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Floofybit
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:09 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Weed and alcohol are FAR more dangerous. How about we ban those first and then you can talk to me about sugar

Or we could ban none of them.
Also, hell, weed's probably less dangerous than sugar from my perspective.
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Some studies suggest that cannabis smoke contains carcinogens, or that recreational marijuana use increases the risk of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders and leads around 10% of regular users to addiction. And even some staunch supporters of legalization are concerned about the impact of marijuana on young, developing brains.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:10 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Or we could ban none of them.
Also, hell, weed's probably less dangerous than sugar from my perspective.
signed, a diabetic

Some studies suggest that cannabis smoke contains carcinogens, or that recreational marijuana use increases the risk of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders and leads around 10% of regular users to addiction. And even some staunch supporters of legalization are concerned about the impact of marijuana on young, developing brains.

You know what else studies suggest contains carcinogens? Barbecue.
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Postby Qoyunlu » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:10 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Or we could ban none of them.
Also, hell, weed's probably less dangerous than sugar from my perspective.
signed, a diabetic

Some studies suggest that cannabis smoke contains carcinogens, or that recreational marijuana use increases the risk of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders and leads around 10% of regular users to addiction. And even some staunch supporters of legalization are concerned about the impact of marijuana on young, developing brains.

Most things contain carcinogens, the WHO even suspects that hot dogs might be carcinogens. You have a lot more things to worry about getting cancer from than marijuana
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:11 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Or we could ban none of them.
Also, hell, weed's probably less dangerous than sugar from my perspective.
signed, a diabetic

Some studies suggest that cannabis smoke contains carcinogens, or that recreational marijuana use increases the risk of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders and leads around 10% of regular users to addiction. And even some staunch supporters of legalization are concerned about the impact of marijuana on young, developing brains.

I'm waiting on you to provide evidence to prove that Pot Alone has caused any deaths, like how Necro asked.
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:12 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Some studies suggest that cannabis smoke contains carcinogens, or that recreational marijuana use increases the risk of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders and leads around 10% of regular users to addiction. And even some staunch supporters of legalization are concerned about the impact of marijuana on young, developing brains.

You know what else studies suggest contains carcinogens? Barbecue.

Even in moderate amounts that don’t lead to overdose, marijuana can lead to a significantly reduced ability to think clearly, make logical decisions or avoid dangerous situations. In addition, people under the influence of the drug can experience a substantial drop in the normal ability to control and coordinate body movements.
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Postby Hwiteard » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:14 pm

Floofybit wrote:We need water to survive. We don't need recreational drugs
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Postby Floofybit » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:14 pm

And, a recent study released in October, 2012, found that individuals treated for addiction to marijuana had a higher mortality rate than those with diagnoses related to cocaine or alcohol,
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:15 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No you don’t. Sugar is not needed. Not the kind your thinking of

""We all need sugar - it's the basic building block of what runs our bodies, and, in fact, it's necessary," Jennifer Haythe, a cardiologist at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in New York told INSIDER."

Link. Don’t just post things without a link.

And no we don’t, we need natural sugar not processed
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:18 pm

Floofybit wrote:And, a recent study released in October, 2012, found that individuals treated for addiction to marijuana had a higher mortality rate than those with diagnoses related to cocaine or alcohol,


Link?

And they were probably 'addicted' to something that the pot was cut with, not the actual pot itself.
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Postby Qoyunlu » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:19 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:You know what else studies suggest contains carcinogens? Barbecue.

Even in moderate amounts that don’t lead to overdose, marijuana can lead to a significantly reduced ability to think clearly, make logical decisions or avoid dangerous situations. In addition, people under the influence of the drug can experience a substantial drop in the normal ability to control and coordinate body movements.

Sleep deprivation (in acute form) can do similar things, while chronic sleep deprivation tacks on a whole bunch of not so nice things. Insomnia affects 30-50% of the US adult population while its chronic forms affects around 10-15% of the adult population

Not sleeping for even just a day or two does some worse things than smoking weed
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:40 pm

Qoyunlu wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Even in moderate amounts that don’t lead to overdose, marijuana can lead to a significantly reduced ability to think clearly, make logical decisions or avoid dangerous situations. In addition, people under the influence of the drug can experience a substantial drop in the normal ability to control and coordinate body movements.

Sleep deprivation (in acute form) can do similar things, while chronic sleep deprivation tacks on a whole bunch of not so nice things. Insomnia affects 30-50% of the US adult population while its chronic forms affects around 10-15% of the adult population

Not sleeping for even just a day or two does some worse things than smoking weed

Not sleeping is as bad as driving drunk if not more so.
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Postby Qoyunlu » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:43 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Qoyunlu wrote:Sleep deprivation (in acute form) can do similar things, while chronic sleep deprivation tacks on a whole bunch of not so nice things. Insomnia affects 30-50% of the US adult population while its chronic forms affects around 10-15% of the adult population

Not sleeping for even just a day or two does some worse things than smoking weed

Not sleeping is as bad as driving drunk if not more so.

