"What are your pronouns?"

[Australian rePublic]

The issue with "they/them" pronouns is that they only work in languages which allow for gender neutrality. Languages such as Spanish, Arabic, French, Hebrew, Italian, etc. Some of those on that list are amongst the most widely spoken in the world. By demanding that a significant proportion of the world refer to you in a way that's impossible in their language is well, yea, it ain't gonna get you anywhere. Unless you specifically include Arabic, French and Spanish, amongst others (which so happen to be amongst the largest languages in the world), and if you do exclude them, then really, what's the point?

That kinda sounds like you think it's some top-down demand, or one exclusively from english people...

Anyways, Enby people even in those languages find way to arrange themselves, including neutral referral.
German has the same issue, so we just stole "They/Them" and kept it unchanged or germanized it to "Dey/Deren" (with Deren actually already being an existing word- being an obscure genitive singular of the feminine article Die and genitive plural of all three articles Der, Die and Das)
Even other languages will have such arrangements. Language is shaped by those who speak it, not by those who preach it.

Facinating

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The issue with "they/them" pronouns is that they only work in languages which allow for gender neutrality. Languages such as Spanish, Arabic, French, Hebrew, Italian, etc. Some of those on that list are amongst the most widely spoken in the world. By demanding that a significant proportion of the world refer to you in a way that's impossible in their language is well, yea, it ain't gonna get you anywhere. Unless you specifically include Arabic, French and Spanish, amongst others (which so happen to be amongst the largest languages in the world), and if you do exclude them, then really, what's the point?

It's on Spanish speaking trans folks to figure out how to do pronouns in Spanish, Arabs to figure it out in Arabic, etc. They works perfectly fine in English. Nobody is responsible for a universal solution.

[Countesia]

He/Him/They

If you ask my sister its dick/head

[Aussie Australia]

Oh yeah i forgot it's completely normal to want to chop your penis off, how silly of me

Yeah you're right people have been mentally sick for ages.

Read the rules, and stop trolling. Unofficial warning this time, but don't expect such leniency if you repeat this. There are ways of arguing your case that don't involve deliberately trying to wind people up.

Did you know you're a twat

[Santheres]

Read the rules, and stop trolling. Unofficial warning this time, but don't expect such leniency if you repeat this. There are ways of arguing your case that don't involve deliberately trying to wind people up.

Did you know you're a twat

*** Warned for flaming ***

[Thomasi]

Just a friendly reminder 599/600s of every person on earth is XX her/she and XY him/his/he. So when someone says you should change the English or Spanish language remember its for 1/600th of people.

When they ask you to say "birthing persons" its for 1/1200 people.

So yeah if you are wondering why pronouns are being asked everywhere even on government jobs, that's why.

[Armeattla]

Just a friendly reminder 599/600s of every person on earth is XX her/she and XY him/his/he. So when someone says you should change the English or Spanish language remember its for 1/600th of people.

When they ask you to say "birthing persons" its for 1/1200 people.

So yeah if you are wondering why pronouns are being asked everywhere even on government jobs, that's why.

Which is already wrong on the premise of intersex people. Which are 1.7% (so almost 1 out of 50). At least a third of them are Gender Questioning.
Trans people are also estimated to be 1%.
So even with overlap in mind, it's still 2.something%
Which still is 1 out of 50, not 1 out of 600.
And that number is probably gonna rise a bit.

What you might be referring to is the percentage of non-binary people.
Which assumes only Enby people use anything beside he/him and she/her.
And you might say that is a tiny percentage, even a tiny percentage results in substantial numbers.

[Ifreann]

Just a friendly reminder 599/600s of every person on earth is XX her/she and XY him/his/he. So when someone says you should change the English or Spanish language remember its for 1/600th of people.

When they ask you to say "birthing persons" its for 1/1200 people.

So yeah if you are wondering why pronouns are being asked everywhere even on government jobs, that's why.

Even if the numbers are accurate, who cares?

[Dazchan]

The issue with "they/them" pronouns is that they only work in languages which allow for gender neutrality. Languages such as Spanish, Arabic, French, Hebrew, Italian, etc. Some of those on that list are amongst the most widely spoken in the world. By demanding that a significant proportion of the world refer to you in a way that's impossible in their language is well, yea, it ain't gonna get you anywhere. Unless you specifically include Arabic, French and Spanish, amongst others (which so happen to be amongst the largest languages in the world), and if you do exclude them, then really, what's the point?

They and them are English words, used by English-speaking people in English-speaking countries. Why would it matter if they don't work in other languages?

[Thomasi]

The issue with "they/them" pronouns is that they only work in languages which allow for gender neutrality. Languages such as Spanish, Arabic, French, Hebrew, Italian, etc. Some of those on that list are amongst the most widely spoken in the world. By demanding that a significant proportion of the world refer to you in a way that's impossible in their language is well, yea, it ain't gonna get you anywhere. Unless you specifically include Arabic, French and Spanish, amongst others (which so happen to be amongst the largest languages in the world), and if you do exclude them, then really, what's the point?

