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How do you feel about Mifepristone?

It should be freely available!
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51%
Prescription only!
14
9%
It needs more testing before approval!
6
4%
Ban it!
42
26%
Let the states decide!
5
3%
SATAN-PENGUINS 2024!!!
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:25 am

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Wayneactia wrote:Smells like a Republican in Democrats clothing....


Nope I am simply an Economic Progressive, I want to fix the economy, environment and political system. Woke-ism is stupid and being shoved into every aspect of peoples lives, and most people hate it. Most people are economically left, focus on that.

What is it with people? If you don't like "woke-ism" then fucking ignore it. The primary problem with society in general right now, is an inability for people to mind their own fucking business. I swear it is being bred out of every generation. If your not a part of the LGBT community then it doesn't concern you, so don't worry about it. It's not hard.
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:27 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
Nope I am simply an Economic Progressive, I want to fix the economy, environment and political system. Woke-ism is stupid and being shoved into every aspect of peoples lives, and most people hate it. Most people are economically left, focus on that.

What is it with people? If you don't like "woke-ism" then fucking ignore it. The primary problem with society in general right now, is an inability for people to mind their own fucking business. I swear it is being bred out of every generation. If your not a part of the LGBT community then it doesn't concern you, so don't worry about it. It's not hard.


But harassing anyone who's different scores bonus points in the afterlife!
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:28 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
Nope I am simply an Economic Progressive, I want to fix the economy, environment and political system. Woke-ism is stupid and being shoved into every aspect of peoples lives, and most people hate it. Most people are economically left, focus on that.

What is it with people? If you don't like "woke-ism" then fucking ignore it. The primary problem with society in general right now, is an inability for people to mind their own fucking business. I swear it is being bred out of every generation. If your not a part of the LGBT community then it doesn't concern you, so don't worry about it. It's not hard.

My dude's campaign website is one page, I'm thinking he badly needs court controversy to get enough donations to pay for any of those "Learn More" buttons to get actual functionality.

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Postby Diuhon » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:28 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
Nope I am simply an Economic Progressive, I want to fix the economy, environment and political system. Woke-ism is stupid and being shoved into every aspect of peoples lives, and most people hate it. Most people are economically left, focus on that.

What is it with people? If you don't like "woke-ism" then fucking ignore it. The primary problem with society in general right now, is an inability for people to mind their own fucking business. I swear it is being bred out of every generation. If your not a part of the LGBT community then it doesn't concern you, so don't worry about it. It's not hard.

"but i'm being forced to smile at pixelated lesbian couples although they're an affront to my bigotry! truly, i'm oppressed!"

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Postby Thomasi » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:29 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
Nope I am simply an Economic Progressive, I want to fix the economy, environment and political system. Woke-ism is stupid and being shoved into every aspect of peoples lives, and most people hate it. Most people are economically left, focus on that.

What is it with people? If you don't like "woke-ism" then fucking ignore it. The primary problem with society in general right now, is an inability for people to mind their own fucking business. I swear it is being bred out of every generation. If your not a part of the LGBT community then it doesn't concern you, so don't worry about it. It's not hard.


It's hard to ignore when you are watching a tv show like survivor and every episode they have to talk about how hard life is for them because they are part of X/Y/Z group and shit. Like why isn't representation enough without needing to turn every single show into a talks how about issues. We can't just get away from it. Trust me if people only did "woke-ism" within their groups then no one would care, its when they try to get society to embrace more than simple equality.

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Postby Floofybit » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:31 am

"Oh no! Now we have to drive 7 hours to get an abortion! What'll I ever do?" Just be happy the power is in the states like it should be. If it was in the government the government might have banned it on all states and you'd have to find your way to Canada.
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Postby Thomasi » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:32 am

Diuhon wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:What is it with people? If you don't like "woke-ism" then fucking ignore it. The primary problem with society in general right now, is an inability for people to mind their own fucking business. I swear it is being bred out of every generation. If your not a part of the LGBT community then it doesn't concern you, so don't worry about it. It's not hard.

"but i'm being forced to smile at pixelated lesbian couples although they're an affront to my bigotry! truly, i'm oppressed!"


