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Finalis
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Postby Finalis » Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:54 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/3603784-tucker-carlson-trump-obviously-going-to-be-indicted/

Tucker Carlson: Trump ‘obviously’ going to be indicted

I’m no fan of his or Fox News but it’s a big deal for him to be saying this.


So Tucker Carlson stabbing the God Emperor Trump in the back eh? What a traitor.

no one actually read what he said, eh?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:55 am

Finalis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Your generalization is still wrong and you clearly don’t understand how investigations work and want it compromised because it wound help your candidate.

this is fine but i've still been right about everything so far and wrong about nothing.

also, anything to say about the inflation reduction act that won't reduce inflation?


You have been right about nothing. You simply like bashing cities and promoting conspiracy theories.

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The Alma Mater
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:55 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Deblar wrote:If even Tucker fucking Carlson is saying you’ll get indicted, your prospects are not great

If President Trump is indicted, it is not because he is guilty, it's because the Hypocrite, Leftist, Democrat, Trump Haters, of over 4 years and counting are Politically Prosecuting him.


OR because those Hypocrite, Leftist, Democrat, Trump Haters were right the whole time - and you were wrong.

Which is vastly more likely.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:55 am

Finalis wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
So Tucker Carlson stabbing the God Emperor Trump in the back eh? What a traitor.

no one actually read what he said, eh?


God no, he is full of shit.
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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:56 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/3603784-tucker-carlson-trump-obviously-going-to-be-indicted/

Tucker Carlson: Trump ‘obviously’ going to be indicted

I’m no fan of his or Fox News but it’s a big deal for him to be saying this.


So Tucker Carlson stabbing the God Emperor Trump in the back eh? What a traitor.

I saw Tucker Carlson's comments, he did not say Trump is guilty, on the contrary.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:57 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:If President Trump is indicted, it is not because he is guilty, it's because the Hypocrite, Leftist, Democrat, Trump Haters, of over 4 years and counting are Politically Prosecuting him.


OR because those Hypocrite, Leftist, Democrat, Trump Haters were right the whole time - and you were wrong.

Which is vastly more likely.

If I might be wrong, you guys might be wrong, it works both ways, not just one way, your way, it works both ways.
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:58 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
Finalis wrote:no one actually read what he said, eh?


God no, he is full of shit.


Ohno, he is a great entertainer and parodyist.
It is just sad that there are some who take him seriously, despite Fox explicitly stating that no sane person would do so.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:00 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
God no, he is full of shit.


Ohno, he is a great entertainer and parodyist.
It is just sad that there are some who take him seriously, despite Fox explicitly stating that no sane person would do so.

Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and all the right wing news talk show hosts are awesome.
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:03 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Deblar wrote:If even Tucker fucking Carlson is saying you’ll get indicted, your prospects are not great

If President Trump is indicted, it is not because he is guilty, it's because the Hypocrite, Leftist, Democrat, Trump Haters, of over 4 years and counting are Politically Prosecuting him.


The US is about 40% Republican, 60% Democratic. So if he is tried and a jury convicts then the prosecutor will have to convince the Republicans on that jury.

Would you accept it then? When even your fellow Republicans think he's guilty when presented with the evidence?

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:03 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:If President Trump is indicted, it is not because he is guilty, it's because the Hypocrite, Leftist, Democrat, Trump Haters, of over 4 years and counting are Politically Prosecuting him.


The US is about 40% Republican, 60% Democratic. So if he is tried and a jury convicts then the prosecutor will have to convince the Republicans on that jury.

Would you accept it then? If even your fellow Republicans think he's guilty when presented with the evidence?

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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:03 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
God no, he is full of shit.


Ohno, he is a great entertainer and parodyist.
It is just sad that there are some who take him seriously, despite Fox explicitly stating that no sane person would do so.


I wonder if Tucker fans actually watch/listen to him when he goes on other shows/podcasts. He openly says that he lies to his audience and giggles like a bitch when confronted on it.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:03 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
OR because those Hypocrite, Leftist, Democrat, Trump Haters were right the whole time - and you were wrong.

Which is vastly more likely.

If I might be wrong, you guys might be wrong, it works both ways, not just one way, your way, it works both ways.


You do indeed have a desperate need to believe this.

You've got nothing else.
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Postby Sordhau » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:04 pm

Tarsonis wrote:I'm not interested in constraining freedom, true.


Freedom is when you take pictures of dead people and wave them around like trophies.

No I don't think meat heads being dicks is grounds for ushering the mass murdering oppressive regime you dream about.


I think you're confused. We're living under the mass murdering oppressive regime right now. Which, for the record, you support and I want to demolish.

I realize that might seem bananas to you, but that really just says more about you, doesn't it.


Yes, it does say a lot about me that I don't think societies should tolerate the psychological manipulation and humiliation of people for the amusement of sociopaths.

