Hot Takes Discussion II: NATO is the Greatest Thing Ever

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

The guy that cries for a Sinosphere has no idea how much of an imperialist power China is and always has been.

maaaaan, i bet this reaction wouldn't have been the same if i said anglosphere (peak modern and historical imperialism)

I mean if you want the imperialist olympics China has been doing this shit explicitly since it became an emperordom back in 200 BCE.

[Great Heathen Air Force]

The temptation to decry the hypocrisy when a group of people condemns evil that they themselves have committed is always great.

But it's not useful. What you want to do is get them to apply their critique consistently, even as it applies to themselves, and then correct it.

i'm sorry but if you think the broad mass of americans can be convinced, in their current material state, to have a consistent analysis, then i dont think we're on the same wavelength

To quote Ben Kingsley pretending to be Gandhi: "I want to change their minds. Not kill them for weaknesses we all possess."

I think your approach is very satisfying in exactly the way you decry: You get to score points against people on the internet as though this were a sports match. But you don't change anyone's mind.

[Broader Confederate States]

Pick your -spheres. If you had to choose one.

• Team Anglosphere (U.K, Australia, U.S, etc)
• Team Francosphere (France, Quebec [Canada], Mali, etc)
• Team Hispanosphere (Spain, Mexico, Bolivia, etc)

I'd rather not be enemies with any of them, but 3-2-1. I'm biased but the Hispanosphere despite not being able to speak Spanish. The Francosphere is cool but a little too colonial despite putting up a liberal façade. And then there's the British...

[Hukhalia]

i'm sorry but if you think the broad mass of americans can be convinced, in their current material state, to have a consistent analysis, then i dont think we're on the same wavelength

To quote Ben Kingsley pretending to be Gandhi: "I want to change their minds. Not kill them for weaknesses we all possess."

I think your approach is very satisfying in exactly the way you decry: You get to score points against people on the internet as though this were a sports match. But you don't change anyone's mind.

I don't want nor need to change the mind of an American

[Hukhalia]

Ukraine shouldn’t have gave up their nukes.

that's just asking for economic failure

Remember that these people care more about Ukraine as a proxy to NATO than they care about Ukraine as a country.

[Meadowfields]

To quote Ben Kingsley pretending to be Gandhi: "I want to change their minds. Not kill them for weaknesses we all possess."

I think your approach is very satisfying in exactly the way you decry: You get to score points against people on the internet as though this were a sports match. But you don't change anyone's mind.

I don't want nor need to change the mind of an American

why do i agree with you way more on the topic of America than I should

[Hispida]

i'm sorry but if you think the broad mass of americans can be convinced, in their current material state, to have a consistent analysis, then i dont think we're on the same wavelength

To quote Ben Kingsley pretending to be Gandhi: "I want to change their minds. Not kill them for weaknesses we all possess."

I think your approach is very satisfying in exactly the way you decry: You get to score points against people on the internet as though this were a sports match. But you don't change anyone's mind.

i mean in full honesty talks with them combined with my own political views developing in the midst of maturity, economic failure, and joe biden's failure of a presidency have changed my mind pretty hard

[Northern Seleucia]

Pick your -spheres. If you had to choose one.

• Team Anglosphere (U.K, Australia, U.S, etc)
• Team Francosphere (France, Quebec [Canada], Mali, etc)
• Team Hispanosphere (Spain, Mexico, Bolivia, etc)

I'd rather not be enemies with any of them, but 3-2-1. I'm biased but the Hispanosphere despite not being able to speak Spanish. The Francosphere is cool but a little too colonial despite putting up a liberal façade. And then there's the British...

Well, not colonialism, but like the culture, food, music, lifestyle, language etc. Not historical wrongs or rights

[Hispida]

I'd rather not be enemies with any of them, but 3-2-1. I'm biased but the Hispanosphere despite not being able to speak Spanish. The Francosphere is cool but a little too colonial despite putting up a liberal façade. And then there's the British...

Well, not colonialism, but like the culture, food, music, lifestyle, language etc. Not historical wrongs or rights

yeah still the hispanosphere tbh but if i may be as so bold to include a new sinosphere (or just eastern asian sphere in general; china/korea/japan/vietnam/&c.) then i would pick that

[Northern Seleucia]

Well, not colonialism, but like the culture, food, music, lifestyle, language etc. Not historical wrongs or rights

yeah still the hispanosphere tbh but if i may be as so bold to include a new sinosphere (or just eastern asian sphere in general; china/korea/japan/vietnam/&c.) then i would pick that

Sure, why not. We can call it the Greater East Asian Co-prosperity Sphere the East Asian Sphere I guess.

[Great Heathen Air Force]

To quote Ben Kingsley pretending to be Gandhi: "I want to change their minds. Not kill them for weaknesses we all possess."

