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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:30 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:It's totally a laughing matter, because what you are saying is incredibly disconnected from reality.

So you don't have any explanation for why anti-homeless laws are supposedly to "protect" people.

Saying weed is okay is just trying to pretend that it's okay to do drugs. It's not. Drugs kill you. If murder is illegal and kills you, recreational drugs should be illegal, as it kills you

As we all know, if you eat a weed brownie, you'll die in seven days.
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:31 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:The person lighting up the weed it the victim and the aggressor. They are letting weed control their life.

...Do you think weed and crystal meth are the same fucking thing or something? Good lord, I don't even think D.A.R.E. got this hysterical about marijuana.

Weed is just the predecessor of meth. Once your weed kick goes away, you're on to crystal meth.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:33 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:That is not the definition of a Victim.

Then what is your definition?

I don't go by my own definition. I go by the LEGAL definition.

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/victim
Victim means (A) any person who sustained any part of the actual loss determined under subsection (b)(1); or (B) any individual who sustained bodily injury as a result of the offense
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Postby The Party of Upwards » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:33 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:what

"gAtEwAy dRuG" lol
Also, harm others? What?
And it's real cute of you to snip out the part about anti-homeless laws, and the part about how cops aren't actually obligated to protect people.

Suprise! Weed is bad for your health! And it is a gateway drug. It's not a laughing matter. It harms others because you'll steal and push people away for another kick.

Thanks for calling me cute :blush:
You've cut out plenty of my reasoning too.

Weed is bad, but hyper-processed GMO sludge, 3d-printed bug cells and toxic vaccines are ok?

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Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:33 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Saying weed is okay is just trying to pretend that it's okay to do drugs. It's not. Drugs kill you. If murder is illegal and kills you, recreational drugs should be illegal, as it kills you

As we all know, if you eat a weed brownie, you'll die in seven days.

One cigarette doesn't immediately kill you, just like weed doesn't immediately kill you, but it definitely harms you (such as dropping IQ)
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:34 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:...Do you think weed and crystal meth are the same fucking thing or something? Good lord, I don't even think D.A.R.E. got this hysterical about marijuana.

Weed is just the predecessor of meth. Once your weed kick goes away, you're on to crystal meth.

Alright, this gives it away. You're just yanking our chains, aren'tcha.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:34 pm

The Party of Upwards wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Suprise! Weed is bad for your health! And it is a gateway drug. It's not a laughing matter. It harms others because you'll steal and push people away for another kick.

Thanks for calling me cute :blush:
You've cut out plenty of my reasoning too.

Weed is bad, but hyper-processed GMO sludge, 3d-printed bug cells and toxic vaccines are ok?

actually those are all ok
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:35 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Then what is your definition?

I don't go by my own definition. I go by the LEGAL definition.

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/victim
Victim means (A) any person who sustained any part of the actual loss determined under subsection (b)(1); or (B) any individual who sustained bodily injury as a result of the offense

Any individual who sustained bodily injury... Weed harms your body
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:35 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Weed is just the predecessor of meth. Once your weed kick goes away, you're on to crystal meth.

Alright, this gives it away. You're just yanking our chains, aren'tcha.

Not a chance, I'm just saying that weed is not good for you!
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Postby Qoyunlu » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:36 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Alright, this gives it away. You're just yanking our chains, aren'tcha.

Not a chance, I'm just saying that weed is not good for you!

Neither is alcohol
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:36 pm

The Party of Upwards wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Suprise! Weed is bad for your health! And it is a gateway drug. It's not a laughing matter. It harms others because you'll steal and push people away for another kick.

Thanks for calling me cute :blush:
You've cut out plenty of my reasoning too.

Weed is bad, but hyper-processed GMO sludge, 3d-printed bug cells and toxic vaccines are ok?

Vaccines are actually good for you! They are scientifically proven to be better than not being vaccinated.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:36 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:As we all know, if you eat a weed brownie, you'll die in seven days.

One cigarette doesn't immediately kill you, just like weed doesn't immediately kill you, but it definitely harms you (such as dropping IQ)

Is that why one of my best friends from HS who do smoke weed recreationally work on Wind Turbines and other heavily mechanical things, even after attending MIT and graduating Summa Cum Laude?

Gee, they must really have had their brain fucked up...
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:37 pm

Qoyunlu wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Not a chance, I'm just saying that weed is not good for you!

Neither is alcohol

I'm against that too. Alcohol should also be banned. Drunkness never brings a positive
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Postby The Party of Upwards » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:39 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Qoyunlu wrote:Neither is alcohol

I'm against that too. Alcohol should also be banned. Drunkness never brings a positive

How do you excuse the fact that the police can magdump somebody for looking at them wrong, but citizen involved shootings are scrutinized to high heaven?

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Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:39 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Floofybit wrote:One cigarette doesn't immediately kill you, just like weed doesn't immediately kill you, but it definitely harms you (such as dropping IQ)

Is that why one of my best friends from HS who do smoke weed recreationally work on Wind Turbines and other heavily mechanical things, even after attending MIT and graduating Summa Cum Laude?

Gee, they must really have had their brain fucked up...

"Who was ever harmed by smoking a little weed? Right? Wrong. Good research shows that people who start smoking marijuana, or cannabis, regularly when they are in their teens and continue into their twenties have a later permanent decrease in IQ. The decrease does not seem to be reversible even after marijuana use is stopped."
This report shows that marijuana drops IQ. Rehabilitation isn't gonna cut it. The harm is hard to reverse. The best medicine is prevention
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:41 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:I don't go by my own definition. I go by the LEGAL definition.

