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Who do you think will win the Alaska Byelection?

Sarah Palin
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Nich Begich III
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Mary Sattler Peltola
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:41 pm

The United Front Empire wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And I am sure you can provide a source for all of these claims that isn't just your rectum.


What do you want a source on? These are the campaign issues being talked about everywhere in politics everyday. None of this is even debatable that it is happening, the debate is what side is right.

Inflation:

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/inflati ... d=86600412

Supply chain:

https://sourcingjournal.com/topics/logi ... et-354640/

Crime:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/major-cities ... -shootings

School:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/parent ... ace-theory

The economy is always issue number one. And the Dems have no answers.

"It's the economy, stupid":

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/ ... -rcna36715

Is there an issue you thought was more important to voters?

If the economy is the number one issue then what makes you think the Republicans will win on culture war nonsense about who can get pregnant?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:42 pm

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Neutraligon wrote:Answer nope, however, only females, and not all females, can get pregnant.some men can get pregnant.


And that answer from a Dem will win the Republicans every election. 99% of Americans agree with the biological answer that only women can get pregnant. Anything else is seen as lunacy, or a lie.

Where are you getting that stat?
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Postby Umeria » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:44 pm

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Umeria wrote:Not the elections where there are more important issues on the table

1. It doesn't matter. If a Democrat answers anything besides "Only biological women can get pregnant" they will get torn apart at the polls.

Actually your niche internet community are the only people who prioritize language policing over anything substantive

2. What are the more important issues? More things the Dems have failed on?

Gas? Inflation? The supply chain? Violent crime? School material?

I think it was Virginia that had that special election already for governor and had the red wave, we are already seeing what issues people care about.

1 million Democrats have swapped parties this year.

You're kind of proving my point here. McAuliffe lost the election because he followed Youngkin down the culture war rabbit hole instead of sticking to what's important.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:45 pm

I going to be honest, I’m more concerned about the economy and our rights etc. Than what someone thinks about who can get pregnant.

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Postby Senkaku » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:46 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The United Front Empire wrote:
And that answer from a Dem will win the Republicans every election. 99% of Americans agree with the biological answer that only women can get pregnant. Anything else is seen as lunacy, or a lie.

Where are you getting that stat?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:46 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:There was such an anti-labor anti-union sentiment through the 80s and even 90s where people who were otherwise to the left of communism would rote repeat 'unions were a good idea but went too far' etc. By the end of the 90s when it was absolutely clear we were getting skull fucked by capitalism it was like a bit of waking up from hypnotism and young people (anyone below boomer) started the slow tedious drive to unionize.

Well, caveat. The 80s did have a big push by unions as part of the buy American movement that included ads that suggested we 'look for the union label' but when that faded it was a quick turn in the other direction.


You forgot the cool songs :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_wqeP5H_7M

It's been stuck in my head since I started reading the union part of the thread. It'll take days to get out now.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:47 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Where are you getting that stat?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:49 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:I going to be honest, I’m more concerned about the economy and our rights etc. Than what someone thinks about who can get pregnant.

I do feel like the genital police are starting to creep everybody out. Maybe that's just me being optimistic or sample bias. Probably the latter.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:51 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:I going to be honest, I’m more concerned about the economy and our rights etc. Than what someone thinks about who can get pregnant.

I do feel like the genital police are starting to creep everybody out. Maybe that's just me being optimistic or sample bias. Probably the latter.


The what?

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Postby The United Front Empire » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:54 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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Democrats passed the spending bills that started the inflation. Biden has done nothing but stifle job growth. He has no solution to supply chain or electrical power supply issues. The dems are 100% at fault. None of this had to happen.



It has absolutely nothing to do with that lol. People are going to vote based on their beliefs.


What bills started the inflation, and how?

Which party voted against a law to end gasoline price gouging?


The $1.9 trillion dollar relief

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -stimulus/

Everyone knew this was going to cause inflation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/us/p ... mbers.html

There is no gas price gouging. The Biden admin has called for investigations into several trades for price gouging, but it's a witch hunt as they desperately blame the economy on anything but themselves. For there to be price gouging, there would have to not be inflation, the increased prices are because of inflation.

https://www.newsdakota.com/2022/06/24/i ... ertilizer/
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:54 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You forgot the cool songs :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_wqeP5H_7M

It's been stuck in my head since I started reading the union part of the thread. It'll take days to get out now.


It's amazing who the old stuff can stain your mind. The one that is always in the background for me. The McDonalds chorus line ad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8lh0ffnsRA open if you dare. :D

There was the Jason Alexander one which I did finally forget a few years ago :D
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:55 pm

The United Front Empire wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
What bills started the inflation, and how?

Which party voted against a law to end gasoline price gouging?


