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What is your position on State Referenda enshrining Abortion as a constitutional right?

All states should do it! If any states haven't, they damn well need to!
231
53%
The states should raise the standards for passage to 60% or higher, where applicable!
33
8%
The state governments should do all they can to block these referenda!
120
28%
I for one welcome sugary oblivion! Ia! Ia! Cthulhu is a part of my balanced breakfast!
48
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Total votes : 432

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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:18 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:Im norwegian but we live in america and i hate it. so liberal. so "free". its disgusting

Consider moving to Blagoveshchensk then. I'm sure you'll enjoy having the Russian state doing all the hard thinking business for you.

i should actually
ive been wanting to join the russian army actually unironically im not a troll so dont get all riled up
i dont wanna die in a terrible nuclear war, so lets just end the war in ukraine and end this cold war and all be peaceful

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Postby Survivors of Yekaterinburg » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:18 am

Vassenor wrote:
Survivors of Yekaterinburg wrote:I absolutely agree with women having access to abortions.
I agree more with each state working that out for themselves.
I am absolutely thrilled with how this century all the progress is going to be made from the rights perspective. I wish I could read about it in history books.


Apparently rights being stripped away is progress now?


I've read all your posting history.

Im pretty sure this is the closest you've come to reality.

Good work vas!
But no, no rights were stripped here.

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Postby Untecna » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:19 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Untecna wrote:We have a two-party "democracy" that just has two capitalist sides arguing with each other over whether or not people should be oppressed, while the entire country is dealing with much more pressing matters.

We don't champion democracy.

yes you do and its fucking disgusting. you dont like it so its not democracy anymore? cringe. stop championing such a failed system!

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So... you from the shithole that's Blagoveshchensk? <.<

Im norwegian but we live in america and i hate it. so liberal. so "free". its disgusting

How do we champion democracy if we have corrupt politicians (lobbying is corruption) who do nothing all day but tweet and act like they're doing something while the country around them participates in screaming matches on online forums and in the streets about Trump and Biden and Clinton and Bush and Reagan and so on, and everyone always seems to ignore the problems of our society and the handling of our affairs, both internal and external?

Tell me.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:19 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Apparently rights being stripped away is progress now?

it is.

progress is submission to science, reason, anti-religion, atheism, and the state


You say while gloating over an anti-science movement's goals being forced through because God Says So.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:19 am

Survivors of Yekaterinburg wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Apparently rights being stripped away is progress now?


I've read all your posting history.

Im pretty sure this is the closest you've come to reality.

Good work vas!
But no, no rights were stripped here.


Right to privacy as enshrined in Roe. Right to control your own body.
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Postby Survivors of Yekaterinburg » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:19 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Survivors of Yekaterinburg wrote:I absolutely agree with women having access to abortions.
I agree more with each state working that out for themselves.
I am absolutely thrilled with how this century all the progress is going to be made from the rights perspective. I wish I could read about it in history books.

You are thrilled that the American South gets to reimpose slavery on people?


Im thrilled that the blacks get to shoot the slave owners and we can set a precedent on that.

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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:19 am

Vassenor wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:so dramatic boohooo


Is it really being dramatic if it's actually happening right now in the world?

Fears for US woman's life as abortion denied in Malta

Andrea and Jay never thought they'd be in this situation: praying that their baby daughter's heart stops beating before Andrea develops a deadly infection.

The couple, from the US, were on holiday in Malta when Andrea Prudente, who's 16-weeks pregnant, started losing blood. Doctors told her the placenta was partly detached and her pregnancy was no longer viable.

But the baby's heart was still beating - and in Malta this means that by law doctors cannot end the pregnancy.

For the past week, the couple have been stuck in a hospital room, waiting.

"We're sitting here with the understanding that if she goes into labour, then the hospital will engage. If the baby's heart stops, they will help with that. Other than that, they won't do anything," Jay Weeldreyer tells me over the phone.

His voice is tired and angry. He worries Andrea's condition could change rapidly at any time.

boohoo
take antibiotics
nature is taking its course
natural selection doesnt want your genes to continue
animals go through it all the tine
i dont wanna die in a terrible nuclear war, so lets just end the war in ukraine and end this cold war and all be peaceful

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:20 am

I’ve had this prepared since the draft opinion was released. So here is my six step plan for helping women in Post Roe America

1. Comprehensive Sex-Ed (Proportional to Grade Level also teach what abortion is and how it is performed and list the pros and cons)
2. Integrate self defense in PE
3. Widely available contraception
4. A legal defense system that actually brings justice and helps women escape from violent situations.
5. Adequate emotional and mental healthcare
6. Socioeconomic programs to help women in low income situations
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Postby Thomasi » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:20 am

Here is the official tweet from the Missouri Attorneys General triggering the abortion ban https://twitter.com/AGEricSchmitt/statu ... 2413944832

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Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:20 am

Page wrote:
Survivors of Yekaterinburg wrote:I agree more with each state working that out for themselves.