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/victim

Any individual who sustained bodily injury... Weed harms your body

Bodily Injury is defined as "(5) the term “bodily injury” means— (A) a cut, abrasion, bruise, burn, or disfigurement; (B) physical pain; (C) illness; (D) impairment of a function of a bodily member, organ, or mental faculty; or (E) any other injury to the body, no matter how temporary;"

If you want to get technical, Alcohol, Cigarettes, and caffeine do these things. Yet all three of those are legal.
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Postby Ainland » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:41 pm

Generally speaking I have a great deal of respect for the police. They do a very difficult job, often putting themselves in harm's way, to uphold the law and keep us safe. There are countless examples of outstanding service and I am in no doubt that the majority of police officers in my country are honourable people.

That said, I am aware of many cases of corruption and bad behaviour. In the UK, the police are more often (not always) well mannered and treat people as humans. I think this is important. Police should try to retain a sense of impartiality and detachment from the situation. It's not personal, you're not the judge and jury, and nobody likes being arrested. These are important things to remember.

They're heroes, for sure. But I think they're more effective when they retain a sense of impartiality and display common human decency.

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Postby Qoyunlu » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:41 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Qoyunlu wrote:Neither is alcohol

I'm against that too. Alcohol should also be banned. Drunkness never brings a positive

You know what also brings no good? Dissolving a $250 billion industry in the US, and getting rid of 4 million jobs, and incriminating potentially millions for minor drug and in this case alcohol related offenses
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Postby The Party of Upwards » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:42 pm

The Party of Upwards wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I'm against that too. Alcohol should also be banned. Drunkness never brings a positive

How do you excuse the fact that the police can magdump somebody for looking at them wrong, but citizen involved shootings are scrutinized to high heaven?

And that police only face scrutiny when they shoot a “minority.” They summarily execute whites every day without a hitch.

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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:42 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:Is that why one of my best friends from HS who do smoke weed recreationally work on Wind Turbines and other heavily mechanical things, even after attending MIT and graduating Summa Cum Laude?

Gee, they must really have had their brain fucked up...

"Who was ever harmed by smoking a little weed? Right? Wrong. Good research shows that people who start smoking marijuana, or cannabis, regularly when they are in their teens and continue into their twenties have a later permanent decrease in IQ. The decrease does not seem to be reversible even after marijuana use is stopped."
This report shows that marijuana drops IQ. Rehabilitation isn't gonna cut it. The harm is hard to reverse. The best medicine is prevention

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well this report says i'm right and you're wrong so
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:42 pm

The Party of Upwards wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I'm against that too. Alcohol should also be banned. Drunkness never brings a positive

How do you excuse the fact that the police can magdump somebody for looking at them wrong, but citizen involved shootings are scrutinized to high heaven?

Why did you quote alcohol? This has nothing to do with alcohol.
Anyways, police canNOT magdump someone. What they are doing is illegal and they will be detained. Plus, when one policeman does something, it doesn't mean all police do that.
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:43 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Any individual who sustained bodily injury... Weed harms your body

Bodily Injury is defined as "(5) the term “bodily injury” means— (A) a cut, abrasion, bruise, burn, or disfigurement; (B) physical pain; (C) illness; (D) impairment of a function of a bodily member, organ, or mental faculty; or (E) any other injury to the body, no matter how temporary;"

If you want to get technical, Alcohol, Cigarettes, and caffeine do these things. Yet all three of those are legal.

And they should be illegal. Along with weed.
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Fruit addiction terrorises Floofs, no known cure has been found | After various petitions, the woman arrested for having "too many favourite colours" due to be released in 2034, has now been let free. "I'll be more decisive next time," she stated | Stash of tangerine juice found in high-ranking government official's home in Peachton, accused of "not sharing with the rest of us" | Peachton man identifies as a pomelo, watch his story
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Postby Qoyunlu » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:43 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:Bodily Injury is defined as "(5) the term “bodily injury” means— (A) a cut, abrasion, bruise, burn, or disfigurement; (B) physical pain; (C) illness; (D) impairment of a function of a bodily member, organ, or mental faculty; or (E) any other injury to the body, no matter how temporary;"

If you want to get technical, Alcohol, Cigarettes, and caffeine do these things. Yet all three of those are legal.

And they should be illegal. Along with weed.

So just ban everything that can cause harm? Water intoxication can be acutely lethal, better ban that
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:44 pm

Qoyunlu wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I'm against that too. Alcohol should also be banned. Drunkness never brings a positive

You know what also brings no good? Dissolving a $250 billion industry in the US, and getting rid of 4 million jobs, and incriminating potentially millions for minor drug and in this case alcohol related offenses

Who cares about the money? We will bring on a lot more money if people stop dying from recreational drugs and can actually help society.
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Fruit addiction terrorises Floofs, no known cure has been found | After various petitions, the woman arrested for having "too many favourite colours" due to be released in 2034, has now been let free. "I'll be more decisive next time," she stated | Stash of tangerine juice found in high-ranking government official's home in Peachton, accused of "not sharing with the rest of us" | Peachton man identifies as a pomelo, watch his story
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Postby The Party of Upwards » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:45 pm

Floofybit wrote:
The Party of Upwards wrote:How do you excuse the fact that the police can magdump somebody for looking at them wrong, but citizen involved shootings are scrutinized to high heaven?

Why did you quote alcohol? This has nothing to do with alcohol.
Anyways, police canNOT magdump someone. What they are doing is illegal and they will be detained. Plus, when one policeman does something, it doesn't mean all police do that.

I’ve seen videos of it. Even if you are facing a deranged murderer, if you fire one shot “too many,” it’s a life in prison. I saw a video of a store clerk shooting an armed robber once more than necessary, he went to prison for life.

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