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What is your position on State Referenda enshrining Abortion as a constitutional right?

All states should do it! If any states haven't, they damn well need to!
231
53%
The states should raise the standards for passage to 60% or higher, where applicable!
33
8%
The state governments should do all they can to block these referenda!
120
28%
I for one welcome sugary oblivion! Ia! Ia! Cthulhu is a part of my balanced breakfast!
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11%
 
Total votes : 432

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Libertyvilla
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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:46 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:okay and?
go to another state
maybe if biden lowered the gas prices it wouldnt be so expensice
or better yet learn to use a condon

Liberty is non-negotiable.

liberty to not use a condom or other contraceptive
thats just selfish
you need to suffer the consequences of not using a condom
i dont wanna die in a terrible nuclear war, so lets just end the war in ukraine and end this cold war and all be peaceful

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Thomasi
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Postby Thomasi » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:46 am

Hispida wrote:protestors are apparently gathering outside of the supreme court. hope they start rioting!!!

Thomasi wrote:Roe v Wade used the non existent right to privacy.

I support this because I am pro life progressive.

glad to know you support the murders of millions of women


Murder? This saves lives not ends them.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:47 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Hispida wrote:more than half the country will now ban abortion

yeah "not a big deal" my ass

okay and?
go to another state
maybe if biden lowered the gas prices it wouldnt be so expensice
or better yet learn to use a condon

Otoh you can always move to PRC and get a personalised experience of their lese majeste laws.
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:48 am

Thomasi wrote:
Hispida wrote:protestors are apparently gathering outside of the supreme court. hope they start rioting!!!


glad to know you support the murders of millions of women


Murder? This saves lives not ends them.

that's just straight up wrong. women in affected states are now over 2.6 million times more likely to die from a faulty abortion.

plus, y'know, fetuses aren't people, but that's for the abortion thread.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:48 am

Thomasi wrote:
Hispida wrote:protestors are apparently gathering outside of the supreme court. hope they start rioting!!!


glad to know you support the murders of millions of women


Murder? This saves lives not ends them.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-61898437
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/abo ... 58629.html

I thought you lot valued freedom from torture and human dignity
Apparently not.
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Postby Soviet cat » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:48 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Liberty is non-negotiable.

liberty to not use a condom or other contraceptive
thats just selfish
you need to suffer the consequences of not using a condom

No. The Government shouldn't be in control of anyone's Reproductive organs

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Postby Loeje » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:48 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Liberty is non-negotiable.

liberty to not use a condom or other contraceptive
thats just selfish
you need to suffer the consequences of not using a condom

Contraception fails sometimes. Should women be forced to risk their lives because they were unlucky?
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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:48 am

Hispida wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:okay and?
go to another state
maybe if biden lowered the gas prices it wouldnt be so expensice
or better yet learn to use a condon

condoms don't always work and a few states are actually working to make traveling to free states illegal too. plus the president can't affect gas prices but i digress

freedom is non-negotiable. this ruling violates the 14th amendment; "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" and all that

presidents can declare a gas tax holiday and order more drilling
or maybe not close down the pipeline that would have made oil transport easier

this clearly doesnt affect the 14th amendment because abortion is not a priviledge or immunties nor denying anyone a a liberty.

use a condom, birth control pills, the implant, something, but close your legs damn
i dont wanna die in a terrible nuclear war, so lets just end the war in ukraine and end this cold war and all be peaceful

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Postby Sordhau » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:49 am

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Postby Kanadorika » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:49 am

Hispida wrote:protestors are apparently gathering outside of the supreme court. hope they start rioting!!!

Thomasi wrote:Roe v Wade used the non existent right to privacy.

I support this because I am pro life progressive.

glad to know you support the murders of millions of women

What millions of women are being murdered?
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Libertyvilla
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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:49 am

Loeje wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:liberty to not use a condom or other contraceptive
thats just selfish
you need to suffer the consequences of not using a condom

Contraception fails sometimes. Should women be forced to risk their lives because they were unlucky?

thats their problem. use mutliple contraceptives
wait till your ready to have a kid
stop going from.man to man. too bas
i dont wanna die in a terrible nuclear war, so lets just end the war in ukraine and end this cold war and all be peaceful

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HISPIDA
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:49 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Hispida wrote:condoms don't always work and a few states are actually working to make traveling to free states illegal too. plus the president can't affect gas prices but i digress

freedom is non-negotiable. this ruling violates the 14th amendment; "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" and all that

presidents can declare a gas tax holiday and order more drilling
or maybe not close down the pipeline that would have made oil transport easier

this clearly doesnt affect the 14th amendment because abortion is not a priviledge or immunties nor denying anyone a a liberty.

use a condom, birth control pills, the implant, something, but close your legs damn

the pipeline was an extension and if it was finished would've actually increased prices

also abortion is liberty, it's part of a fundamental right to privacy

also birth control doesn't always work. and "close your legs" wow that's classy mhm
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Free Algerstonia
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:50 am

the protesters outside must take the opportunity to create a leftist government... i will not explain how
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:51 am

Sordhau wrote:I cannot express my honest opinion for legal reasons.