Guess we better forcibly pump the people full of melatonin daily and enforce a nation curfew to prevent it
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:45 pm

Qoyunlu wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Not sleeping is as bad as driving drunk if not more so.

Guess we better forcibly pump the people full of melatonin daily and enforce a nation curfew to prevent it

Let’s just wrap people in bubble wrap and sit them in front of a TV to be safe
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:05 pm

Arkansas State Police launch investigation into this incident, captured on camera, outside a convenience store in Crawford County. ASP says two county deputies and a Mulberry police officer were involved.

Obviously, these officers need to be stripped of their badge and their pension. They also need to be charged and locked the fucked up. We also have to stop in pouring psychopaths as police officers. This means forced psychiatric testing before employment and drug testing to rule out the the fucks that like to be hopped up on steroids and amphetamine.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:13 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:Arkansas State Police launch investigation into this incident, captured on camera, outside a convenience store in Crawford County. ASP says two county deputies and a Mulberry police officer were involved.

Obviously, these officers need to be stripped of their badge and their pension. They also need to be charged and locked the fucked up. We also have to stop in pouring psychopaths as police officers. This means forced psychiatric testing before employment and drug testing to rule out the the fucks that like to be hopped up on steroids and amphetamine.

They already do psych and drug testing. It’s easy to pass if you don’t have any previous issues which most don’t.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:17 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:Arkansas State Police launch investigation into this incident, captured on camera, outside a convenience store in Crawford County. ASP says two county deputies and a Mulberry police officer were involved.

Obviously, these officers need to be stripped of their badge and their pension. They also need to be charged and locked the fucked up. We also have to stop in pouring psychopaths as police officers. This means forced psychiatric testing before employment and drug testing to rule out the the fucks that like to be hopped up on steroids and amphetamine.

They already do psych and drug testing. It’s easy to pass if you don’t have any previous issues which most don’t.


What makes a person do what is depicted in the video? The only way I would react that way and beat a person up like that if they were trying to harm or did actually harm someone that I loved. People that do shit like that have psychiatric issues before becoming police officers
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Postby Far The hype » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:21 pm

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:49 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:They already do psych and drug testing. It’s easy to pass if you don’t have any previous issues which most don’t.


What makes a person do what is depicted in the video? The only way I would react that way and beat a person up like that if they were trying to harm or did actually harm someone that I loved. People that do shit like that have psychiatric issues before becoming police officers

Ever heard of bullies? Some people just hate others. Unfortunately you can’t protect against that besides mandating that cops go through a four year training course.
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Postby American Legionaries » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:11 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:They already do psych and drug testing. It’s easy to pass if you don’t have any previous issues which most don’t.


What makes a person do what is depicted in the video?


Society gives them permission to do so without repercussion, and encourages them to do so.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:19 am

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:They already do psych and drug testing. It’s easy to pass if you don’t have any previous issues which most don’t.


What makes a person do what is depicted in the video? The only way I would react that way and beat a person up like that if they were trying to harm or did actually harm someone that I loved. People that do shit like that have psychiatric issues before becoming police officers

No, they probably don't. They're not violent because they're sick, they're violent because they're bad people in a position to do a lot of violence and get away with it, or even be rewarded for it.

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Postby Ayytaly » Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:08 am

Police is necessary but so is accountability and reform. The latter two are allergies criminals have.
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Postby Forever Indomitable » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:40 pm

Atlantic Federalist Republic wrote:
Forever Indomitable wrote:So, you admit that taxation is theft? Good, but no, I have to pay taxes or the legal gang (police) will come harm me for not paying into their bosses' protection racket. Yes, I technically do have the freedom to say no, but the consequence is my imprisonment and/or death. But that's OK with you because it's the government and you personally benefit from this "crime".

If taxes don't exist, how would the government maintain basic services like sanitation? Or public health? (Not talking about the USA)

Well, this is what I propose: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=520421

Instead of taxes, you would have consensual membership dues or we could privatize more services.

Ayytaly wrote:Police is necessary

This has to be the biggest lie told in history. We factually don't need police. Order and productivity arise without it and are not dependent on it. Law enforcement is a parasitic apparatus with zero benefit and massive detriment.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:22 pm

Atlantic Federalist Republic wrote:
Forever Indomitable wrote:So, you admit that taxation is theft? Good, but no, I have to pay taxes or the legal gang (police) will come harm me for not paying into their bosses' protection racket. Yes, I technically do have the freedom to say no, but the consequence is my imprisonment and/or death. But that's OK with you because it's the government and you personally benefit from this "crime".

If taxes don't exist, how would the government maintain basic services like sanitation? Or public health? (Not talking about the USA)

Taxes only exist to keep inflation down or to incentivize you. The real money is whatever the treasury says it is. They can print it and they can make it.
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