calling yourself a Titoist in former Yugoslavia, it’s a label that has lost all meaning and is just a generic thing everyone uses. Hakinda specifically is violently racist and a genocide denier, his being a “social democratic Kemalist” doesn’t prevent that.
Combined with your accusations, the biggest proof that you don't know Turkish politics, I really recommend that you raise your awareness level.
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Postby Sordhau » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:01 am

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Well...according to the Turkish government - there were no minorities in Anatolia...like - at all.

Evidence of Greek settlement? Gone.
Evidence of Armenian settlement? Gone.
Evidence of Assyrian settlement? Gone.
Centuries' worth of valuable history? Gone.

Hence why so many people - myself included - hold such great contempt for the Turkish state. This shit only got worse when Kemal came to power - because he essentially did the same exact fucking thing...

Blame the fucking league of nations for that. Remember the Turkish settlements in Greece? Bulgaria? Serbia? Albania? Exactly; The UN told the Turks to expel all Greeks to Gree Uce, and Turks to Turkey.


The UN and the LoN are two very different things, and nobody forced Turkey to do anything - nor could they have. The LoN being a functionally useless organization is precisely why it collapsed.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Always funny when a Turkish ultranationalist accuses others of being a Nazi and a racist lol. Like, my brother, your politics are why minority groups in Anatolia are spoken of in the past tense.

Hakinda Herseyi is literally a social democrat Kemalist, and also you don't seem to know about why there are no Greeks in Turkey. The UN made a population exchange, which the Turks didn't have a say in the Greeks left. Also, most of the ethnic who wanted to leave left voluntarily.


Turkish SocDems aren't the same as Euro-American SocDems. Like literally look into the early Turkish Republic: it was a one-party ethnostate where the president was basically a dictator. This is by Kemal's design. For all intents and purposes the man was basically a cryptofascist.

And no, they didn't leave "voluntarily"; that's a bunch of revisionist horseshit. They were forced out or forcefully Turkicized. I think it's like some 40% of Turks have an Armenian ancestor or something like that because all the Armenians in Eastern Anatolia were forcefully Turkicized. This was under Kemal, not the Three Pashas to be clear.

The Armenian Genocide didn't end in 1917; it ended in 1920 with the Soviet invasion of Armenia - an event which is quite literally the only reason Armenia as a country still exists to this day. Had the Soviet intervention not stopped Karabekir's advance he would've achieved his assigned war goal to "eliminate Armenia physically and politically".

Perikuresu wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:Well...according to the Turkish government - there were no minorities in Anatolia...like - at all.

Evidence of Greek settlement? Gone.
Evidence of Armenian settlement? Gone.
Evidence of Assyrian settlement? Gone.
Centuries' worth of valuable history? Gone.

Hence why so many people - myself included - hold such great contempt for the Turkish state. This shit only got worse when Kemal came to power because he - just like the pashas - did the exact same fucking thing.

Soon it'll be the Kurd's turn


They've been trying since the times of Kemal. But the Kurds did most of the heavy lifting in the genocide against the Assyrians and Armenians so they already knew Turkish tactics. Probably the only thing that saved them.
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Postby Armeattla » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:06 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Armeattla wrote:Frankly, I don't see where your accusation of anti-semitism comes from...
Israel supports Azerbaijan to counter Iran - they indirectly support the Azeri war crimes and crimes against humanity. Well, not like Israel has much qualms about crimes against humanity.
yes, I saw the scary images, but if you read my previous articles, you will see that some people in this forum are making Armenian nationalist propaganda. The products of this mentality are also found in Armenians and Turks. I blame everyone, everyone is hostile to me. When I say social democrats and the European Union, these coward right-wingers converge immediately. Armenians and Azeris are fighting as Putin wants. centre-leftists will teach them a good lesson

The EU and NATO, but especially europe as a whole are not centre left.
Germany has a very very very rare centre-left government, with one centrist/centre-right party (FDP), a centrist party (SPD) and one left-centre/centre-left party (Greens) in the coalition.
This is extremely rare even for european nations - with most liberal nationas switching from centre/centre-left social democrats to centre-right/right conservatives. Far-rightists are also present everywhere, with Germany, the Netherlands and France having sizable far-right parties - and Hungary, Poland and now even the UK having far-right governments.

