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What taxes do you support? (Courtesy of the Jamesian Republic)

Land/Property Tax
23
15%
Sales Tax
18
12%
Income Tax
16
10%
No Taxes at All!
8
5%
Tax Transparency (Choose where tax money goes)
17
11%
Reverse Tax (Government Pays You!)
13
8%
Business Tax
23
15%
Flat Tax
7
5%
Progressive Tax
24
16%
Other (Comment Below)
5
3%
 
Total votes : 154

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Red Lake Circle
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Postby Red Lake Circle » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:29 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:If only we would not do stupid "regime change" wars.

How would Raytheon and friends make any money without that sort of revenue stream though?

Won’t somebody think of the arms manufacturers?
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:37 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:If only we would not do stupid "regime change" wars.

How would Raytheon and friends make any money without that sort of revenue stream though?


They should just cope harder then.
The Reformed American Republic wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:The only sphere I choose is the American And Allies Sphere

If only we would not do stupid "regime change" wars.


I mean Russia could use a regime change…

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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:43 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:If only we would not do stupid "regime change" wars.

How would Raytheon and friends make any money without that sort of revenue stream though?

The irony is that war profiteering is considered as American as apple pie despite George Washington (his vices notwithstanding) not being very fond of such people to say the least.
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Hukhalia
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Postby Hukhalia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:46 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:How would Raytheon and friends make any money without that sort of revenue stream though?

The irony is that war profiteering is considered as American as apple pie despite George Washington (his vices notwithstanding) not being very fond of such people to say the least.

That's because America's got an idealised vision of Washington where they ignore all the bad shit about him and then make up new bad shit about him that they pretend is good.
"It was this alone that drew so many Europeans to colonial North America: the dream in the settler mind of each man becoming a petty lord of his own land. Thus, the tradition of individualism and egalitarianism in America was rooted in the poisoned concept of equal privileges for a new nation of European conquerors." J. Sakai

an advocate of total warfare against heterosexual society, any/all

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Hukhalia
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Postby Hukhalia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:47 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:I mean Russia could use a regime change…

Yeah, but whenever the yankees get their mitts on a strongman dictatorship they invariably make it worse.
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an advocate of total warfare against heterosexual society, any/all

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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:49 pm

Russia is a nuclear armed power what has ICBMs that can destroy American and European cities. It would be literal WWIII if we tried to invade. We'd have to get rid of Putin using underhanded means and even so, there is still a chance his successor would want revenge, or that the plot would fail. WWIII again being the result.

It's dumb and would likely lead to the end of the world.
"It's called 'the American Dream' 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz
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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:52 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:The irony is that war profiteering is considered as American as apple pie despite George Washington (his vices notwithstanding) not being very fond of such people to say the least.

That's because America's got an idealised vision of Washington where they ignore all the bad shit about him and then make up new bad shit about him that they pretend is good.

It's due to propaganda that pretends that these historical figures are with them when they were not.
"It's called 'the American Dream' 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz
Older posts do not reflect my positions.

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Hukhalia
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Postby Hukhalia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:52 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Russia is a nuclear armed power what has ICBMs that can destroy American and European cities. It would be literal WWIII if we tried to invade. We'd have to get rid of Putin using underhanded means and even so, there is still a chance his successor would want revenge, or that the plot would fail. WWIII again being the result.

It's dumb and would likely lead to the end of the world.

Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.
"It was this alone that drew so many Europeans to colonial North America: the dream in the settler mind of each man becoming a petty lord of his own land. Thus, the tradition of individualism and egalitarianism in America was rooted in the poisoned concept of equal privileges for a new nation of European conquerors." J. Sakai

an advocate of total warfare against heterosexual society, any/all

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Diarcesia
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:54 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:How would Raytheon and friends make any money without that sort of revenue stream though?

Won’t somebody think of the arms manufacturers?

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:55 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Russia is a nuclear armed power what has ICBMs that can destroy American and European cities. It would be literal WWIII if we tried to invade. We'd have to get rid of Putin using underhanded means and even so, there is still a chance his successor would want revenge, or that the plot would fail. WWIII again being the result.

It's dumb and would likely lead to the end of the world.

Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.


I think people will be more concerned about not dying from radiation than seizing the means of production

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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:58 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Russia is a nuclear armed power what has ICBMs that can destroy American and European cities. It would be literal WWIII if we tried to invade. We'd have to get rid of Putin using underhanded means and even so, there is still a chance his successor would want revenge, or that the plot would fail. WWIII again being the result.

