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Who do you think will win the Alaska Byelection?

Sarah Palin
38
58%
Nich Begich III
21
32%
Mary Sattler Peltola
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9%
 
Total votes : 65

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Catholic America
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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:09 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Catholic America wrote:I would vote for that party because who doesnt love freedom?


I’m socially libertarian and economically social democratic-democratic socialist

I get the feeling your not one of those dont tread on me libertarians.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:10 am

Catholic America wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Do you like State Shinto? If no then why an exception for State Christianity?

state shinto is fine, I dont care what japan does.

Do you even understand what the Imperial Japanese regime used State Shinto for?

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Postby Sordhau » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:10 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:Why not?


Your entire ideology is literally just Social Democracy. We don't need any more of that nonsense.
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Catholic America
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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:10 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Catholic America wrote:state shinto is fine, I dont care what japan does.

Do you even understand what the Imperial Japanese regime used State Shinto for?

What if I told you that japan couldnt do that again, because we took your army in 1945
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Postby Drago Soviet Russia » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:11 am

Sordhau wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:Why not?


Your entire ideology is literally just Social Democracy. We don't need any more of that nonsense.


It's an improvement, though we need more socialism than that.
"See now, I'm not unsympathetic to your predicament, but that right there is the crazy part of your argument....they aren't the President's votes." - Mary-Louise Parker (Amy Gardner), the West Wing
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Postby Thomasi » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:11 am

Sordhau wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:Why not?


Your entire ideology is literally just Social Democracy. We don't need any more of that nonsense.


So Europe.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:11 am

Drago Soviet Russia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Do you like State Shinto? If no then why an exception for State Christianity?


State religions bad. Period. All of them. Though I'd be tempted to make an exception for State Hinduism...but only tempted. Wouldn't yield to the temptation.

That's Narenda Modi and I wouldn't exactly call his govt fair and benevolent.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:11 am

Catholic America wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I’m socially libertarian and economically social democratic-democratic socialist

I get the feeling your not one of those dont tread on me libertarians.


Well mainstream libertarians wouldn’t like me since I like the concept of the welfare state and worker ownership of the means of production.

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Catholic America
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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:11 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Drago Soviet Russia wrote:
State religions bad. Period. All of them. Though I'd be tempted to make an exception for State Hinduism...but only tempted. Wouldn't yield to the temptation.

That's Narenda Modi and I wouldn't exactly call his govt fair and benevolent.

I never thought id agree with you, but your right.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:12 am

Drago Soviet Russia wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Your entire ideology is literally just Social Democracy. We don't need any more of that nonsense.


It's an improvement, though we need more socialism than that.


I want worker ownership of the means of production and more workplace democracy.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:12 am

Catholic America wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Do you even understand what the Imperial Japanese regime used State Shinto for?

What if I told you that japan couldnt do that again, because we took your army in 1945

This guy when LDP abolishes article 9.

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Catholic America
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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:12 am

Sordhau wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:Why not?


Your entire ideology is literally just Social Democracy. We don't need any more of that nonsense.

how about uh, christian social democracy, but a bit more radical.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Drago Soviet Russia
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Postby Drago Soviet Russia » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:13 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Drago Soviet Russia wrote:
State religions bad. Period. All of them. Though I'd be tempted to make an exception for State Hinduism...but only tempted. Wouldn't yield to the temptation.

That's Narenda Modi and I wouldn't exactly call his govt fair and benevolent.[/quote

What's wrong with Modi? Not that I favor state religion. I just think that he's being attacked mostly by people who dislike Hindus. Often by the same people who think that special exceptions should be made to ban blasphemy against Islam.
"See now, I'm not unsympathetic to your predicament, but that right there is the crazy part of your argument....they aren't the President's votes." - Mary-Louise Parker (Amy Gardner), the West Wing
Proud American non-Leninist Socialist. Perfectly compatible with democracy and freedom, far more than laissez-faire or crony capitalism, for that matter.
Beto is only anti-gun because he has no other noteworthy ideas to offer, since those ideas would offend his wife's oil baron family.