You seem to be acting as if the EU was the ultmate good - even though in this case it is directly benifiting from the Azeri invasion of Armenia.
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Postby Sordhau » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:10 am

Armeattla wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:yes, I saw the scary images, but if you read my previous articles, you will see that some people in this forum are making Armenian nationalist propaganda. The products of this mentality are also found in Armenians and Turks. I blame everyone, everyone is hostile to me. When I say social democrats and the European Union, these coward right-wingers converge immediately. Armenians and Azeris are fighting as Putin wants. centre-leftists will teach them a good lesson

The EU and NATO, but especially europe as a whole are not centre left.
Germany has a very very very rare centre-left government, with one centrist/centre-right party (FDP), a centrist party (SPD) and one left-centre/centre-left party (Greens) in the coalition.
This is extremely rare even for european nations - with most liberal nationas switching from centre/centre-left social democrats to centre-right/right conservatives. Far-rightists are also present everywhere, with Germany, the Netherlands and France having sizable far-right parties - and Hungary, Poland and now even the UK having far-right governments.

You seem to be acting as if the EU was the ultmate good - even though in this case it is directly benifiting from the Azeri invasion of Armenia.


Hakinda's conceptualization of the EU seems to be more in line with a countryball comic than reality.
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Postby Perikuresu » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:23 am

Sordhau wrote:Hakinda's conceptualization of the EU seems to be more in line with a countryball comic than reality.

At least when I see countryball comics, I actually want to read them, not have them randomly shoved down my throat
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Postby Vikanias » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:42 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ...

I'm a criminal because I love my country? I'm a criminal because I dare to speak out against Armenophobia and genocide? I'm a criminal because I fucking hate the west - and wish that they'd stay out of the Caucasus? Speaking my fucking mind makes me a criminal? And what the fuck does Israel have to do with anything - besides their funding of the Azeri government's campaign to cleanse the lands of any and all Armenians?
I understand your Turkish phobic and anti-Semitic feelings very well, keep your really horrible neo-Nazi religious ideas to yourself. I wonder how Putin will prevent your aggressive behavior when Azerbaijan and Georgia become NATO members.


Average Azeri-Euro anti-American nationalist whateverrhefuck moment.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:55 am

Armeattla wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:yes, I saw the scary images, but if you read my previous articles, you will see that some people in this forum are making Armenian nationalist propaganda. The products of this mentality are also found in Armenians and Turks. I blame everyone, everyone is hostile to me. When I say social democrats and the European Union, these coward right-wingers converge immediately. Armenians and Azeris are fighting as Putin wants. centre-leftists will teach them a good lesson

The EU and NATO, but especially europe as a whole are not centre left.
Germany has a very very very rare centre-left government, with one centrist/centre-right party (FDP), a centrist party (SPD) and one left-centre/centre-left party (Greens) in the coalition.
This is extremely rare even for european nations - with most liberal nationas switching from centre/centre-left social democrats to centre-right/right conservatives. Far-rightists are also present everywhere, with Germany, the Netherlands and France having sizable far-right parties - and Hungary, Poland and now even the UK having far-right governments.

You seem to be acting as if the EU was the ultmate good - even though in this case it is directly benifiting from the Azeri invasion of Armenia.
Ilham Aliyev is not an innocent person, his attacking the lands of Armenia completely benefits Putin and his gang.just like the armenian government attacked azerbaijan territory. azerbaijan and armenia seem eager to be putin's puppet state, that's what I'm trying to explain. both sides do not like social democrats like me and I know that I am right, the Caucasian lands will not be the playground of the aggressive Putin.
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Postby Republic Of Ludwigsburg » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:56 am

Sordhau wrote:
Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Blame the fucking league of nations for that. Remember the Turkish settlements in Greece? Bulgaria? Serbia? Albania? Exactly; The UN told the Turks to expel all Greeks to Gree Uce, and Turks to Turkey.


The UN and the LoN are two very different things, and nobody forced Turkey to do anything - nor could they have. The LoN being a functionally useless organization is precisely why it collapsed.

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Hakinda Herseyi is literally a social democrat Kemalist, and also you don't seem to know about why there are no Greeks in Turkey. The UN made a population exchange, which the Turks didn't have a say in the Greeks left. Also, most of the ethnic who wanted to leave left voluntarily.