They and them are English words, used by English-speaking people in English-speaking countries. Why would it matter if they don't work in other languages?

because people need to understand how offensive Latinx is to Spanish speakers basically English colonalism on other languages trying to "create" gender neutral terms

[Isla de Tesoros]

They and them are English words, used by English-speaking people in English-speaking countries. Why would it matter if they don't work in other languages?

because people need to understand how offensive Latinx is to Spanish speakers basically English colonalism on other languages trying to "create" gender neutral terms

Doesn't le funny Argentine man have a video talking about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yfGQivroE&t

[Thomasi]

because people need to understand how offensive Latinx is to Spanish speakers basically English colonalism on other languages trying to "create" gender neutral terms

Doesn't le funny Argentine man have a video talking about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yfGQivroE&t

Okay so I was half right, Latinx is an unpronousable word so they don't use it but they do have Latine which is used for Gender Neutral.

[Senkaku]

Doesn't le funny Argentine man have a video talking about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yfGQivroE&t

Okay so I was half right, Latinx is an unpronousable word so they don't use it but they do have Latine which is used for Gender Neutral.

it's not unpronounceable, but Latine is definitely better in terms of both aesthetic and function-- I don't think calling Latinx "offensive" makes much sense though unless you're talking about the kind of people who want to enforce its exclusive use, it's only natural Anglos would come up with a slightly different word at first

[Diarcesia]

Okay so I was half right, Latinx is an unpronousable word so they don't use it but they do have Latine which is used for Gender Neutral.

it's not unpronounceable, but Latine is definitely better in terms of both aesthetic and function-- I don't think calling Latinx "offensive" makes much sense though unless you're talking about the kind of people who want to enforce its exclusive use, it's only natural Anglos would come up with a slightly different word at first

I'm more partial to Latin@

[Armeattla]

because people need to understand how offensive Latinx is to Spanish speakers basically English colonalism on other languages trying to "create" gender neutral terms

Doesn't le funny Argentine man have a video talking about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yfGQivroE&t

I did not expect the based Argentine man to be posted on this forum.

[Luziyca]

I don't think pronouns are more trouble than they're worth: as a he/him, it is worth asking others that question, particularly if you are getting to know someone more deeply than a single conversation or two, so that you will know who you are supposed to address someone as. The embrace of singular they, in my opinion, is a good thing, and I do feel that it is a good neutral term that isn't he/her, or s/he.

[Abarri]

Okay so I was half right, Latinx is an unpronousable word so they don't use it but they do have Latine which is used for Gender Neutral.

it's not unpronounceable, but Latine is definitely better in terms of both aesthetic and function-- I don't think calling Latinx "offensive" makes much sense though unless you're talking about the kind of people who want to enforce its exclusive use, it's only natural Anglos would come up with a slightly different word at first

I support this usage. (But then again, I'm not transgender and not a native speaker of Spanish)

[Ifreann]

They and them are English words, used by English-speaking people in English-speaking countries. Why would it matter if they don't work in other languages?

because people need to understand how offensive Latinx is to Spanish speakers basically English colonalism on other languages trying to "create" gender neutral terms

That's not a pronoun.

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Latin-equis: Meh.

Latin-ex: Ugh.

La-tinks: *throws an angry pregnant street cat at your face*

[Armeattla]

Latin-equis: Meh.

Latin-ex: Ugh.

La-tinks: *throws an angry pregnant street cat at your face*

I want to see that one for "Womxn" instead.
liberals are really good at inserting some random x somewhere where it makes no fucking sense

[Risottia]

Language is shaped by those who speak it, not by those who preach it.

I frankly doubt that the majority of the speakers of, let's say, Italian, are going to adapt to the preferences of those who preach the use of genderless pronouns.

[Ifreann]

Language is shaped by those who speak it, not by those who preach it.

I frankly doubt that the majority of the speakers of, let's say, Italian, are going to adapt to the preferences of those who preach the use of genderless pronouns.

Sure you will.

[Risottia]

I frankly doubt that the majority of the speakers of, let's say, Italian, are going to adapt to the preferences of those who preach the use of genderless pronouns.

Sure you will.

Not that Armeattla says.

[Thomasi]

Latin-equis: Meh.

Latin-ex: Ugh.

La-tinks: *throws an angry pregnant street cat at your face*

I want to see that one for "Womxn" instead.
liberals are really good at inserting some random x somewhere where it makes no fucking sense

More like SJWs though its a great way for employers to weed out applicants who would be calling HR every day over being "offended" by a joke or conversation. Literally if someone put other or anything than Male/Female or man/woman they wouldn't be hired.

[Ifreann]

I want to see that one for "Womxn" instead.
liberals are really good at inserting some random x somewhere where it makes no fucking sense

More like SJWs though its a great way for employers to weed out applicants who would be calling HR every day over being "offended" by a joke or conversation. Literally if someone put other or anything than Male/Female or man/woman they wouldn't be hired.

Be sure and tell the voters how you support workplace discrimination.