Police: Heroes or Villains?

[Ifreann]

Theft is an economic crime, people commit economic crimes for economic reasons. If someone needs money, and can get it from a bank without hurting anyone, then I'm fine with that person getting away with their crime.

They're not stealing from the bank though, they're stealing from the people using the bank to store their money.

If someone robs your local bank, that money doesn't get deducted from your account. The bank loses money, not you. Unless the robbers also demand your wallet.

[Floofybit]

They're not stealing from the bank though, they're stealing from the people using the bank to store their money.

If someone robs your local bank, that money doesn't get deducted from your account. The bank loses money, not you. Unless the robbers also demand your wallet.

Did you ever hear about the bank robbery where a man had a bomb strapped to his chest? You know, the very popular case? If the police hadn't stepped in, more money would be gone, and there would likely be more fatalities than one

[Ifreann]

If someone robs your local bank, that money doesn't get deducted from your account. The bank loses money, not you. Unless the robbers also demand your wallet.

Did you ever hear about the bank robbery where a man had a bomb strapped to his chest? You know, the very popular case? If the police hadn't stepped in, more money would be gone, and there would likely be more fatalities than one

I am not familiar with the case you describe.

[Floofybit]

Did you ever hear about the bank robbery where a man had a bomb strapped to his chest? You know, the very popular case? If the police hadn't stepped in, more money would be gone, and there would likely be more fatalities than one

I am not familiar with the case you describe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Wells

[Ifreann]

I am not familiar with the case you describe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Wells

And what is the point you are making by reference to this crime?

[Floofybit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Wells

And what is the point you are making by reference to this crime?

If we didn't have a competent police force, more money would be stolen, and more people could have died

[Dumb Ideologies]

Show me on the doll where this Rob Banks fella hurt you.

[Ifreann]

And what is the point you are making by reference to this crime?

If we didn't have a competent police force, more money would be stolen, and more people could have died

If you had a competent police force then Brian Wells might have lived.

[Floofybit]

If we didn't have a competent police force, more money would be stolen, and more people could have died

If you had a competent police force then Brian Wells might have lived.

Hey, this was the bomb squad's fault. It could also very well been Brian Wells who was in on it

[Ifreann]

If you had a competent police force then Brian Wells might have lived.

Hey, this was the bomb squad's fault.

Bomb squad are cops too.

[Floofybit]

Hey, this was the bomb squad's fault.

Bomb squad are cops too.

Maybe if there was more funding, the bomb squad could have saved him.

Also, this argument that police don't do every exact thing you want is stupid. It's not rational to say, defund the police because they're not perfect, just like it's irrational to say, let's ban you cause you don't have a commendation

[Ifreann]

Bomb squad are cops too.

Maybe if there was more funding, the bomb squad could have saved him.

Also, this argument that police don't do every exact thing you want is stupid. It's not rational to say, defund the police because they're not perfect, just like it's irrational to say, let's ban you cause you don't have a commendation

Even if the police were perfect, I would still want to abolish them.

[Floofybit]

Maybe if there was more funding, the bomb squad could have saved him.

Also, this argument that police don't do every exact thing you want is stupid. It's not rational to say, defund the police because they're not perfect, just like it's irrational to say, let's ban you cause you don't have a commendation

Even if the police were perfect, I would still want to abolish them.

Why?

[American Legionaries]

Bomb squad are cops too.

Maybe if there was more funding, the bomb squad could have saved him.

Also, this argument that police don't do every exact thing you want is stupid. It's not rational to say, defund the police because they're not perfect, just like it's irrational to say, let's ban you cause you don't have a commendation

The only thing I want the police to do is to cease existing.

[Floofybit]

Maybe if there was more funding, the bomb squad could have saved him.

Also, this argument that police don't do every exact thing you want is stupid. It's not rational to say, defund the police because they're not perfect, just like it's irrational to say, let's ban you cause you don't have a commendation

The only thing I want the police to do is to cease existing.

In what ways?

[American Legionaries]

The only thing I want the police to do is to cease existing.

In what ways?

There's really only one way for an organization to cease existing...

[Floofybit]

In what ways?

There's really only one way for an organization to cease existing...

I can think of many.

[American Legionaries]

There's really only one way for an organization to cease existing...

I can think of many.

Well the most efficient would be all of the cops just up and quit, but that's unlikely to occur.

[Floofybit]

I can think of many.

Well the most efficient would be all of ghe cops just up and quit, but that's unlikely to occur.

If they all quit, the world would fall in havoc but since you think some crimes should be legal, that's apparently a good thing.

[The Cheltonian Republic]

Who's to stop someone for stealing your belongings and burning down your house with no consequences?

Me.

What if you were an orphan paralysed from the waist down? And not everyone is so rich they can pay an army of bodyguards to protect their widow,
sometimes not even if they spend all their inheritance on it and leave the poor lady nothing else.

[American Legionaries]

Well the most efficient would be all of ghe cops just up and quit, but that's unlikely to occur.

If they all quit, the world would fall in havoc but since you think some crimes should be legal, that's apparently a good thing.

It wouldn't, your continued insistence that everyone is a vile murderer waiting to kill if only the police would get out of the way is absurd. Having said that. Yes, I do think many crimes are wrongfully stigmatized.

[American Legionaries]

Me.

What if you were an orphan paralysed from the waist down? And not everyone is so rich they can pay an army of bodyguards to protect their widow,
sometimes not even if they spend all their inheritance on it and leave the poor lady nothing else.

If I were an orphan paralyzed from the waist down, I would shoot the attacker while sitting in a wheelchair and lamenting the fact I had never known my parents.

[The Cheltonian Republic]

It wouldn't, your continued insistence that everyone is a vile murderer waiting to kill if only the police would get out of the way is absurd

It only takes one murderer to murder someone. Also, burglaries are less common in areas that spend more on the police.
Most house burglaries are committed by a minority of people who commonly commit more than one burglary in their lifetime.
If they’re in prison they can’t burgle houses.

Do you want a random stranger to break into your home at the dead of night and steal whatever device your accessing the internet with?


What if you were a little old lady, do you really think there are no advantages in age and sex when it comes to average strength?

If I were an orphan paralyzed from the waist down, I would shoot the attacker while sitting in a wheelchair and lamenting the fact I had never known my parents.

Based! But what if there are ten of them all armed.

And even in one major city there are more than ten people who would be prepared to burgle houses with children inside.

[Ifreann]

Even if the police were perfect, I would still want to abolish them.

Why?

Because policing doesn't serve the public good. They don't keep us safe, they keep us in line.

[The Cheltonian Republic]

Why?

Because policing doesn't serve the public good. They don't keep us safe, they keep us in line.

They also keep in line muggers, home invaders, benefit cheats and the black cab rapist.

All examples of people actually arrested by the police.