Turkish SocDems aren't the same as Euro-American SocDems. Like literally look into the early Turkish Republic: it was a one-party ethnostate where the president was basically a dictator. This is by Kemal's design. For all intents and purposes the man was basically a cryptofascist.

And no, they didn't leave "voluntarily"; that's a bunch of revisionist horseshit. They were forced out or forcefully Turkicized. I think it's like some 40% of Turks have an Armenian ancestor or something like that because all the Armenians in Eastern Anatolia were forcefully Turkicized. This was under Kemal, not the Three Pashas to be clear.

The Armenian Genocide didn't end in 1917; it ended in 1920 with the Soviet invasion of Armenia - an event which is quite literally the only reason Armenia as a country still exists to this day. Had the Soviet intervention not stopped Karabekir's advance he would've achieved his assigned war goal to "eliminate Armenia physically and politically".

Perikuresu wrote:Soon it'll be the Kurd's turn


They've been trying since the times of Kemal. But the Kurds did most of the heavy lifting in the genocide against the Assyrians and Armenians so they already knew Turkish tactics. Probably the only thing that saved them.

This just shows how less you know about Kemalism and Turkey.
1. That was just a mistake by me because I mixed up the two. Also, the League of Nations DID mandate this, after a Greek had submitted a proposal to them which was ratified in Lausanne. Read the contents here.
2. This is literally the most stupid response about Turkish politics I have ever heard:
a) It was not an ethnostate, Kemal was actually respecting towards the Kurds and HE LITERALLY RECOGNIZED THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE + He was one the first nation to recognize woman's rights + Kemal literally said that "I am only authoritarian so that my successors are democratic".
3. Some left voluntarily, some left forcefully due to the Lausanne treaty, but most were killed under the 3 pashas.
4. What bullshit is this and where is the source? By the way, don't forget how Stalin shipped the Armenians among other groups to Siberia, Kazakhstan etc.
5. No, Kemal was the one who tolerated the Kurds and then the Islamists began to commit the horrible acts.
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Postby The North Polish Union » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:59 am

I'm pretty sure that it would be possible to create an algorithm to procedurally generate Hakinda posts that would be indistinguishable from the real item.
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Postby Sordhau » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:09 am

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:1. That was just a mistake by me because I mixed up the two. Also, the League of Nations DID mandate this, after a Greek had submitted a proposal to them which was ratified in Lausanne. Read the contents here.


Irrelevant. The LoN had no means to enforce this.

2. This is literally the most stupid response about Turkish politics I have ever heard:
a) It was not an ethnostate, Kemal was actually respecting towards the Kurds and HE LITERALLY RECOGNIZED THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE + He was one the first nation to recognize woman's rights + Kemal literally said that "I am only authoritarian so that my successors are democratic".


The Kemalists actively exterminated and persecuted non-Turkish minorities. Literally read about the Turkish War of Independence, holy shit.

Funny how his successors didn't turn out to be very democratic lmao.

3. Some left voluntarily, some left forcefully due to the Lausanne treaty, but most were killed under the 3 pashas.


Most were forced out or killed and did not leave of their own volition. You are deliberately misrepresenting the facts to deny genocide.

4. What bullshit is this and where is the source? By the way, don't forget how Stalin shipped the Armenians among other groups to Siberia, Kazakhstan etc.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide#Turkish_War_of_Independence

5. No, Kemal was the one who tolerated the Kurds and then the Islamists began to commit the horrible acts.


Kemal was a Turkish Mussolini except smarter and more charismatic. Bastard's drowning in a poll of piss in Hell as we speak; good riddance.

You are genocide denier. Stay the fuck away from me.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:43 am

The North Polish Union wrote:I'm pretty sure that it would be possible to create an algorithm to procedurally generate Hakinda posts that would be indistinguishable from the real item.

You could just make one that calls Greeks, Kurds, Arabs, and Armenians nazis while praising the EU for being the EU and just copy past that forever.

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Postby Republic Of Ludwigsburg » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:49 am

Sordhau wrote:
Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:1. That was just a mistake by me because I mixed up the two. Also, the League of Nations DID mandate this, after a Greek had submitted a proposal to them which was ratified in Lausanne. Read the contents here.


Irrelevant. The LoN had no means to enforce this.