I support representation in media, I don't support trying to change the language and definition and turning every form of entertainment into a discussion on political issues.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:34 am

© 2021 Your brand name

Lol, its one page and you didn't even finish it. What a joke.

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Postby WayNeacTia » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:34 am

Thomasi wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:What is it with people? If you don't like "woke-ism" then fucking ignore it. The primary problem with society in general right now, is an inability for people to mind their own fucking business. I swear it is being bred out of every generation. If your not a part of the LGBT community then it doesn't concern you, so don't worry about it. It's not hard.


It's hard to ignore when you are watching a tv show like survivor and every episode they have to talk about how hard life is for them because they are part of X/Y/Z group and shit. Like why isn't representation enough without needing to turn every single show into a talks how about issues. We can't just get away from it. Trust me if people only did "woke-ism" within their groups then no one would care, its when they try to get society to embrace more than simple equality.

Well color me shocked. Television embraces something. Who the fuck would have seen that one coming. Societal progress needs to come to a screeching, fucking halt, because tv shows are talking about things.....
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:35 am

Floofybit wrote:"Oh no! Now we have to drive 7 hours to get an abortion! What'll I ever do?" Just be happy the power is in the states like it should be. If it was in the government the government might have banned it on all states and you'd have to find your way to Canada.


Why should someone have to drive several hours for medical treatment? Are you going to pay for their expenses?

Woman are going to die because of views like yours .
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:35 am

Floofybit wrote:"Oh no! Now we have to drive 7 hours to get an abortion! What'll I ever do?" Just be happy the power is in the states like it should be. If it was in the government the government might have banned it on all states and you'd have to find your way to Canada.

People are going to die because of this ruling.

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Postby Thomasi » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:36 am

Ifreann wrote:
© 2021 Your brand name

Lol, its one page and you didn't even finish it. What a joke.


Thank you for proving my point that you care more about what words people use than the economy. If I hadn't said anything about woke-ism you would be supporting my platform right now.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:36 am

Thomasi wrote:
Diuhon wrote:"but i'm being forced to smile at pixelated lesbian couples although they're an affront to my bigotry! truly, i'm oppressed!"


I support representation in media, I don't support trying to change the language and definition and turning every form of entertainment into a discussion on political issues.


Your reaction to the Kirk - Uhuru kiss would have been epic to behold.

But I notice you have dark skin. Would you have been allowed to own a TV in 1968?

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Postby Port Caverton » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:36 am

Diarcesia wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
my ilk? I am not a republican, I am an Economic Progressive, no one who supports me would be going after the Trans community, I simply pointed out the obesity that using the term "woman" somehow became insensitive.

Consider that Twitter progressives aren't the entirety of the social progressive demographic.

Twitter needs to be rendered illegal
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:37 am

Floofybit wrote:"Oh no! Now we have to drive 7 hours to get an abortion! What'll I ever do?" Just be happy the power is in the states like it should be. If it was in the government the government might have banned it on all states and you'd have to find your way to Canada.


This ruling allows the federal government to ban abortion if the federal government so chose. The ruling didn't put "the power" with the states, it just said abortions aren't protected by the constitution, with a nice little concurrence saying the court should get rid of the protection on gay marriage, contraceptives, sodomy, and any other case that used substantive due process.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:37 am

Floofybit wrote:"Oh no! Now we have to drive 7 hours to get an abortion! What'll I ever do?" Just be happy the power is in the states like it should be. If it was in the government the government might have banned it on all states and you'd have to find your way to Canada.

The States should have very limited powers in my opinion. In a country with over 300 million people, there should be a strong federal government. You are not 50 separate countries.
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Postby Diuhon » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:37 am

Floofybit wrote:"Oh no! Now we have to drive 7 hours to get an abortion! What'll I ever do?" Just be happy the power is in the states like it should be. If it was in the government the government might have banned it on all states and you'd have to find your way to Canada.

have you ever had a noose round your neck? i haven't either, but one must imagine the discomfort of having one to begin with, hm?

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Postby Thomasi » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:41 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
It's hard to ignore when you are watching a tv show like survivor and every episode they have to talk about how hard life is for them because they are part of X/Y/Z group and shit. Like why isn't representation enough without needing to turn every single show into a talks how about issues. We can't just get away from it. Trust me if people only did "woke-ism" within their groups then no one would care, its when they try to get society to embrace more than simple equality.

