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Would you accept the SC position? How would you play it?

Yes (good pay, job security, the power to alter the law, sign me up), I would be fair and objective
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37%
Yes, I would try to informally legislate in accordance with my politics
49
41%
No (I am not worthy/the negatives outweigh the positives/it’s a boring job)
26
22%
 
Total votes : 119

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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:29 am

I take the job.

Try for a threesome with Kagen and Barrett. Cause I am a conciliator that way
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:01 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yes I absolutely would take the job. We need some moderation on the court.

You aren't a moderate though. Your politics are insane.


What about my politics?
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Postby Port Caverton » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:18 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You aren't a moderate though. Your politics are insane.


What about my politics?

Your politics are very centrist, so they're very calm
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:20 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You aren't a moderate though. Your politics are insane.


What about my politics?

Don't ask questions you don't want the answer too.
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PAVLRT
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Postby PAVLRT » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:33 am

Port Caverton wrote:I will use the position to force Biden to invade Canada

The Canadians won't be laughing when we steal all there Timhorton's and start making Poutine for ourselves

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Postby Informed Consent » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:55 am

Ethel mermania wrote:I take the job.

Try for a threesome with Kagen and Barrett. Cause I am a conciliator that way

Probably the most noble motivation for an aspirant to the position in recent history.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:57 am

Ethel mermania wrote:I take the job.

Try for a threesome with Kagen and Barrett. Cause I am a conciliator that way


I see that Gorsuch has competition.
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Postby Polozenia Zesuplane Luzanii Gornej » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:04 am

I would propably accept it to make big mess which would be propably result of my trying to legislate various things ....
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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:22 am

I accept, US Supreme Court Justice, GMS Alberto, sounds awesome. President of the USA, Cuba or leader of any nations sounds awesome too. I will interpret all laws based on my right wing, religious, conservative, republican nationalists views, based on the constitution, not based on leftist, liberal, democrat, progressives, and real leftists as Therm calls them, views, based on the constitution.

I will be great friends and best friends with Clarence Thomas and his wife Ginni, I will hang out with Brett Kavanaugh and have a few beers with together. on me and on him. with something to eat. Clarence Thomas and I will be the 2 most conservative Justices on the US Supreme Court.
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:43 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I take the job.

Try for a threesome with Kagen and Barrett. Cause I am a conciliator that way


I see that Gorsuch has competition.


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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:36 pm

I'll accept the job, but only so I can crack open a cold one during my confirmation hearings.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:17 pm

Major-Tom wrote:I'll accept the job, but only so I can crack open a cold one during my confirmation hearings.

Me, you and Kavanaugh, a few cold ones on me any time after a court case, with Pizza.

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Postby Orlesian States » Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:24 pm

I would not accept. Perhaps my apolitical stance could impose impartiality, and an overall neutral stance, but I would be standing on the Supreme Court as a technical 'centrist' at that point, because I would you know, have to do my job.

Perhaps it would be nice to make things more balanced, but I'm unsure.
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Postby Torisakia » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:16 pm

Yes because I love having the ability to control other people and destroy their livelihoods and face no repercussions.

Actually in that case I would just become a politician.
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Postby The Toran Republic » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:23 pm

I'd accept it if I could replace one of the more conservative judges. My rulings would be based on the simple concept of "fully grown adults should be able to live their lives as they choose within reason". In other words, rulings that infringe too much into people's persona lives would be anathema.

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Postby Free Algerstonia » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:26 pm

i'll join just so that i can filibuster any leftist court filing that might be voted in favor of the leftists
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:57 pm

Torisakia wrote:Yes because I love having the ability to control other people and destroy their livelihoods and face no repercussions.

Actually in that case I would just become a politician.


You want to wade through the election muck?

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:03 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:i'll join just so that i can filibuster any leftist court filing that might be voted in favor of the leftists

I will vote the conservative way with you and Clarence Thomas.