2. This is literally the most stupid response about Turkish politics I have ever heard:
a) It was not an ethnostate, Kemal was actually respecting towards the Kurds and HE LITERALLY RECOGNIZED THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE + He was one the first nation to recognize woman's rights + Kemal literally said that "I am only authoritarian so that my successors are democratic".


The Kemalists actively exterminated and persecuted non-Turkish minorities. Literally read about the Turkish War of Independence, holy shit.

Funny how his successors didn't turn out to be very democratic lmao.

3. Some left voluntarily, some left forcefully due to the Lausanne treaty, but most were killed under the 3 pashas.


Most were forced out or killed and did not leave of their own volition. You are deliberately misrepresenting the facts to deny genocide.

4. What bullshit is this and where is the source? By the way, don't forget how Stalin shipped the Armenians among other groups to Siberia, Kazakhstan etc.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide#Turkish_War_of_Independence

5. No, Kemal was the one who tolerated the Kurds and then the Islamists began to commit the horrible acts.


Kemal was a Turkish Mussolini except smarter and more charismatic. Bastard's drowning in a poll of piss in Hell as we speak; good riddance.

You are genocide denier. Stay the fuck away from me.

1. Doesn't matter; Greece and Turkey had an agreement and did it.
2. I know way more shit than you about the Turkish War of Independence. The reason that they invaded Armenia and Kurdistan was because, a) Armenia was going to take all of Eastern Anatolia and Kurdistan would take all of Southern Anatolia. Let's say that your beloved Armenia was occupied in the North by Georgia (hypothetical), in the West by Turkey and East by Azerbaijan and only being left with Yerevan. Of course Armenia would fight. That's what happened to Turkey.
3. Those were former CUP members aka the fucking Pashas, AND while Kemal was part of the TUH, he did not engage in genocidal activities.
4. That is because of corrupt Turkish islamists, and that is completely irrelevant to the debate.
5. The Armenian genocide did fucking happen, but Ataturk was at Gallipoli during the time. Ataturk did not force his officers to kill anyone.
6. Again, only a few members of the Nationalist movement supported this and Ataturk had nothing to do with it.
7. How exactly is he a Turkish Mussolini? Also, Ataturk was probably the best leader for Turkish women, he was the first European nation to give them proper rights.
8. Yeah now this is just fucking lies.
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Postby Nitrana » Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:35 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ...

I'm a criminal because I love my country? I'm a criminal because I dare to speak out against Armenophobia and genocide? I'm a criminal because I fucking hate the west - and wish that they'd stay out of the Caucasus? Speaking my fucking mind makes me a criminal? And what the fuck does Israel have to do with anything - besides their funding of the Azeri government's campaign to cleanse the lands of any and all Armenians?
I understand your Turkish phobic and anti-Semitic feelings very well, keep your really horrible neo-Nazi religious ideas to yourself. I wonder how Putin will prevent your aggressive behavior when Azerbaijan and Georgia become NATO members.

I don’t see him being anti-Semitic in any post. Mind you, not supporting Israel in the conflict OFN Palestine isn’t anti-Semitism. Please do me the favor and show me on what facts is your accusation made.

Also, I think it’s just me, or is there an inconsistency in your beliefs? One time you’re saying that “young Armenians and Azerbaijanis will establish democracy”, the next time you are advocating for extermination of Armenians (as Mets said). That ain’t democracy pal.
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Postby Duvniask » Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:56 am

The North Polish Union wrote:I'm pretty sure that it would be possible to create an algorithm to procedurally generate Hakinda posts that would be indistinguishable from the real item.

-Make sure to suck EU dick
-Make sure to praise social democracy
-Optionally praise Kemal and Kemalism
-Call people who don't agree racists, fascists, right-wingers, Putin puppets, homophobes or anti-semites
-Be virulently anti-American, yet pro NATO
-Support territorial integrity, unless it's territory populated by Turkic peoples
-Support independence of every single Turkic ethnic group + lay out some really idiotic scheme where the independence of said group will somehow be a "shield of Europe" or some shit.
-Deny the Armenian genocide covertly by pretending there isn't a historical consensus
-Post some retarded map made in MS Paint
-Post some random flag
-Occasionally make weird, out of place posts about porn, alcohol and dislike of religion

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:29 am

Nitrana wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I understand your Turkish phobic and anti-Semitic feelings very well, keep your really horrible neo-Nazi religious ideas to yourself. I wonder how Putin will prevent your aggressive behavior when Azerbaijan and Georgia become NATO members.

