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What do you think about the legalization of marijuana?

Postby Atlantic Federalist Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:29 am

Honestly my opinion is totally against it but seeing that different people have different thoughts I decided to post this here...

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:46 am

Usually you should flesh out your argument a little bit about why you don't like it being legal.

I support the legalization.

Most Americans want it. Legalization allows tax dollars to be generated by it instead of going to organized crime .
The harms caused simply not so bad that it should be criminalized, criminalization of marijuana causes more harm than having it legal
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Postby Atlantic Federalist Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:49 am

Ethel mermania wrote:Usually you should flesh out your argument a little bit about why you don't like it being legal.

I support the legalization.

Most Americans want it. Legalization allows tax dollars to be generated by it instead of going to organized crime .
The harms caused simply not so bad that it should be criminalized, criminalization of marijuana causes more harm than having it legal


I actually have a different thought. With taxes, marijuana would be more expensive and certainly the dealers would have lower prices because of the traffic, so it would end up, in my view, would feed even more the coffers of criminal organizations. Long-term damage can be irreversible.
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Postby Atlantic Federalist Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:50 am

Psychotic disorders (such as hallucinations, severe insomnia, and feelings of intense distress) are more common among people who use marijuana
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Postby Atlantic Federalist Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:51 am

health damage from marijuana
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:55 am

Atlantic Federalist Republic wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Usually you should flesh out your argument a little bit about why you don't like it being legal.

I support the legalization.

Most Americans want it. Legalization allows tax dollars to be generated by it instead of going to organized crime .
The harms caused simply not so bad that it should be criminalized, criminalization of marijuana causes more harm than having it legal


I actually have a different thought. With taxes, marijuana would be more expensive and certainly the dealers would have lower prices because of the traffic, so it would end up, in my view, would feed even more the coffers of criminal organizations. Long-term damage can be irreversible.


Every dollar spent on legal weed is one dollar less spent on organized crimes product.

Everything has long term consequences, eat to much meat, you die. Marijuanas are not that bad
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Postby Atlantic Federalist Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:04 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Atlantic Federalist Republic wrote:
I actually have a different thought. With taxes, marijuana would be more expensive and certainly the dealers would have lower prices because of the traffic, so it would end up, in my view, would feed even more the coffers of criminal organizations. Long-term damage can be irreversible.


Every dollar spent on legal weed is one dollar less spent on organized crimes product.

Everything has long term consequences, eat to much meat, you die. Marijuanas are not that bad



yes but it turns out that marijuana users end up going to other drugs like heroin and cocaine
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:07 am

Atlantic Federalist Republic wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Every dollar spent on legal weed is one dollar less spent on organized crimes product.

Everything has long term consequences, eat to much meat, you die. Marijuanas are not that bad



yes but it turns out that marijuana users end up going to other drugs like heroin and cocaine


Not really. Some do yes, The vast majority of marijuana users don't. Alcohol is the most common gateway drug.
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Postby Atlantic Federalist Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:07 am

besides, I think that with the legalization of the purchase of marijuana it could somehow go into the hands of minors or even children
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Postby Atlantic Federalist Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:08 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Atlantic Federalist Republic wrote:

yes but it turns out that marijuana users end up going to other drugs like heroin and cocaine


Not really. Some do yes, The vast majority of marijuana users don't. Alcohol is the most common gateway drug.


yea but
a large number of people migrate to more lethal drugs as well
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:10 am

All drugs should be legal imo. Marijuana especially because it's cool and not very dangerous, but punishing people for being addicted to more dangerous things seems kinda pointless and counterproductive.
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Postby Mossadeghist Iran » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:11 am

Alcala-Cordel wrote:All drugs should be legal imo. Marijuana especially because it's cool and not very dangerous, but punishing people for being addicted to more dangerous things seems kinda pointless and counterproductive.


That and those in prison strictly for drugs should all be pardoned with all civil rights restored.
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Postby Atlantic Federalist Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:11 am

Alcala-Cordel wrote:All drugs should be legal imo. Marijuana especially because it's cool and not very dangerous, but punishing people for being addicted to more dangerous things seems kinda pointless and counterproductive.


Have you ever thought about how many families are destroyed by drugs? how many die from drugs? in how many are hospitalized because of drugs?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:14 am

Atlantic Federalist Republic wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Usually you should flesh out your argument a little bit about why you don't like it being legal.

I support the legalization.