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Torisakia
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Postby Torisakia » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:49 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Yes because I love having the ability to control other people and destroy their livelihoods and face no repercussions.

Actually in that case I would just become a politician.


You want to wade through the election muck?

Sure.
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Postby Jabberwocky » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:52 pm

No SC for me. I'd have to come out of retirement. No way.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:57 pm

Jabberwocky wrote:No SC for me. I'd have to come out of retirement. No way.


You’re spending your retirement days on NSG?

How the times have changed.

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Postby North Jus Intius » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:57 pm

I would immediately start acquiring large amounts of cash to have my more conservative fellow justices assassinated, along with most of the GOP, so no, I wouldn't accept the position.
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Postby Kannap » Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:14 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider the following hypothetical:

It is possible for you to be instantly inserted as a Supreme Court Justice. The American public will magically accept this. Your colleagues on the SC will also accept this.

You’ll receive all the job benefits of being on the SC as well as the power and responsibilities. Do you want it?


I don't want it, but I can't help but feel like your hypothetical doesn't care about my feelings and I'm magically in this position regardless.

Infected Mushroom wrote:You’ll have the clerks and the support system to help you research legal issues etc

If you do accept the job


Sure

Infected Mushroom wrote:would you rule fairly, objectively, and impartially…


I would, in my opinion, rule fairly

Infected Mushroom wrote:or would you allow progressive politics to influence your rulings (focusing on results over the law)


Ruling fairly, of course, means legislating progressive policies from the bench and granting the people civil and human rights that they are entitled to.

Infected Mushroom wrote:hence taking expansive interpretations of what the Constitution says and covers while there was no way in the 18th century that the Founding Fathers would have agreed with you that this was covered?


Who gives a shit what the founding fathers think? They're dead, what're they going to do?
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:23 am

Kannap wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider the following hypothetical:

It is possible for you to be instantly inserted as a Supreme Court Justice. The American public will magically accept this. Your colleagues on the SC will also accept this.

You’ll receive all the job benefits of being on the SC as well as the power and responsibilities. Do you want it?


I don't want it, but I can't help but feel like your hypothetical doesn't care about my feelings and I'm magically in this position regardless.

Infected Mushroom wrote:You’ll have the clerks and the support system to help you research legal issues etc

If you do accept the job


Sure

Infected Mushroom wrote:would you rule fairly, objectively, and impartially…


I would, in my opinion, rule fairly

Infected Mushroom wrote:or would you allow progressive politics to influence your rulings (focusing on results over the law)


Ruling fairly, of course, means legislating progressive policies from the bench and granting the people civil and human rights that they are entitled to.

Infected Mushroom wrote:hence taking expansive interpretations of what the Constitution says and covers while there was no way in the 18th century that the Founding Fathers would have agreed with you that this was covered?


Who gives a shit what the founding fathers think? They're dead, what're they going to do?

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Postby Forsher » Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:33 am

Oh, yeah, I'd definitely take the gig. Great job security, solid pay and no oversight, what's not to like?

As to how SCOTUS Justice Forsher would rule? With an iron fist, obviously. The first step, naturally, is to make all the other justices dance to my own tune. Since they're all extremely aged persons, that seems easy enough. Just bake them cookies and shit, right? And once they're my stooges, I guess I slowly force the US Constitution to just agree with my politics.

If, however, the SCOTUS Justices have stronger wills than I anticipate, I guess I just have to call 'em as I see 'em, right? Well, I could, like, read the US Constitution, but the reality is that I think most questions that come to SCOTUS aren't matters of law at all, but political questions. So, I'll prefix all my opinions with that, and I'll berate the plaintiffs/appellants/respondents/whatevers wherever possible on these grounds. That being said, insofar as being a SCOTUS Justice is equivalent to being on a legislature, I will absolutely do my job and make up some bullshit to coerce the text of the US Constitution to agree with my politics.

I will then make sure to die in office so I never have to read any retrospectives on my career, as is also my duty as a SCOTUS Justice.
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