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Who do you think will win the Alaska Byelection?

Sarah Palin
38
58%
Nich Begich III
21
32%
Mary Sattler Peltola
6
9%
 
Total votes : 65

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Pasong Tirad
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Founded: May 31, 2007
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Fuck the colleagues he's sending striking workers pizza and firearms. Sounds like Tars has the right people on his side.


And without support of the legislature or council nothing is getting done. There is no way they’d win a primary or general election after comments and actions like that.

This is what happens when somebody doesn't understand how change can occur outside of the realm of electoral politics. People are literally striking for better conditions and Lumen's still "But what about the politicians!!!!!!"

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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Posts: 3024
Founded: Jul 24, 2021
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:13 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Yes there were always persons working, but many stores, restaurants and hotels closed during the virus crisis, many became unemployed and the leftist politicians, VIPs and Leftist Media blamed Trump, these are facts.
Yes. Cause Trump either downplayed or distracted people during that time, while also spreading lies and falsehoods about the pandemic! THAT’S THE REALITY!

As I stated, businesses were requiring workers and customers to follow the health guide lines, under the government of President Trump,
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San Lumen
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Founded: Jul 02, 2009
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:13 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
And without support of the legislature or council nothing is getting done. There is no way they’d win a primary or general election after comments and actions like that.

This is what happens when somebody doesn't understand how change can occur outside of the realm of electoral politics. People are literally striking for better conditions and Lumen's still "But what about the politicians!!!!!!"


No that’s not what I said.

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The United Penguin Commonwealth
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Posts: 2350
Founded: Feb 01, 2022
Democratic Socialists

Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:13 pm

anyway, the supreme court decided on West Virginia v EPA, so I guess now agencies can't make policies unless congress specifically tells them they can or something. what fun. I see the GOP's plan to hamstring the federal government into uselessness is underway.

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Tarsonis
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Founded: Sep 20, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Tarsonis » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
No I totally would, because this is the land of a make believe and I can do what I want


In the real world you’d lose re-election either in a primary or general election.


in the real world neither you nor I would be within 12 parsecs of holding public office, so what the fuck does it matter.
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Finalis
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Posts: 694
Founded: Jul 28, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Finalis » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:14 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Finalis wrote:it is the word


oh I hadn't heard

but i thought everyone had heard?
the end

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Kannap
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 66909
Founded: May 07, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Kannap » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:14 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
What's a bird?

Birds aren't real.


All of the birds died in 1986 due to Reagan killing them and replacing them with spies that are now watching us. The birds work for the bourgeoisie.
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Tarsonis
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Founded: Sep 20, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Tarsonis » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:This is what happens when somebody doesn't understand how change can occur outside of the realm of electoral politics. People are literally striking for better conditions and Lumen's still "But what about the politicians!!!!!!"


No that’s not what I said.


Kinda is, once the workers have the pizza and the guns, the legislature and the council become sort of superfluous
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Finalis
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Posts: 694
Founded: Jul 28, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Finalis » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:14 pm

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:anyway, the supreme court decided on West Virginia v EPA, so I guess now agencies can't make policies unless congress specifically tells them they can or something. what fun. I see the GOP's plan to hamstring the federal government into uselessness is underway.

the concept of unelected bureaucracies getting to make what are essentially laws without having to go through the legislature in what are supposed to be democratic countries has always seemed weird
the end

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San Lumen
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Posts: 75570
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:14 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
In the real world you’d lose re-election either in a primary or general election.


in the real world neither you nor I would be within 12 parsecs of holding public office, so what the fuck does it matter.


In an election between you and me I’d win.

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Jewish Underground State
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Posts: 787
Founded: Apr 08, 2022
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Jewish Underground State » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:15 pm

Kannap wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Birds aren't real.


All of the birds died in 1986 due to Reagan killing them and replacing them with spies that are now watching us. The birds work for the bourgeoisie.

Ah my favorite conspiracy.

The conspiracy that birds existed in the first place.
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Finalis
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Posts: 694
Founded: Jul 28, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Finalis » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
in the real world neither you nor I would be within 12 parsecs of holding public office, so what the fuck does it matter.


In an election between you and me I’d win.

:rofl:
the end

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The United Penguin Commonwealth
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Posts: 2350
Founded: Feb 01, 2022
Democratic Socialists

Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:15 pm

Kannap wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Birds aren't real.


All of the birds died in 1986 due to Reagan killing them and replacing them with spies that are now watching us. The birds work for the bourgeoisie.


you could be saying that the Reagan administration did it, but I think it's funnier if you're suggesting Reagan personally killed all the birds, so that's what I'm going with.