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Postby Soviet cat » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:51 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Hispida wrote:condoms don't always work and a few states are actually working to make traveling to free states illegal too. plus the president can't affect gas prices but i digress

freedom is non-negotiable. this ruling violates the 14th amendment; "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" and all that

presidents can declare a gas tax holiday and order more drilling
or maybe not close down the pipeline that would have made oil transport easier

this clearly doesnt affect the 14th amendment because abortion is not a priviledge or immunties nor denying anyone a a liberty.

use a condom, birth control pills, the implant, something, but close your legs damn

Contraception fails sometimes. The Government should never control anyone's Reproductive organs.

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HISPIDA
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:51 am

Free Algerstonia wrote:the protesters outside must take the opportunity to create a leftist government... i will not explain how

this but unironically
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:51 am

Soviet cat wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:presidents can declare a gas tax holiday and order more drilling
or maybe not close down the pipeline that would have made oil transport easier

this clearly doesnt affect the 14th amendment because abortion is not a priviledge or immunties nor denying anyone a a liberty.

use a condom, birth control pills, the implant, something, but close your legs damn

Contraception fails sometimes. The Government should never control anyone's Reproductive organs.

He can always go to PRC and enjoy a place where they harvest organs against the wishes of the deceased.
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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:52 am

Hispida wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:presidents can declare a gas tax holiday and order more drilling
or maybe not close down the pipeline that would have made oil transport easier

this clearly doesnt affect the 14th amendment because abortion is not a priviledge or immunties nor denying anyone a a liberty.

use a condom, birth control pills, the implant, something, but close your legs damn

the pipeline was an extension and if it was finished would've actually increased prices

also abortion is liberty, it's part of a fundamental right to privacy

also birth control doesn't always work. and "close your legs" wow that's classy mhm

how tf would a pipeline lower prices
it makes it easier to bring gas and better foe the environment instead of trucking it.

abortion is not a loberty ita a fucking problem
im all about science and reaaon and hate religion and its scientifically unreasonable and irrational to remove a potential human from existence who can serve in the progress of humanity

and yes close your legs to both men and women. men hold their balls and girls close their lega problem solved
i dont wanna die in a terrible nuclear war, so lets just end the war in ukraine and end this cold war and all be peaceful

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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:53 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Soviet cat wrote:Contraception fails sometimes. The Government should never control anyone's Reproductive organs.

He can always go to PRC and enjoy a place where they harvest organs against the wishes of the deceased.

thats actually smart
youre deas so why should you care about your organs
Harvest ThEm and use it for thosee who need it to solve the organ donor crisis
i dont wanna die in a terrible nuclear war, so lets just end the war in ukraine and end this cold war and all be peaceful

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Postby Diuhon » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:53 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Loeje wrote:Contraception fails sometimes. Should women be forced to risk their lives because they were unlucky?

thats their problem. use mutliple contraceptives
wait till your ready to have a kid
stop going from.man to man. too bas

one cannot be this indifferent to potential life by being callous to present life, jesus fucking christ

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:55 am

Libertyvilla wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:He can always go to PRC and enjoy a place where they harvest organs against the wishes of the deceased.

thats actually smart
youre deas so why should you care about your organs
Harvest ThEm and use it for thosee who need it to solve the organ donor crisis

Do you know why it's illegal to dig up some random dude and shit in their skull?
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Libertyvilla
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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:55 am

Soviet cat wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:presidents can declare a gas tax holiday and order more drilling
or maybe not close down the pipeline that would have made oil transport easier

this clearly doesnt affect the 14th amendment because abortion is not a priviledge or immunties nor denying anyone a a liberty.

use a condom, birth control pills, the implant, something, but close your legs damn

Contraception fails sometimes. The Government should never control anyone's Reproductive organs.

you should learn to control your reproductive organs too
Diuhon wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:thats their problem. use mutliple contraceptives
wait till your ready to have a kid
stop going from.man to man. too bas

one cannot be this indifferent to potential life by being callous to present life, jesus fucking christ

present life is so unsafe anywayz going from person to person, risking pregnancy and STDS and taking the easy way out by ruining themselves with abortion. its really cringe and scientificay unreasonable

almost as unreasomable and irrational as religion
i dont wanna die in a terrible nuclear war, so lets just end the war in ukraine and end this cold war and all be peaceful

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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:56 am

Kanadorika wrote:
Hispida wrote:protestors are apparently gathering outside of the supreme court. hope they start rioting!!!


glad to know you support the murders of millions of women

What millions of women are being murdered?

That seems to refer that by making abortion illegal (by some states), that will force women to seek illegal abortion that is....well, less safe.
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Libertyvilla
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Postby Libertyvilla » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:56 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Libertyvilla wrote:thats actually smart
youre deas so why should you care about your organs
Harvest ThEm and use it for thosee who need it to solve the organ donor crisis

Do you know why it's illegal to dig up some random dude and shit in their skull?

we aint digging anyone up and defecating in skulls
we take them at the morgue and harvest them

This is the wrong thrad anyway
i dont wanna die in a terrible nuclear war, so lets just end the war in ukraine and end this cold war and all be peaceful

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Postby West Barack and East Obama » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:56 am

Sad to see society continuing to move backwards not forwards with regressive dogmatic policies regarding women, LGBT and other minorities' rights. It really is depressing.
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