Most Americans want it. Legalization allows tax dollars to be generated by it instead of going to organized crime .
The harms caused simply not so bad that it should be criminalized, criminalization of marijuana causes more harm than having it legal


I actually have a different thought. With taxes, marijuana would be more expensive and certainly the dealers would have lower prices because of the traffic, so it would end up, in my view, would feed even more the coffers of criminal organizations. Long-term damage can be irreversible.

People will pay for convenience. A few extra dollars for a bag of weed is worth it to be able to get it from a store instead of having to conduct a criminal transaction with a drug dealer.

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Postby Atlantic Federalist Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:17 am

Ifreann wrote:
Atlantic Federalist Republic wrote:
I actually have a different thought. With taxes, marijuana would be more expensive and certainly the dealers would have lower prices because of the traffic, so it would end up, in my view, would feed even more the coffers of criminal organizations. Long-term damage can be irreversible.

People will pay for convenience. A few extra dollars for a bag of weed is worth it to be able to get it from a store instead of having to conduct a criminal transaction with a drug dealer.


this wouldn't work in poor countries with high crime rates but in other circumstances it makes sense
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:37 am

Legalising weed takes money out of the hands of criminal and terrorist networks.

Legalising weed so that it is sold in shops with some kind of regulation means it is less likely to get into the hands of the very young, and also makes it less likely that weed smokers will come into contact with other drugs than they would if they buy from dealers.

Legalising weed makes it less likely that weed smokers meet criminals.

Legalising weed removes a huge burden and expense from the police, courts, and prisons.

Legalising weed provides a source of tax revenue.

Legalising weed removes the naughty thrill of doing something illegal.

Legalising weed reduces the number of fires caused by illegal cannabis factories, and reduces the cost of electricity being stolen.

Legalising weed stops people being stigmatised with criminal records for something trivial.

Clearly smoking anything has some health risks, but that is personal choice, most of the societal harms from drugs are a result of them being illegal.
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Postby Hispida » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:44 am

all drugs should be at the very least decriminalized imo
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Postby Thomasi » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:49 am

Marijuana yes completely legalize.

All other illegal drugs decriminalize them. Except Fent which should be a life sentence for anyone caught selling anything with it in.

Federal prohibition clearly violates the constitution as congress does not have that power.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:18 am

Thomasi wrote:Marijuana yes completely legalize.

All other illegal drugs decriminalize them. Except Fent which should be a life sentence for anyone caught selling anything with it in.

Federal prohibition clearly violates the constitution as congress does not have that power.

So much for the general welfare clause.
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Postby Page » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:59 am

If you don't think selling drugs should be legal or at least decriminalized, you're wrong but that's okay. If you don't think personal possession and personal consumption of drugs should be legal or at least decriminalized, you're a bad person.
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Postby Page » Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:02 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Thomasi wrote:Marijuana yes completely legalize.

All other illegal drugs decriminalize them. Except Fent which should be a life sentence for anyone caught selling anything with it in.

Federal prohibition clearly violates the constitution as congress does not have that power.

So much for the general welfare clause.


Would it be constitutional to force women to dress in burqa-like clothes provided that the reasoning was not religious but pertained to thinking it would stop women from being raped?

You can frame any tyranny as pertaining to welfare.
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Postby Atlantic Federalist Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:10 am

Page wrote:If you don't think selling drugs should be legal or at least decriminalized, you're wrong but that's okay. If you don't think personal possession and personal consumption of drugs should be legal or at least decriminalized, you're a bad person.


I said keep respect
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:11 am

Page wrote:If you don't think selling drugs should be legal or at least decriminalized, you're wrong but that's okay. If you don't think personal possession and personal consumption of drugs should be legal or at least decriminalized, you're a bad person.


While meth really does help a lot of people, in the wrong hands its very dangerous stuff not only to the abuser but those around them. I am ok with keeping that out of the hands of the general public. But as previously discussed I am 7n favor of most access to drugs to be legal.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:13 am

Atlantic Federalist Republic wrote:
Page wrote:If you don't think selling drugs should be legal or at least decriminalized, you're wrong but that's okay. If you don't think personal possession and personal consumption of drugs should be legal or at least decriminalized, you're a bad person.


I said keep respect

If you have a complaint with the post, post it in moderation. While I am not a mod, i am not seeing how page broke any site rule.
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:14 am

I support it.
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