American Politics XIII: (Un)Lucky For Some

[Saiwania]

It would be as futile about talking to Saiwania about race relations.

There is plenty of common ground to be found in those of us within each race that see the need for our respective communities to remain separate/distinct from eachother. The leader of Stormfront and leader of nation of Islam for example, aren't so different. They're each just looking out for their own. They could cooperate if the need ever arises, like when an Imperial and Republic officer teamed up on Hoth, to take out pirates harassing both of their armies.

[Prima Scriptura]

It would be as futile about talking to Saiwania about race relations.

There is plenty of common ground to be found in those of us within each race that see the need for our respective communities to remain separate/distinct from eachother. The leader of Stormfront and leader of nation of Islam for example, aren't so different. They're each just looking out for their own. They could cooperate if the need ever arises, like when an Imperial and Republic officer teamed up on Hoth, to take out pirates harassing both of their armies.

People like me who are mixed race can tell any type of racial supremacist or separatists to go fuck themselves

[San Lumen]

It would be as futile about talking to Saiwania about race relations.

There is plenty of common ground to be found in those of us within each race that see the need for our respective communities to remain separate/distinct from eachother. The leader of Stormfront and leader of nation of Islam for example, aren't so different. They're each just looking out for their own. They could cooperate if the need ever arises, like when an Imperial and Republic officer teamed up on Hoth, to take out pirates harassing both of their armies.

racial supremacy of any kind is wrong. No one is better than anyone else because of their race, religion or ethnic background.

[Tarsonis]

There is plenty of common ground to be found in those of us within each race that see the need for our respective communities to remain separate/distinct from eachother. The leader of Stormfront and leader of nation of Islam for example, aren't so different. They're each just looking out for their own. They could cooperate if the need ever arises, like when an Imperial and Republic officer teamed up on Hoth, to take out pirates harassing both of their armies.

People like me who are mixed race can tell any type of racial supremacist or separatists to go fuck themselves

I mean, the mods probably won't like it

[Bienenhalde]

QED.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/07/27/mon ... pread.html

Interesting. But I still don't understand why the WHO just didn't tell people in general to avoid promiscuous sex.

[Rakhalia]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/07/27/mon ... pread.html

Interesting. But I still don't understand why the WHO just didn't tell people in general to avoid promiscuous sex.

turns out that, shockingly, large institutions that are upheld as arbiters of Truth are still susceptible to prejudice

[Bienenhalde]

Indeed.

This includes both the anarchist terrorists that made Minneapolis burn and also the MAGA terrorists that attacked our capital on January 6, 2021.

Damn, am I the only one in the United States that’s able to condemn both antifa and proud boys/oath keepers/etc simultaneously?

Unfortunately, it seems as though there are fewer of us than one might wish.

[Bienenhalde]

Interesting. But I still don't understand why the WHO just didn't tell people in general to avoid promiscuous sex.

turns out that, shockingly, large institutions that are upheld as arbiters of Truth are still susceptible to prejudice

Yeah, well, I am not defending this bad decision by the WHO. I think maybe it would have been better if they just said it was sexually transmitted and didn't mention homosexuality.

[Rakhalia]

turns out that, shockingly, large institutions that are upheld as arbiters of Truth are still susceptible to prejudice

Yeah, well, I am not defending this bad decision by the WHO. I think maybe it would have been better if they just said it was sexually transmitted and didn't mention homosexuality.

Notably, it's not an STI. If you have sex with someone with COVID, there's a big chance you'll get it, but that doesn't make it an STI. Monkeypox is just transmitted by close bodily contact, not sexual fluids. This is just another conservative moral panic where their selective concern for human life is only invoked when it can be used as a cudgel against minorities.

[Prima Scriptura]

Yeah, well, I am not defending this bad decision by the WHO. I think maybe it would have been better if they just said it was sexually transmitted and didn't mention homosexuality.

Notably, it's not an STI. If you have sex with someone with COVID, there's a big chance you'll get it, but that doesn't make it an STI. Monkeypox is just transmitted by close bodily contact, not sexual fluids. This is just another conservative moral panic where their selective concern for human life is only invoked when it can be used as a cudgel against minorities.

No, it’s not. It’s telling promiscuous men who have homosexual sex to reduce the amount of partners they have. You view it as an attack on the whole community, in which you concede, intentional or not, that they represent a large % of the community

[Vassenor]

Notably, it's not an STI. If you have sex with someone with COVID, there's a big chance you'll get it, but that doesn't make it an STI. Monkeypox is just transmitted by close bodily contact, not sexual fluids. This is just another conservative moral panic where their selective concern for human life is only invoked when it can be used as a cudgel against minorities.

No, it’s not. It’s telling promiscuous men who have homosexual sex to reduce the amount of partners they have. You view it as an attack on the whole community, in which you concede, intentional or not, that they represent a large % of the community

So why is this advice only being given to one group when anyone can catch it in this way?

[Prima Scriptura]

No, it’s not. It’s telling promiscuous men who have homosexual sex to reduce the amount of partners they have. You view it as an attack on the whole community, in which you concede, intentional or not, that they represent a large % of the community

So why is this advice only being given to one group when anyone can catch it in this way?

Because it is spread largely due to sodomy.

[Senkaku]

No, it’s not. It’s telling promiscuous men who have homosexual sex to reduce the amount of partners they have. You view it as an attack on the whole community, in which you concede, intentional or not, that they represent a large % of the community

So why is this advice only being given to one group when anyone can catch it in this way?