Like each state working out ending slavery for themselves, that sure worked out well!

Slavery in the South Shouldn't be Conflated to Abortion.

A life isn't property and I do not support my ancestors decision on that. I feel slavery ending is a good thing.
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Postby Survivors of Yekaterinburg » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:20 am

Vassenor wrote:
Survivors of Yekaterinburg wrote:
I've read all your posting history.

Im pretty sure this is the closest you've come to reality.

Good work vas!
But no, no rights were stripped here.


Right to privacy as enshrined in Roe. Right to control your own body.



The government doesn't give you rights. It can only interfere with them.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:20 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Is it really being dramatic if it's actually happening right now in the world?

Fears for US woman's life as abortion denied in Malta


boohoo
take antibiotics
nature is taking its course
natural selection doesnt want your genes to continue
animals go through it all the tine


How does antibiotics help when your baby has literally torn itself off the inside of your womb and you're now bleeding internally?
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Postby Untecna » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:20 am

By the looks of it, I reckon we have a 4chan user here.

Or two.

Maybe 20.

Should be expected in summer and with a thread like this.

*sigh* fucking shit
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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:20 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:I’ve had this prepared since the draft opinion was released. So here is my six step plan for helping women in Post Roe America

1. Comprehensive Sex-Ed (Proportional to Grade Level also teach what abortion is and how it is performed and list the pros and cons)
2. Integrate self defense in PE
3. Widely available contraception
4. A legal defense system that actually brings justice and helps women escape from violent situations.
5. Adequate emotional and mental healthcare
6. Socioeconomic programs to help women in low income situations

condoms are just cents
contraceptives are cheap af
people choose this for themselves
i dont wanna die in a terrible nuclear war, so lets just end the war in ukraine and end this cold war and all be peaceful

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Postby Page » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:22 am

Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:A life isn't property


If a woman's life isn't property then it's her right to control her own reproduction.
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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:22 am

Untecna wrote:By the looks of it, I reckon we have a 4chan user here.

Or two.

Maybe 20.

Should be expected in summer and with a thread like this.

*sigh* fucking shit

your mad you so accuse everyone of being a 4chan user
how pathetic
grow up, seriously.

roe v wade is unscientific and irrational
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Postby Port Caverton » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:22 am

Untecna wrote:By the looks of it, I reckon we have a 4chan user here.

Or two.

Maybe 20.

Should be expected in summer and with a thread like this.

*sigh* fucking shit

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Postby Barlyy » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:22 am

As Hispida has said -- doesn't this overturning violate the 14th amendment? Is this how shitty the Supreme Court has gotten to the point where they can say "fuck the law, I'm just gonna let states violate rights if they want"? That's upsetting to see. I used to look up to the US, but it seems like it's becoming just as dystopic as some Middle Eastern countries.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:22 am

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:22 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:I’ve had this prepared since the draft opinion was released. So here is my six step plan for helping women in Post Roe America

1. Comprehensive Sex-Ed (Proportional to Grade Level also teach what abortion is and how it is performed and list the pros and cons)
2. Integrate self defense in PE
3. Widely available contraception
4. A legal defense system that actually brings justice and helps women escape from violent situations.
5. Adequate emotional and mental healthcare
6. Socioeconomic programs to help women in low income situations

condoms are just cents
contraceptives are cheap af
people choose this for themselves


Contraceptives can fail even when used properly.
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Postby Untecna » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:22 am

Survivors of Yekaterinburg wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Right to privacy as enshrined in Roe. Right to control your own body.



The government doesn't give you rights. It can only interfere with them.

The makeup of our government would like to speak with you
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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:23 am

Vassenor wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:boohoo
take antibiotics
nature is taking its course
natural selection doesnt want your genes to continue
animals go through it all the tine


How does antibiotics help when your baby has literally torn itself off the inside of your womb and you're now bleeding internally?

youre right

So how about natural selection
Just like charles darwin taught humanity
i dont wanna die in a terrible nuclear war, so lets just end the war in ukraine and end this cold war and all be peaceful

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:23 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:I’ve had this prepared since the draft opinion was released. So here is my six step plan for helping women in Post Roe America

1. Comprehensive Sex-Ed (Proportional to Grade Level also teach what abortion is and how it is performed and list the pros and cons)
2. Integrate self defense in PE
3. Widely available contraception
4. A legal defense system that actually brings justice and helps women escape from violent situations.
5. Adequate emotional and mental healthcare
6. Socioeconomic programs to help women in low income situations

condoms are just cents
contraceptives are cheap af
people choose this for themselves


Roe is gone and by God The United States must do what is possible to keep women safe.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:23 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Untecna wrote:By the looks of it, I reckon we have a 4chan user here.

Or two.

Maybe 20.

Should be expected in summer and with a thread like this.

*sigh* fucking shit

your mad you so accuse everyone of being a 4chan user
how pathetic
grow up, seriously.

roe v wade is unscientific and irrational

how is it either of those in the slightest
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:23 am

Prima Scriptura wrote:Praise God!


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