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Postby Imperial States of Duotona » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:43 am

I didn't even think my silly little thread idea would make it past one page, let alone a whole thread's worth! :)

Anywho, first hot take. The 2020's will (or already have) killed pop music. With the advent of social media such as TikTok and YouTube Shorts, making shorter content has become almost the new normal and music has followed along. Compared to only 10 years ago, songs can barely scrape 2:30 and they just feel like the same 30s played 5 times just to make the runtime sort of radio-playable. A few decades ago, that length of song would either be an interlude on an album with much longer songs, a hidden track at the end of the album or a catchy earworm that spices things up over that duration (think something like Buddy Holly by Weezer).

Either that, or my music taste is getting more specific and today's pop music just doesn't fit that mould.
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Postby Meadowfields » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:44 am

Imperial States of Duotona wrote:I didn't even think my silly little thread idea would make it past one page, let alone a whole thread's worth! :)

Anywho, first hot take. The 2020's will (or already have) killed pop music. With the advent of social media such as TikTok and YouTube Shorts, making shorter content has become almost the new normal and music has followed along. Compared to only 10 years ago, songs can barely scrape 2:30 and they just feel like the same 30s played 5 times just to make the runtime sort of radio-playable. A few decades ago, that length of song would either be an interlude on an album with much longer songs, a hidden track at the end of the album or a catchy earworm that spices things up over that duration (think something like Buddy Holly by Weezer).

Either that, or my music taste is getting more specific and today's pop music just doesn't fit that mould.

I mean, a lot of songs that I've recently heard stretch even into the 4:00 minute mark, but your part about them playing the same part over and over again is pretty much true.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:44 am

Meadowfields wrote:
Imperial States of Duotona wrote:I didn't even think my silly little thread idea would make it past one page, let alone a whole thread's worth! :)

Anywho, first hot take. The 2020's will (or already have) killed pop music. With the advent of social media such as TikTok and YouTube Shorts, making shorter content has become almost the new normal and music has followed along. Compared to only 10 years ago, songs can barely scrape 2:30 and they just feel like the same 30s played 5 times just to make the runtime sort of radio-playable. A few decades ago, that length of song would either be an interlude on an album with much longer songs, a hidden track at the end of the album or a catchy earworm that spices things up over that duration (think something like Buddy Holly by Weezer).

Either that, or my music taste is getting more specific and today's pop music just doesn't fit that mould.

I mean, a lot of songs that I've recently heard stretch even into the 4:00 minute mark, but your part about them playing the same part over and over again is pretty much true.


Well that’s how they get to 4 minutes.

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Postby Meadowfields » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:46 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Meadowfields wrote:I mean, a lot of songs that I've recently heard stretch even into the 4:00 minute mark, but your part about them playing the same part over and over again is pretty much true.


Well that’s how they get to 4 minutes.

Yeah. It's basically like this now:
Chorus
Verse 1
Chorus
Verse 2
Chorus
Bridge
Chorus
Slow down
Chorus
Slow down again
Chorus
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:47 am

Meadowfields wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Well that’s how they get to 4 minutes.

Yeah. It's basically like this now:
Chorus
Verse 1
Chorus
Verse 2
Chorus
Bridge
Chorus
Slow down
Chorus
Slow down again
Chorus


Make Music Great Again

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Postby Meadowfields » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:47 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Meadowfields wrote:Yeah. It's basically like this now:
Chorus
Verse 1
Chorus
Verse 2
Chorus
Bridge
Chorus
Slow down
Chorus
Slow down again
Chorus


Make Music Great Again

And...that's why I like lyricless classical music.
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Postby Romanic Imperium » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:50 am

Imperial States of Duotona wrote:I didn't even think my silly little thread idea would make it past one page, let alone a whole thread's worth! :)

Anywho, first hot take. The 2020's will (or already have) killed pop music. With the advent of social media such as TikTok and YouTube Shorts, making shorter content has become almost the new normal and music has followed along. Compared to only 10 years ago, songs can barely scrape 2:30 and they just feel like the same 30s played 5 times just to make the runtime sort of radio-playable. A few decades ago, that length of song would either be an interlude on an album with much longer songs, a hidden track at the end of the album or a catchy earworm that spices things up over that duration (think something like Buddy Holly by Weezer).

Either that, or my music taste is getting more specific and today's pop music just doesn't fit that mould.


True. Do much current music you can barely ding song too.
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Postby Meadowfields » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:51 am

Supernova take: NS raiders are good
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:53 am

Meadowfields wrote:Supernova take: NS raiders are good


Sun Explosion Take: NS Summie Posters are good.

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Postby Hukhalia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:54 am

Meadowfields wrote:Supernova take: NS raiders are good

in the r/d community from what i know this isn't a hot take at all, raider vs. defender is a fairly established gameplay mechanic and both sides have pretty established arguments as to why they contribute to gameplay in general
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:54 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Meadowfields wrote:Supernova take: NS raiders are good


Sun Explosion Take: NS Summie Posters are good.

