American Politics XIII: (Un)Lucky For Some

[Prima Scriptura]

an anti-worker progressive. imagine that.

how are you going to force people to work?

I’m not anti worker. I am merely against essential workers striking.

Essential workers also need to get paid and treaded fairly. They also shouldn’t have to work 16 hours a day.

[Finalis]

an irrelevant distinction. Dangerous machines are dangerous

a gun is more dangerous than a car (because it was designed to be), which is why a gun should be harder to get.

uhhh if i had to choose between being shot with a gun or being hit by a nearly 2,000 kilogram piece of metal going over 100 kilometers per hour... i know what i'd choose.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

a gun is more dangerous than a car (because it was designed to be), which is why a gun should be harder to get.

uhhh if i had to choose between being shot with a gun or being hit by a nearly 2,000 kilogram piece of metal going over 100 kilometers per hour... i know what i'd choose.

a gun is a targeted weapon that can be used as long as you have bullets. a car is a blunt weapon (it hits everyone in an area, which is not always what a killer wants) that only has so much inertia.

[The Black Forrest]

a gun is more dangerous than a car (because it was designed to be), which is why a gun should be harder to get.

You ever seen a car go 45 mph down a crowded sidewalk?

What a croc of shit lol

Ok. How many people have been run down by cars and how many people have been shot this year?

[Tarsonis]

a gun is more dangerous than a car (because it was designed to be), which is why a gun should be harder to get.

uhhh if i had to choose between being shot with a gun or being hit by a nearly 2,000 kilogram piece of metal going over 100 kilometers per hour... i know what i'd choose.

why choose?

[Finalis]

uhhh if i had to choose between being shot with a gun or being hit by a nearly 2,000 kilogram piece of metal going over 100 kilometers per hour... i know what i'd choose.

a gun is a targeted weapon that can be used as long as you have bullets. a car is a blunt weapon (it hits everyone in an area, which is not always what a killer wants) that only has so much inertia.

this does not address what i said. also, a blunt weapon that hits lots of people at once doing great damage sounds exactly like what a potential mass killer would want.

[Finalis]

uhhh if i had to choose between being shot with a gun or being hit by a nearly 2,000 kilogram piece of metal going over 100 kilometers per hour... i know what i'd choose.

why choose?

bruno wants to play

[San Lumen]

I have. I just assume loss in any election so I’m not disappointed by losing.

Sounds like a lousy way to exist.

Only in politics I assume whoever I support or want to win will lose. I no longer have any faith in the voting public or polls.

[Tarsonis]

uhhh if i had to choose between being shot with a gun or being hit by a nearly 2,000 kilogram piece of metal going over 100 kilometers per hour... i know what i'd choose.

a gun is a targeted weapon that can be used as long as you have bullets. a car is a blunt weapon (it hits everyone in an area, which is not always what a killer wants) that only has so much inertia.

That's why the killer presumably holds the gas peddle down.

[San Lumen]

I’m not anti worker. I am merely against essential workers striking.

Essential workers also need to get paid and treaded fairly. They also shouldn’t have to work 16 hours a day.

I do not disagree but they should not also endanger public safety by striking.

[Sordhau]

There wasn't anything to fix. The people who disagreed with them and stood in their way were racists. America is truly worse off without them.

And we're mostly without them because they starting infighting and killing each other. Granted, federal agents played a role in that, but a lot of the culpability for their fall is on themselves.

No, we're without them because Reagan disarmed them.

[Tarsonis]

Essential workers also need to get paid and treaded fairly. They also shouldn’t have to work 16 hours a day.

I do not disagree but they should not also endanger public safety by striking.

So they shouldn't have any leverage to negotiate with, thus bet the shit end of the stick everytime. And you wonder why we're saying you're anti-worker

[San Lumen]

I do not disagree but they should not also endanger public safety by striking.

So they shouldn't have any leverage to negotiate with, thus bet the shit end of the stick everytime. And you wonder why we're saying you're anti-worker

Yes its totally acceptable for the power to turn off for millions as bargaining chip but this coming from someone who would tell their constituents if they were Mayor or Governor to send pizza to striking workers when their is no power or food.