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Kannap wrote:Gotta deny people are born gay because then you have to wrestle with the idea that if people are born gay then its by God's design and, if such, serves a God-given purpose and that doesn't mesh with God believing its a sin.

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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Posts: 3024
Founded: Jul 24, 2021
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
in the real world neither you nor I would be within 12 parsecs of holding public office, so what the fuck does it matter.


In an election between you and me I’d win.

I second your statement.
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Tarsonis
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Founded: Sep 20, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Tarsonis » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:15 pm

Kannap wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Birds aren't real.


All of the birds died in 1986 due to Reagan killing them and replacing them with spies that are now watching us. The birds work for the bourgeoisie.


except crows
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Jewish Underground State
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Posts: 787
Founded: Apr 08, 2022
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Jewish Underground State » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:16 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Kannap wrote:
All of the birds died in 1986 due to Reagan killing them and replacing them with spies that are now watching us. The birds work for the bourgeoisie.


except crows

Crows are demons from hell so I don’t think they count.

This is why we made scarecrows.
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Pasong Tirad
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Posts: 11473
Founded: May 31, 2007
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:This is what happens when somebody doesn't understand how change can occur outside of the realm of electoral politics. People are literally striking for better conditions and Lumen's still "But what about the politicians!!!!!!"


No that’s not what I said.

The conversation is literally about the possibility of a mayor, governor or other elected politician supporting striking workers by giving them food. People are literally already on strike or threatening to strike and your concern is that the mayor, governor or whoever that voices their support for striking workers would lose the support of their colleagues in elected office - to which we've been trying desperately to point out to you that that doesn't fucking matter when you've suddenly got the support of striking workers on your side.

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San Lumen
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Posts: 75570
Founded: Jul 02, 2009
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:18 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
No that’s not what I said.

The conversation is literally about the possibility of a mayor, governor or other elected politician supporting striking workers by giving them food. People are literally already on strike or threatening to strike and your concern is that the mayor, governor or whoever that voices their support for striking workers would lose the support of their colleagues in elected office - to which we've been trying desperately to point out to you that that doesn't fucking matter when you've suddenly got the support of striking workers on your side.


You also left out the part where Tarsonis said people would have deal with no power and shortages and to send food to striking workers. They would come off as tone deaf.

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Kannap
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Posts: 66909
Founded: May 07, 2012
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Kannap » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:19 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
in the real world neither you nor I would be within 12 parsecs of holding public office, so what the fuck does it matter.


In an election between you and me I’d win.


Between you and Tarsonis? My money's on Tars.
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Finalis
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Founded: Jul 28, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Finalis » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:19 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:The conversation is literally about the possibility of a mayor, governor or other elected politician supporting striking workers by giving them food. People are literally already on strike or threatening to strike and your concern is that the mayor, governor or whoever that voices their support for striking workers would lose the support of their colleagues in elected office - to which we've been trying desperately to point out to you that that doesn't fucking matter when you've suddenly got the support of striking workers on your side.


You also left out the part where Tarsonis said people would have deal with no power and shortages and to send food to striking workers. They would come off as tone deaf.

then give the workers what they want, silly.
the end

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Tarsonis
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Founded: Sep 20, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Tarsonis » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:19 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
in the real world neither you nor I would be within 12 parsecs of holding public office, so what the fuck does it matter.


In an election between you and me I’d win.


nah, cause we're running in Texas-13
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
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The Jamesian Republic
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Founded: Apr 28, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:19 pm

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:anyway, the supreme court decided on West Virginia v EPA, so I guess now agencies can't make policies unless congress specifically tells them they can or something. what fun. I see the GOP's plan to hamstring the federal government into uselessness is underway.


Ironic considering Nixon helped create it…

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Finalis
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Ex-Nation

Postby Finalis » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:20 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:anyway, the supreme court decided on West Virginia v EPA, so I guess now agencies can't make policies unless congress specifically tells them they can or something. what fun. I see the GOP's plan to hamstring the federal government into uselessness is underway.


Ironic considering Nixon helped create it…

i remember very well the gratitude that was shown to nixon for creating it
the end

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Tarsonis
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Founded: Sep 20, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Tarsonis » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:20 pm

Jewish Underground State wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
except crows

Crows are demons from hell so I don’t think they count.

This is why we made scarecrows.


Crows are noble and loyal creatures. you take care of them and they'll take care of you
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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The Jamesian Republic
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Founded: Apr 28, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:20 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
In an election between you and me I’d win.


nah, cause we're running in Texas-13


In other words impossible.

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