Well color me shocked. Television embraces something. Who the fuck would have seen that one coming. Societal progress needs to come to a screeching, fucking halt, because tv shows are talking about things.....


Canadian Big brother is just as diverse as American Big Brother and Survivor and guess what, they are able to show different cultures without bringing up the race/sexual orientation/gender identity of the contestants where, specifically on survivor somehow these become relevant.

The point is that the US should take Canada's approach to these issues, have inclusion, have discussion in appropriate settings and treat people equally. Equality is achieved when it doesn't have to be announced.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:41 am

Thomasi wrote:
Diuhon wrote:cool shit

there's a trans thread over here, full of people your ilk want dead

maybe ask them what they fucking think before you sharpen your fucking pointy stick that may or may not be a stand-in for your dick


my ilk? I am not a republican, I am an Economic Progressive, no one who supports me would be going after the Trans community, I simply pointed out the absurdity that using the term "woman" somehow became insensitive.


Meanwhile, in the really real world...
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Postby Floofybit » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:43 am

San Lumen wrote:
Floofybit wrote:"Oh no! Now we have to drive 7 hours to get an abortion! What'll I ever do?" Just be happy the power is in the states like it should be. If it was in the government the government might have banned it on all states and you'd have to find your way to Canada.


Why should someone have to drive several hours for medical treatment? Are you going to pay for their expenses?

Woman are going to die because of views like yours .

If you can't pay for the expenses, why are you having a kid? I'm pretty sure you'd notice the danger too lol
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Postby Floofybit » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:44 am

Diuhon wrote:
Floofybit wrote:"Oh no! Now we have to drive 7 hours to get an abortion! What'll I ever do?" Just be happy the power is in the states like it should be. If it was in the government the government might have banned it on all states and you'd have to find your way to Canada.

have you ever had a noose round your neck? i haven't either, but one must imagine the discomfort of having one to begin with, hm?

Don't know what your point is but sounds like a rugburn until you snap. Try to keep on topic?
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Postby Thomasi » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:44 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
I support representation in media, I don't support trying to change the language and definition and turning every form of entertainment into a discussion on political issues.


Your reaction to the Kirk - Uhuru kiss would have been epic to behold.

But I notice you have dark skin. Would you have been allowed to own a TV in 1968?


Yes because the civil rights act of 64 was passed lol. It would have been talked about at that time though, today its not, because equality in the realm of TV has been achieved (specifically with CBS now) it's not equality until society see's it as normal and no longer feels the need to bring it up.

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Postby The Human Confederation » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:44 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Thomasi wrote:
Nope I am simply an Economic Progressive, I want to fix the economy, environment and political system. Woke-ism is stupid and being shoved into every aspect of peoples lives, and most people hate it. Most people are economically left, focus on that.

What is it with people? If you don't like "woke-ism" then fucking ignore it. The primary problem with society in general right now, is an inability for people to mind their own fucking business. I swear it is being bred out of every generation. If your not a part of the LGBT community then it doesn't concern you, so don't worry about it. It's not hard.


I wish I could ignore it. My health class is taught by an extreme progressive, & she shoves it in our face every day. The class is 30% health, 70% politics. On top of this, I have to pretend to be a progressive to avoid the social death penalty from my friends.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:44 am

Floofybit wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why should someone have to drive several hours for medical treatment? Are you going to pay for their expenses?

Woman are going to die because of views like yours .

If you can't pay for the expenses, why are you having a kid? I'm pretty sure you'd notice the danger too lol


Sometimes pregnancy is unintentional. What about a rape or incest victim? What happens in serious complication with the pregnancy such as an ectopic pregnancy?

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Postby Diuhon » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:44 am

Thomasi wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Lol, its one page and you didn't even finish it. What a joke.


Thank you for proving my point that you care more about what words people use than the economy. If I hadn't said anything about woke-ism you would be supporting my platform right now.

who you are or think you are and how you wish to define yourself obviously are immaterial to your potential, but you obviously cannot unlock your full potential if you're forced to put yourself in a box to conform to others' expectations of what you must be, how you must act

you think millions of repressed, deadened souls will realize their full potential and contribute to humanity?

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