I don’t see him being anti-Semitic in any post. Mind you, not supporting Israel in the conflict OFN Palestine isn’t anti-Semitism. Please do me the favor and show me on what facts is your accusation made.

Also, I think it’s just me, or is there an inconsistency in your beliefs? One time you’re saying that “young Armenians and Azerbaijanis will establish democracy”, the next time you are advocating for extermination of Armenians (as Mets said). That ain’t democracy pal.
I did not mention the extermination of the Armenian people, I suggest you keep your accusations to yourself. Mets Hayk himself said, that he is a supporter of Putin. People like Mets Hayk only support Armenia with racist feelings, I defend the justice of humanity. That's the difference between us and him. I am against the dictator named Ilham Aliyev, I am also against the neo-Nazis who practice Armenian nationalism.

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The North Polish Union wrote:I'm pretty sure that it would be possible to create an algorithm to procedurally generate Hakinda posts that would be indistinguishable from the real item.

-Make sure to suck EU dick
-Make sure to praise social democracy
-Optionally praise Kemal and Kemalism
-Call people who don't agree racists, fascists, right-wingers, Putin puppets, homophobes or anti-semites
-Be virulently anti-American, yet pro NATO
-Support territorial integrity, unless it's territory populated by Turkic peoples
-Support independence of every single Turkic ethnic group + lay out some really idiotic scheme where the independence of said group will somehow be a "shield of Europe" or some shit.
-Deny the Armenian genocide covertly by pretending there isn't a historical consensus
-Post some retarded map made in MS Paint
-Post some random flag
-Occasionally make weird, out of place posts about porn, alcohol and dislike of religion

What else?
First, pay attention to the words you use. I think I see it as "blasphemy" (maybe because of the Turkish translation) If you really used swearing, didn't your parents teach you to speak properly ? I think you should get back on topic instead of attacking me. What you wrote seems very off-topic.
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Postby Mets Hayk » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:33 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Nitrana wrote:I don’t see him being anti-Semitic in any post. Mind you, not supporting Israel in the conflict OFN Palestine isn’t anti-Semitism. Please do me the favor and show me on what facts is your accusation made.

Also, I think it’s just me, or is there an inconsistency in your beliefs? One time you’re saying that “young Armenians and Azerbaijanis will establish democracy”, the next time you are advocating for extermination of Armenians (as Mets said). That ain’t democracy pal.
I did not mention the extermination of the Armenian people, I suggest you keep your accusations to yourself. Mets Hayk himself said, that he is a supporter of Putin. People like Mets Hayk only support Armenia with racist feelings, I defend the justice of humanity. That's the difference between us and him. I am against the dictator named Ilham Aliyev, I am also against the neo-Nazis who practice Armenian nationalism.

Duvniask wrote:-Make sure to suck EU dick
-Make sure to praise social democracy
-Optionally praise Kemal and Kemalism
-Call people who don't agree racists, fascists, right-wingers, Putin puppets, homophobes or anti-semites
-Be virulently anti-American, yet pro NATO
-Support territorial integrity, unless it's territory populated by Turkic peoples
-Support independence of every single Turkic ethnic group + lay out some really idiotic scheme where the independence of said group will somehow be a "shield of Europe" or some shit.
-Deny the Armenian genocide covertly by pretending there isn't a historical consensus
-Post some retarded map made in MS Paint
-Post some random flag
-Occasionally make weird, out of place posts about porn, alcohol and dislike of religion

What else?
First, pay attention to the words you use. I think I see it as "blasphemy" (maybe because of the Turkish translation) If you really used swearing, didn't your parents teach you to speak properly ? I think you should get back on topic instead of attacking me. What you wrote seems very off-topic.


Here we go...back to slandering me as a neo-Nazi without the slightest bit of evidence.
WHAT racist feelings, Hakinda? Where - on this thread - have I said anything racist?

EDIT: Oh, and you literally called for the eradication of my culture on multiple occasions...
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Postby Mets Hayk » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:35 am

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:40 am

Sordhau wrote:
Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:1. That was just a mistake by me because I mixed up the two. Also, the League of Nations DID mandate this, after a Greek had submitted a proposal to them which was ratified in Lausanne. Read the contents here.