The $1.9 trillion dollar relief

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -stimulus/

Everyone knew this was going to cause inflation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/us/p ... mbers.html

There is no gas price gouging. The Biden admin has called for investigations into several trades for price gouging, but it's a witch hunt as they desperately blame the economy on anything but themselves. For there to be price gouging, there would have to not be inflation, the increased prices are because of inflation.

https://www.newsdakota.com/2022/06/24/i ... ertilizer/


What does the price of fertiliser have to do with gasoline pricing?
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Postby The United Front Empire » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:59 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The United Front Empire wrote:
The $1.9 trillion dollar relief

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -stimulus/

Everyone knew this was going to cause inflation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/us/p ... mbers.html

There is no gas price gouging. The Biden admin has called for investigations into several trades for price gouging, but it's a witch hunt as they desperately blame the economy on anything but themselves. For there to be price gouging, there would have to not be inflation, the increased prices are because of inflation.

https://www.newsdakota.com/2022/06/24/i ... ertilizer/


What does the price of fertiliser have to do with gasoline pricing?


It's showing that the first of the "price gouging" investigations are finishing...and finding nothing. The Biden admin won't even actually investigate gas because they don't want the investigation to finish like this one and lose a blame angle.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:01 pm

Aren’t other countries dealing with high prices too? Not trying to deflect but is this just an American thing?

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:02 pm

The United Front Empire wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
What does the price of fertiliser have to do with gasoline pricing?


It's showing that the first of the "price gouging" investigations are finishing...and finding nothing. The Biden admin won't even actually investigate gas because they don't want the investigation to finish like this one and lose a blame angle.


So why did the GOP House Caucus unanimously vote against a bill to ban predatory gas price increases? Because it sounds like they didn’t want to lose a blame angle.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:04 pm

The United Front Empire wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
What does the price of fertiliser have to do with gasoline pricing?


It's showing that the first of the "price gouging" investigations are finishing...and finding nothing. The Biden admin won't even actually investigate gas because they don't want the investigation to finish like this one and lose a blame angle.


Hmmm.....question. Do you think prices are defined by supply and demand?
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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:05 pm

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Necroghastia wrote:I'm sure you have a reliable source for that percentage.


How long you willing to hold your breath? ;)

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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:06 pm

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Don't tell me I am not left wing when I am.
Not all people on the left wing spectrum want to remove capitalism, they want it to be regulated or become cooperatives.
Small businesses need to be cooperatives.

The left does not solely exist to destroy capitalism.

So never tell me I am left wing when I have been for a long time. You are not the left wing gatekeeper.


This isn't revolutionary France where any republican secularist is a Leftist; this is the modern era, where the Left-wing is defined explicitly by anti-capitalism and has been since the late 19th century. You are, at most, Center-Left. Certainly not a Socialist by any measure. The struggle of the Left-wing is one against oppressive hierarchies in which those at the top benefit at the expense of those at the bottom; this includes Capitalism. It doesn't matter how much you water it down - the exploitation is still there. To be a Leftist is to understand this and to oppose it. You refuse to oppose it; ergo you are not a Leftist. I'm not gatekeeping shit. I am using the proper fucking definitions. Bury your head in the sand all you like, it changes


And I don't care about you bullshit gatekeeping.
Your opinions mean nothing.

I am a libertarian socialist.
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:06 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:Aren’t other countries dealing with high prices too? Not trying to deflect but is this just an American thing?


We don't seem to have it as bad as most from what I've seen.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:07 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:Aren’t other countries dealing with high prices too? Not trying to deflect but is this just an American thing?


We don't seem to have it as bad as most from what I've seen.


Interesting. Still not good though.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:10 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:Aren’t other countries dealing with high prices too? Not trying to deflect but is this just an American thing?


We don't seem to have it as bad as most from what I've seen.


Fuel at my local station is sat at about $8.45 a gallon, for instance.
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:13 pm

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We don't seem to have it as bad as most from what I've seen.


Fuel at my local station is sat at about $8.45 a gallon, for instance.


Fuel's always been pricier, last time I was in England fuel was about 8ish USD to the gallon.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:16 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:I do feel like the genital police are starting to creep everybody out. Maybe that's just me being optimistic or sample bias. Probably the latter.


The what?

Most anti-transgender policy amounts to policing people's genitals like bathroom laws. In order to enforce them you're basically asking people to check other people's genitals. I don't know how you roll but when I'm in a public bathroom I try to think as little as possible about how many genitals are out much less what everyone is packing.

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Cannot think of a name wrote:It's been stuck in my head since I started reading the union part of the thread. It'll take days to get out now.


It's amazing who the old stuff can stain your mind. The one that is always in the background for me. The McDonalds chorus line ad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8lh0ffnsRA open if you dare. :D

There was the Jason Alexander one which I did finally forget a few years ago :D

I don't immediately remember what you're talking about and now I'm reluctant to click that link.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:18 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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We don't seem to have it as bad as most from what I've seen.


Fuel at my local station is sat at about $8.45 a gallon, for instance.


Oh shit, I thought mine was egregiously high and it's half that
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