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Catholic America
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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:13 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Catholic America wrote:What if I told you that japan couldnt do that again, because we took your army in 1945

This guy when LDP abolishes article 9.

-1941 social credit
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Sordhau
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Postby Sordhau » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:13 am

Thomasi wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Your entire ideology is literally just Social Democracy. We don't need any more of that nonsense.


So Europe.


Pretty much.

Catholic America wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Your entire ideology is literally just Social Democracy. We don't need any more of that nonsense.

how about uh, christian social democracy, but a bit more radical.


God, no!
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:13 am

Catholic America wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Your entire ideology is literally just Social Democracy. We don't need any more of that nonsense.

how about uh, christian social democracy, but a bit more radical.


Eh. I like the economics of Christian Democracy but I’m not a conservative.

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Drago Soviet Russia
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Postby Drago Soviet Russia » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:13 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Drago Soviet Russia wrote:
It's an improvement, though we need more socialism than that.


I want worker ownership of the means of production and more workplace democracy.


That's progress for sure.
"See now, I'm not unsympathetic to your predicament, but that right there is the crazy part of your argument....they aren't the President's votes." - Mary-Louise Parker (Amy Gardner), the West Wing
Proud American non-Leninist Socialist. Perfectly compatible with democracy and freedom, far more than laissez-faire or crony capitalism, for that matter.
Beto is only anti-gun because he has no other noteworthy ideas to offer, since those ideas would offend his wife's oil baron family.

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Catholic America
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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:14 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Catholic America wrote:how about uh, christian social democracy, but a bit more radical.


Eh. I like the economics of Christian Democracy but I’m not a conservative.

The thing is, between you and me, its not actually all that conservative. Its compassionate conservatism at best.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Catholic America
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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:15 am

Sordhau wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
So Europe.


Pretty much.

Catholic America wrote:how about uh, christian social democracy, but a bit more radical.


God, no!

So are you more economically left or culturally left?
Also lords name in vain.
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:15 am

Drago Soviet Russia wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I want worker ownership of the means of production and more workplace democracy.


That's progress for sure.


Besides you can create socialism from this…

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:15 am

Catholic America wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Eh. I like the economics of Christian Democracy but I’m not a conservative.

The thing is, between you and me, its not actually all that conservative. Its compassionate conservatism at best.


Still conservatism but I think we could agree on economics.

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Postby Drago Soviet Russia » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:15 am

Catholic America wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Eh. I like the economics of Christian Democracy but I’m not a conservative.

The thing is, between you and me, its not actually all that conservative. Its compassionate conservatism at best.


I frankly think that Christian civilization has had its day and is on its way out. And I won't miss it. There will always be Christians. You just have to learn to accept your minority status like the rest of us. There will be no more religious majorities. At all. Pluralistic society is the future.

Full disclosure. I'm an eclectic pagan with Hellenistic and Hindu tendencies. I only play an atheistic communist on NS.
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"See now, I'm not unsympathetic to your predicament, but that right there is the crazy part of your argument....they aren't the President's votes." - Mary-Louise Parker (Amy Gardner), the West Wing
Proud American non-Leninist Socialist. Perfectly compatible with democracy and freedom, far more than laissez-faire or crony capitalism, for that matter.
Beto is only anti-gun because he has no other noteworthy ideas to offer, since those ideas would offend his wife's oil baron family.

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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:16 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Catholic America wrote:The thing is, between you and me, its not actually all that conservative. Its compassionate conservatism at best.


Still conservatism but I think we could agree on economics.

well yes. Things like workplace safety, more welfare, more regs on corps.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Catholic America
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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:17 am

Drago Soviet Russia wrote:
Catholic America wrote:The thing is, between you and me, its not actually all that conservative. Its compassionate conservatism at best.


I frankly think that Christian civilization has had its day and is on its way out. And I won't miss it. There will always be Christians. You just have to learn to accept your minority status like the rest of us. There will be no more religious majorities. At all. Pluralistic society is the future.

thats a very hot take.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Postby Hispida » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:17 am

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