I think your approach is very satisfying in exactly the way you decry: You get to score points against people on the internet as though this were a sports match. But you don't change anyone's mind.

I don't want nor need to change the mind of an American

Then they will continue doing what they are doing. And you won't be able to stop them.

[Hispida]

yeah still the hispanosphere tbh but if i may be as so bold to include a new sinosphere (or just eastern asian sphere in general; china/korea/japan/vietnam/&c.) then i would pick that

Sure, why not. We can call it the Greater East Asian Co-prosperity Sphere the East Asian Sphere I guess.

yeah that one then

east asian food hits like no other (soba, cha ca, pho, dim sum, mapo tofu, and kimchi jigae are some of my favorites) and east asian music also slaps pretty hard, i fucking love city pop and shibuya-kei especially. i also love east asian architecture, i'd love to visit shit like the angkor wat and i've been obsessed with visiting the forbidden city and beijing in general ever since my grandpa went to china back in the early-mid 90's. i've also wanted to visit japan ever since i was a kid.

also obligatory long live the maoist revolution despite its betrayal by the CCP

[Umeria]

The temptation to decry the hypocrisy when a group of people condemns evil that they themselves have committed is always great.

But it's not useful. What you want to do is get them to apply their critique consistently, even as it applies to themselves, and then correct it.

i'm sorry but if you think the broad mass of americans can be convinced, in their current material state, to have a consistent analysis, then i dont think we're on the same wavelength

Damn, I enthusiastically agreed with your initial take. But then you went back to pretending that the general public, whose core priorities align with yours despite them not knowing the minutia of whatever theory you ascribe to, is an enemy to be fought against. Can't you see that this is a fundamentally elitist position?

[The Reformed American Republic]

also obligatory long live the maoist revolution despite its betrayal by the CCP

Goes great with a love for Stalin. Ain't incompetence leading to mass death wonderful?

[Broader Confederate States]

I'd rather not be enemies with any of them, but 3-2-1. I'm biased but the Hispanosphere despite not being able to speak Spanish. The Francosphere is cool but a little too colonial despite putting up a liberal façade. And then there's the British...

Well, not colonialism, but like the culture, food, music, lifestyle, language etc. Not historical wrongs or rights

Well, música ruidosa, burritos with tomato rice, and sangría señorial still win out over boiling live snails, calling cotton candy "daddy's beard", accordions, and complaining about 80° weather.

[Meadowfields]

Well, not colonialism, but like the culture, food, music, lifestyle, language etc. Not historical wrongs or rights

Well, música ruidosa, burritos with tomato rice, and sangría señorial still win out over boiling live snails, calling cotton candy "daddy's beard", accordions, and complaining about 80° weather.

do you seriously think that live snails are the only aspect of French cuisine? you're comparing the best of x with the worst of y.

[Broader Confederate States]

Well, música ruidosa, burritos with tomato rice, and sangría señorial still win out over boiling live snails, calling cotton candy "daddy's beard", accordions, and complaining about 80° weather.

do you seriously think that live snails are the only aspect of French cuisine? you're comparing the best of x with the worst of y.

Yes, I am.
In other news, honey > sugar. Not in a health context, just in flavor. It's richer and more complex.

[Free Ravensburg]

Hot take: Phase 1 armor > Phase 2 armor

[Red Lake Circle]

do you seriously think that live snails are the only aspect of French cuisine? you're comparing the best of x with the worst of y.

Yes, I am.
In other news, honey > sugar. Not in a health context, just in flavor. It's richer and more complex.

I think the fact that honey is richer and more complex means that it’s a bit harder to use, but man… when honey is used well, it works far better than sugar ever could. Definitely agree.

[Meadowfields]

Yes, I am.
In other news, honey > sugar. Not in a health context, just in flavor. It's richer and more complex.

I think the fact that honey is richer and more complex means that it’s a bit harder to use, but man… when honey is used well, it works far better than sugar ever could. Definitely agree.

Yep, also agreed.

[Hukhalia]

sugar > honey as a way to address people though

[Hispida]

I think the fact that honey is richer and more complex means that it’s a bit harder to use, but man… when honey is used well, it works far better than sugar ever could. Definitely agree.

Yep, also agreed.

honey is also a lot more versatile. like, honey and fried chicken slaps harder than it has any right to.

not fast food fried chicken mind you, actually cooked fried chicken that tastes like something.

[The Jamesian Republic]

The only sphere I choose is the American And Allies Sphere

[The Reformed American Republic]

The only sphere I choose is the American And Allies Sphere

If only we would not do stupid "regime change" wars.

[Hukhalia]

The only sphere I choose is the American And Allies Sphere

If only we would not do stupid "regime change" wars.

How would Raytheon and friends make any money without that sort of revenue stream though?