Kemal was a Turkish Mussolini except smarter and more charismatic. Bastard's drowning in a poll of piss in Hell as we speak; good riddance.

You are genocide denier. Stay the fuck away from me.
The common point of the enemies of modernity is to destroy Atatürk and his values. It is the common point of political Islam and imperialists. I cut off communication with the enemies of Atatürk in my own country and try to stay away because they are uneducated people. I return your bad words to you exactly. I will be with science forever. social democrat kemalists will teach all the uneducated enemies of Atatürk.
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Postby Mets Hayk » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:43 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Kemal was a Turkish Mussolini except smarter and more charismatic. Bastard's drowning in a poll of piss in Hell as we speak; good riddance.

You are genocide denier. Stay the fuck away from me.
The common point of the enemies of modernity is to destroy Atatürk and his values. It is the common point of political Islam and imperialists. I cut off communication with the enemies of Atatürk in my own country and try to stay away because they are uneducated people. I return your bad words to you exactly. I will be with science forever. social democrat kemalists will teach all the uneducated enemies of Atatürk.


Ah yes, the 'uneducated enemies of Kemal'...like those thousands of Armenian women and children his forces mercilessly murdered? Or what about those Greeks - most of which were innocent civilians - he forced out of his country?
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A greater fatherland.
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Postby Nitrana » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:45 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Nitrana wrote:I don’t see him being anti-Semitic in any post. Mind you, not supporting Israel in the conflict OFN Palestine isn’t anti-Semitism. Please do me the favor and show me on what facts is your accusation made.

Also, I think it’s just me, or is there an inconsistency in your beliefs? One time you’re saying that “young Armenians and Azerbaijanis will establish democracy”, the next time you are advocating for extermination of Armenians (as Mets said). That ain’t democracy pal.
I did not mention the extermination of the Armenian people, I suggest you keep your accusations to yourself. Mets Hayk himself said, that he is a supporter of Putin. People like Mets Hayk only support Armenia with racist feelings, I defend the justice of humanity. That's the difference between us and him. I am against the dictator named Ilham Aliyev, I am also against the neo-Nazis who practice Armenian nationalism.

Duvniask wrote:-Make sure to suck EU dick
-Make sure to praise social democracy
-Optionally praise Kemal and Kemalism
-Call people who don't agree racists, fascists, right-wingers, Putin puppets, homophobes or anti-semites
-Be virulently anti-American, yet pro NATO
-Support territorial integrity, unless it's territory populated by Turkic peoples
-Support independence of every single Turkic ethnic group + lay out some really idiotic scheme where the independence of said group will somehow be a "shield of Europe" or some shit.
-Deny the Armenian genocide covertly by pretending there isn't a historical consensus
-Post some retarded map made in MS Paint
-Post some random flag
-Occasionally make weird, out of place posts about porn, alcohol and dislike of religion

What else?
First, pay attention to the words you use. I think I see it as "blasphemy" (maybe because of the Turkish translation) If you really used swearing, didn't your parents teach you to speak properly ? I think you should get back on topic instead of attacking me. What you wrote seems very off-topic.

Once again, it ain’t democracy you’re promoting by this. Even if he said that, (I gotta press X to doubt) he should be able to express his ideas freely. When the right is bad, who is the opposition to the left? And defending “The Justice of humanity” is denying the Armenian genocide? Avoiding answering to questions which are quite serious counter arguments to your racism accusing?
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Postby Sordhau » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:46 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:The common point of the enemies of modernity is to destroy Atatürk and his values. It is the common point of political Islam and imperialists. I cut off communication with the enemies of Atatürk in my own country and try to stay away because they are uneducated people. I return your bad words to you exactly. I will be with science forever. social democrat kemalists will teach all the uneducated enemies of Atatürk.


Ah yes, the 'uneducated enemies of Kemal'...like those thousands of Armenian women and children his forces mercilessly murdered? Or what about those Greeks - most of which were innocent civilians - he forced out of his country?


Obviously no such things happened, friend. You imagined them all. Please do not commit this wrongthink against Big Turk again. We all love Big Turk here. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
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Postby Imperial Samiller » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:56 am

Im surprised that Artsakh has not been recognized yet.

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