Because it is actually spreading through sexual networks of men who have sex with men, which is currently where a lot of the transmission is happening. That doesn’t mean it will continue to be primarily their problem if the government continues to do next to nothing to contain it, but for now it is, so the guidance is reasonable. The objection here is just that Prima has been saying (in so many words) men who have sex with men are sinners and disease-spreading sluts for a long time before monkeypox ever reared its head, and that he and other far-right hacks are now capitalizing on the outbreak to try to score political points for the homophobic movement rather than actually having any substantive concerns or useful advice about public health. It sort of beggars belief to spend years preaching hate and then suddenly expect people to love you when a tiny piece of your hateful doctrine temporarily aligns with public health guidance during an epidemic.

[Prima Scriptura]

So why is this advice only being given to one group when anyone can catch it in this way?

Because it is actually spreading through sexual networks of men who have sex with men, which is currently where a lot of the transmission is happening. That doesn’t mean it will continue to be primarily their problem if the government continues to do next to nothing to contain it, but for now it is, so the guidance is reasonable. The objection here is just that Prima has been saying (in so many words) men who have sex with men are sinners and disease-spreading sluts for a long time before monkeypox ever reared its head, and that he and other far-right hacks are now capitalizing on the outbreak to try to score political points for the homophobic movement rather than actually having any substantive concerns or useful advice about public health.

Lol, no.

[Tarsonis]

So why is this advice only being given to one group when anyone can catch it in this way?

Because it is spread largely due to sodomy.

thats not how virology works.

[Necroghastia]

So why is this advice only being given to one group when anyone can catch it in this way?

Because it is spread largely due to sodomy.

I see we're using the precise medical terminology here.

[Rakhalia]

Notably, it's not an STI. If you have sex with someone with COVID, there's a big chance you'll get it, but that doesn't make it an STI. Monkeypox is just transmitted by close bodily contact, not sexual fluids. This is just another conservative moral panic where their selective concern for human life is only invoked when it can be used as a cudgel against minorities.

No, it’s not. It’s telling promiscuous men who have homosexual sex to reduce the amount of partners they have. You view it as an attack on the whole community, in which you concede, intentional or not, that they represent a large % of the community

And I say that this should be a general precaution regarding any physical contact for any member of the public during a virus outbreak? Why focus on gay people? Oh right, because that subtly advances a cynical war against our liberties by shadowy interests that want us gone for the sake of moral values that should have died decades ago.

[Prima Scriptura]

No, it’s not. It’s telling promiscuous men who have homosexual sex to reduce the amount of partners they have. You view it as an attack on the whole community, in which you concede, intentional or not, that they represent a large % of the community

And I say that this should be a general precaution regarding any physical contact for any member of the public during a virus outbreak? Why focus on gay people? Oh right, because that subtly advances a cynical war against our liberties by shadowy interests that want us gone for the sake of moral values that should have died decades ago.

Nobody is preventing anyone from having consensual sex with strangers.

[Ulajhan]

Nobody is preventing anyone from having consensual sex with strangers.

Not yet anyway.

[Autumn Wind]

So why is this advice only being given to one group when anyone can catch it in this way?

Because it is spread largely due to sodomy.

That means heterosexual anal and oral sex as well.

[Rakhalia]

And I say that this should be a general precaution regarding any physical contact for any member of the public during a virus outbreak? Why focus on gay people? Oh right, because that subtly advances a cynical war against our liberties by shadowy interests that want us gone for the sake of moral values that should have died decades ago.

Nobody is preventing anyone from having consensual sex with strangers.

Plenty of people would like to. And waging a not-so-silent war against queer people through blatant virological disinformation doesn't help decrease that demographic.

[Prima Scriptura]

Nobody is preventing anyone from having consensual sex with strangers.

Plenty of people would like to. And waging a not-so-silent war against queer people through blatant virological disinformation doesn't help decrease that demographic.

So, the WHO is publishing disinformation?

[Tarsonis]

Plenty of people would like to. And waging a not-so-silent war against queer people through blatant virological disinformation doesn't help decrease that demographic.

So, the WHO is publishing disinformation?

Rather you're misrepresenting the situation. Only warning the Queer community to stop having sex because it's primarily spread through sodomy, is as dumb now as it was 30 years ago when they did it for HIV. That it is primarily spread that way at current, is a matter of context not mechanics. Any sex will spread it, not just "sodomy"

[Bienenhalde]

So why is this advice only being given to one group when anyone can catch it in this way?

Because it is spread largely due to sodomy.

Do you really have to use that word? With all due respect to your personal beliefs, it seems offensive and inappropriate to apply such terminology to consensual sexual acts. And I don't even approve of promiscuity, but in this situation, your word usage is just unnecessarily inflammatory and doesn't help your argument.

[Rakhalia]

Plenty of people would like to. And waging a not-so-silent war against queer people through blatant virological disinformation doesn't help decrease that demographic.

So, the WHO is publishing disinformation?

The WHO hasn't published disinformation per se -- it's published the fact that this has first emerged among gay people (entirely true) and that it infects via close bodily contact. This does not, however, mean that the brunt of public health caution should be taken with regards to gay people. Monkeypox can infect anyone and it isn't an STD transmitted through sexual fluids. It could spread to anyone and it's just in its infancy among gay people. The WHO has implicit heterosexual biases, like most institutions in an incredibly heteronormative world, so obviously it's going to try to sneak in a bit of anti-gay bullshit in that'll be blown out of proportion by conservatives looking for their new baton to bludgeon us evil, family-subverting deviant faggots with. But regardless, from these facts alone, it's hard to justify putting the public health focus on gay people. There's nothing that makes this virus explicitly a homophobic beast that targets gay people out of religious malice, it spreads through close bodily contact to *anyone*. Meaning everyone should be taking the same fucking precautions, thank you very much.