Changing the law won't matter in this case. that's how no ex post facto works.


Cool story bro. Don't care tho.

I'm laughing at someone who wants to line everyone who resists her plans up against the wall to be shot thinking she has a leg to stand on.


Remember kids: violence and oppression are only bad when it's obvious. This is your brain on Liberalism.

Also, nice strawman.

Nah we're stuck on you abhorrent political beliefs.


You're the one who keeps building strawmen as some sort of "gotcha" my dude. Maybe stop obsessing over what you *think* I want for five minutes and get your head out of the 80-year state and corporate propaganda psyop to convince working class people that the only ideology advocating for their liberation is actually super evil and just wants to kill people for no reason.

That's not what I said nor was that what you responded to. Lying is even worse.


Then why are you lying?

Don't bring it inside in the first place then.


"no u"

Great argument. I've been thoroughly defeated. Woe is me! :roll:

No, what I'm betting at is that you seem to think that you think your experiences is hard invalidates the experiences of others. That nobody else has had it rough,n and were all smoking big cigars on leather couches while you toil away under thr oppressive heel.


This is literally what I just said but in different wording. You're not nearly as clever as you seem to think you are my dude.

And if I disagree with you it's because I don't know the system like you do.


No, you disagree with me because you believe the lies the system tells you. Just as I used to.
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Emotional Support Crocodile
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:05 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
God no, he is full of shit.


Ohno, he is a great entertainer and parodyist.
It is just sad that there are some who take him seriously, despite Fox explicitly stating that no sane person would do so.


He is from the same pod as Alex Jones.
Just another surprising item on the bagging scale of life

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:06 pm

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/3603784-tucker-carlson-trump-obviously-going-to-be-indicted/

Tucker Carlson: Trump ‘obviously’ going to be indicted

I’m no fan of his or Fox News but it’s a big deal for him to be saying this.


So Tucker Carlson stabbing the God Emperor Trump in the back eh? What a traitor.

He's not stabbing Trump in the back, he's saying that this is a stitch-up.

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Postby Tarsonis » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:14 pm

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/3603784-tucker-carlson-trump-obviously-going-to-be-indicted/

Tucker Carlson: Trump ‘obviously’ going to be indicted

I’m no fan of his or Fox News but it’s a big deal for him to be saying this.


So Tucker Carlson stabbing the God Emperor Trump in the back eh? What a traitor.


Unless I missed something, he hasn't done anything of the sort. He's not once said Trump was guilty, just that the DOJ will indict him.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/3603784-tucker-carlson-trump-obviously-going-to-be-indicted/

Tucker Carlson: Trump ‘obviously’ going to be indicted

I’m no fan of his or Fox News but it’s a big deal for him to be saying this.


Maybe I am misunderstanding……he is not saying Trump is going to get convicted because he is guilty. He is saying the demos are going to convict him no matter what.

Fishstick is going to do what fishstick does. Spew nonsense and stir hate…..
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:17 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:If President Trump is indicted, it is not because he is guilty, it's because the Hypocrite, Leftist, Democrat, Trump Haters, of over 4 years and counting are Politically Prosecuting him.


The US is about 40% Republican, 60% Democratic. So if he is tried and a jury convicts then the prosecutor will have to convince the Republicans on that jury.

Would you accept it then? When even your fellow Republicans think he's guilty when presented with the evidence?

Even in a US court of law, there are times when a jury cant decide guilty or not guilty, after hearing the same so called evidence. We know lawyers try to get jurors appointed who agree with their case. It is hard to get an honest impartial jury for a Republican in Washington DC.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:18 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
So Tucker Carlson stabbing the God Emperor Trump in the back eh? What a traitor.


Unless I missed something, he hasn't done anything of the sort. He's not once said Trump was guilty, just that the DOJ will indict him.


The GOP will nominate the motherfucker while he is on trial. I don’t think he can be convicted because about 40% of the country believes he is infallible.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:20 pm

Have we talked at all about how IRS agents can shoot people now?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:20 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Unless I missed something, he hasn't done anything of the sort. He's not once said Trump was guilty, just that the DOJ will indict him.


The GOP will nominate the motherfucker while he is on trial. I don’t think he can be convicted because about 40% of the country believes he is infallible.

Get a jury of penguins. There, complete impartiality guranteed.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:21 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Have we talked at all about how IRS agents can shoot people now?


Err what now? I don’t think we did.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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Prima Scriptura
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:21 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Have we talked at all about how IRS agents can shoot people now?


I mean, all law enforcement agents should be armed.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:22 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Have we talked at all about how IRS agents can shoot people now?


Err what now? I don’t think we did.


Yep.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:23 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Have we talked at all about how IRS agents can shoot people now?

That sounds bad. Why would the IRS be shooting people?

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