[Celritannia]

an anti-worker progressive. imagine that.

how are you going to force people to work?

I’m not anti worker. I am merely against essential workers striking.

Once again you spout elitist dogma. Workers striking is how we improve the working conditions and wages for the people who do the majority of the work.
Without striking, you would not have weekends, a 40-hour week, medical insurance, an end to child labour, etc.

[Celritannia]

Essential workers also need to get paid and treaded fairly. They also shouldn’t have to work 16 hours a day.

I do not disagree but they should not also endanger public safety by striking.

Forcing people to be overworked to the point of exhaustion, and lack of safety regulations for little pay is endangering public safety.
How do you fail to understand this?

[Celritannia]

So they shouldn't have any leverage to negotiate with, thus bet the shit end of the stick everytime. And you wonder why we're saying you're anti-worker

Yes its totally acceptable for the power to turn off for millions as bargaining chip but this coming from someone who would tell their constituents if they were Mayor or Governor to send pizza to striking workers when their is no power or food.

What absolute hyperbolic nonesense.

[Sordhau]

I’m not anti worker. I am merely against essential workers striking.

Once again you spout elitist dogma. Workers striking is how we improve the working conditions and wages for the people who do the majority of the work.
Without striking, you would not have weekends, a 40-hour week, medical insurance, an end to child labour, etc.

Lumen doesn't have any of those things. He doesn't work.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I’m not anti worker. I am merely against essential workers striking.

If they all responded by saying "We quit," would you use the power of the state to prevent them from quitting?

And if they try to flee, would you send special patrols after them?

[San Lumen]

Once again you spout elitist dogma. Workers striking is how we improve the working conditions and wages for the people who do the majority of the work.
Without striking, you would not have weekends, a 40-hour week, medical insurance, an end to child labour, etc.

Lumen doesn't have any of those things. He doesn't work.

A complete and utter lie.

[Patoro]

My fault? The party supports gay marriage. Your just happy at the idea of me and millions of others being second class citizens. There will be hell to pay if your lot comes for my community's rights.

The Democratic Party doesn't care about gay marriage. The Democratic Party cares about fundraising from corporations, wealthy donors, and cutting their taxes. You keep voting for the same status quo candidates who take money from corporations and you're going to lose your legal right to marriage. This is absolutely your fault for voting for corrupt establishment candidates. You complain about the status quo but do nothing to actually challenge the status quo and this is what you get for contributing to corruption.

Bullshit

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

Opposing Queers (in ANY way) makes you a Authoritarian or Nazi! (ONLY those ACCEPTING Queers COMPLETELY can argue ABOUT Queer Issues!)

[Dylar]

The Democratic Party doesn't care about gay marriage. The Democratic Party cares about fundraising from corporations, wealthy donors, and cutting their taxes. You keep voting for the same status quo candidates who take money from corporations and you're going to lose your legal right to marriage. This is absolutely your fault for voting for corrupt establishment candidates. You complain about the status quo but do nothing to actually challenge the status quo and this is what you get for contributing to corruption.

Bullshit

no, he's actually right this time

[Luminesa]

My fault? The party supports gay marriage. Your just happy at the idea of me and millions of others being second class citizens. There will be hell to pay if your lot comes for my community's rights.

The Democratic Party doesn't care about gay marriage. The Democratic Party cares about fundraising from corporations, wealthy donors, and cutting their taxes. You keep voting for the same status quo candidates who take money from corporations and you're going to lose your legal right to marriage. This is absolutely your fault for voting for corrupt establishment candidates. You complain about the status quo but do nothing to actually challenge the status quo and this is what you get for contributing to corruption.

TFW he makes a point.

[Luminesa]

I just realized that ya'll dug this stuff up from literal Page 2.

May God have mercy on your souls.

[Ulajhan]

I just realized that ya'll dug this stuff up from literal Page 2.

May God have mercy on your souls.

It's all cycles in debate forums.

This has all happened before and will happen again.