It's dumb and would likely lead to the end of the world.

Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.

J. Posadas was an idiot. A nuclear war would probably push humanity's progress back by more than 2,000 years and any modern ideology (capitalism, communism, etc.) would be reduced to irrelevancy. I would expect tribes and scavengers barely scraping by to be the succeeding state of affairs.
"It's called 'the American Dream' 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz
Older posts do not reflect my positions.

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Free Ravensburg
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Postby Free Ravensburg » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:01 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.

J. Posadas was an idiot. A nuclear war would probably push humanity's progress back by more than 2,000 years and any modern ideology (capitalism, communism, etc.) would be reduced to irrelevancy. I would expect tribes and scavengers barely scraping by to be the succeeding state of affairs.

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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:14 pm

The United States should dramatically increase its’ stockpile of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction
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Red Lake Circle
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Postby Red Lake Circle » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:20 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:The United States should dramatically increase its’ stockpile of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction

What would that do, exactly?
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"For Nature and Liberty!"
- AHAKS NEWS RADIO -
01/15/1583 2000 GST: The trial for the murder of Faurgamu Reiks, the former head of National Revival who had connections to the terrorist group the Harjis Witoth, comes to a conclusion. Both Awareik Fairgunein and Hawi Marthal were convicted of second-degree murder. The public has a mixed response, with some agreeing with the sentencing and others believing the killing was justified. Presiding judge Aiktriu K. Kam responds, "I stand with the law, not public opinion."
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:21 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:The United States should dramatically increase its’ stockpile of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction

What would that do, exactly?

That's a good question because from were I see it, it will do absolutely nothing.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:21 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:The United States should dramatically increase its’ stockpile of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction

What would that do, exactly?

Show Russia and North Korea we’re not a punk bitch and we don’t play around.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:21 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:The United States should dramatically increase its’ stockpile of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction

What would that do, exactly?

Taking the world would be hotter?

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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:23 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Red Lake Circle wrote:What would that do, exactly?

Show Russia and North Korea we’re not a punk bitch and we don’t play around.

We already have enough nukes to wipe them off the map. They know doing so would be a great cost to us and the world, and thus, they know we will probably not do it unless they go that route first.
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"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz
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Red Lake Circle
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Postby Red Lake Circle » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:23 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Red Lake Circle wrote:What would that do, exactly?

Show Russia and North Korea we’re not a punk bitch and we don’t play around.

It would prove us the greatest bitches of them all, I think
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"For Nature and Liberty!"
- AHAKS NEWS RADIO -
01/15/1583 2000 GST: The trial for the murder of Faurgamu Reiks, the former head of National Revival who had connections to the terrorist group the Harjis Witoth, comes to a conclusion. Both Awareik Fairgunein and Hawi Marthal were convicted of second-degree murder. The public has a mixed response, with some agreeing with the sentencing and others believing the killing was justified. Presiding judge Aiktriu K. Kam responds, "I stand with the law, not public opinion."
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:24 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote: Show Russia and North Korea we’re not a punk bitch and we don’t play around.

It would prove us the greatest bitches of them all, I think


Tsar Bombs now!

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Postby Free Ravensburg » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:25 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Red Lake Circle wrote:It would prove us the greatest bitches of them all, I think


Tsar Bombs now!

No, god rods. Gib me depleted uranium rods to let fall on London
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:26 pm

Free Ravensburg wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Tsar Bombs now!

No, god rods. Gib me depleted uranium rods to let fall on London


Also yes

But not on London.

I have other targets *maniacal laugh*

This is a joke.

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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:27 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Russia is a nuclear armed power what has ICBMs that can destroy American and European cities. It would be literal WWIII if we tried to invade. We'd have to get rid of Putin using underhanded means and even so, there is still a chance his successor would want revenge, or that the plot would fail. WWIII again being the result.

It's dumb and would likely lead to the end of the world.

just give mustard gas to chechen and tatar separatist to put a strain on the army.
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:28 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Russia is a nuclear armed power what has ICBMs that can destroy American and European cities. It would be literal WWIII if we tried to invade. We'd have to get rid of Putin using underhanded means and even so, there is still a chance his successor would want revenge, or that the plot would fail. WWIII again being the result.

It's dumb and would likely lead to the end of the world.

just give mustard gas to chechen and tatar separatist to put a strain on the army.


Uh… that’s banned I think

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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:30 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:just give mustard gas to chechen and tatar separatist to put a strain on the army.


Uh… that’s banned I think

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