Current mods should be replaced by DOSs ngl
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Postby Meadowfields » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:55 am

Hukhalia wrote:
Meadowfields wrote:Supernova take: NS raiders are good

in the r/d community from what i know this isn't a hot take at all, raider vs. defender is a fairly established gameplay mechanic and both sides have pretty established arguments as to why they contribute to gameplay in general

explain why almost every notorious raiding organization in NS has been condemned then (except for the brotherhood of malice)
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Meadowfields wrote:Supernova take: NS raiders are good


Sun Explosion Take: NS Summie Posters are good.

no shit, I got called a summie once.
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Postby Hukhalia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:55 am

Port Caverton wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Sun Explosion Take: NS Summie Posters are good.

Current mods should be replaced by DOSs ngl

Would be very convenient for someone you remind me of, lol
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:55 am

Hukhalia wrote:
Meadowfields wrote:Supernova take: NS raiders are good

in the r/d community from what i know this isn't a hot take at all, raider vs. defender is a fairly established gameplay mechanic and both sides have pretty established arguments as to why they contribute to gameplay in general


Hot Take: Julius Martov did nothing wrong.

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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:56 am

Hukhalia wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Current mods should be replaced by DOSs ngl

Would be very convenient for someone you remind me of, lol

I remind you of someone?
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Postby Hukhalia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:57 am

Meadowfields wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:in the r/d community from what i know this isn't a hot take at all, raider vs. defender is a fairly established gameplay mechanic and both sides have pretty established arguments as to why they contribute to gameplay in general

explain why almost every notorious raiding organization in NS has been condemned then (except for the brotherhood of malice)

Condemnations and Commendations in an OOC sense are both seen as congratulations; most commonly, condemnations for raiders and troublemakers are seen as a badge of honour, as are commendations for do-gooders and defenders
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Postby Meadowfields » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:57 am

Hukhalia wrote:
Meadowfields wrote:explain why almost every notorious raiding organization in NS has been condemned then (except for the brotherhood of malice)

Condemnations and Commendations in an OOC sense are both seen as congratulations; most commonly, condemnations for raiders and troublemakers are seen as a badge of honour, as are commendations for do-gooders and defenders

condemnations for raiders are only seen as badges of honor for the raiders themselves tho, from what i've seen
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Port Caverton wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:Would be very convenient for someone you remind me of, lol

I remind you of someone?

Yeah, a pretty well-known DoS in the RP community. Though the mods have assured me you aren't this person, so I guess it's just a coincidence.
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Postby Hukhalia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:58 am

Meadowfields wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:Condemnations and Commendations in an OOC sense are both seen as congratulations; most commonly, condemnations for raiders and troublemakers are seen as a badge of honour, as are commendations for do-gooders and defenders

condemnations for raiders are only seen as badges of honor for the raiders themselves tho, from what i've seen

Then why would defenders be happy with handing them out to raiders in the first place?
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Postby Meadowfields » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:59 am

Hukhalia wrote:
Meadowfields wrote:condemnations for raiders are only seen as badges of honor for the raiders themselves tho, from what i've seen

Then why would defenders be happy with handing them out to raiders in the first place?

fair point
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:00 am

Hukhalia wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:I remind you of someone?

Yeah, a pretty well-known DoS in the RP community. Though the mods have assured me you aren't this person, so I guess it's just a coincidence.

Well I suck at roleplay so it definitely isn't me lol
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Postby Hamidiye » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:43 am

Romanic Imperium wrote:Hot take: The 90's, 80's, and early 2000's were much better than today


*approving millenial noises*

Remember what life was like back when the most controversial thing in the white house was a cigar? Erdo was still selling watermelons and Nobody in the media industry knew that you could download movies on the internet. Games had a CD-key (hell, they actually fit one or two CD-roms!) and you only needed an internet-connection to play multiplayer. DLC didn't exist, but decent star trek did. It even managed to include decent female, coloured and homosexual characters without reducing them to those traits as their only personalisation...damn, I miss DS9. Back then I had a blackberry, and (besides streaming videos in HD) it did all I do with my modern china-bomber just as well. Facebook didn't exist, neither did the abomination that is twitter - because the kind of people this shit is made for didn't know how to get on the internet. Those things were for nerds anyway. I still use a tower from that era, those old Lian Li steel boxes are f***ing indestructible.

There are a few things that are great though regarding modern tech. Solid state storage for instance, terabytes on a flake the size of a fingernail are pretty awesome. Digital cameras that actually take better pictures than film too. Internet connection that makes streaming video viable is nice, remember what life was like with a modem? Today we have things like Sardaukar-memes, that and many more little cultural things. Not needing to run cables through half your appartment for everything is nice too, isn't it?
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Postby Broader Confederate States » Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:14 am

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True. "Don't say gay" should be "don't say sex" but that doesn't support the proper agenda/narrative.

Damn asexual agenda ruining everything

/s

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Hamidiye wrote:[hamidye nostalgiawanking] I still use a tower from that era, those old Lian Li steel boxes are f***ing indestructible.

There are a few things that are great though regarding modern tech. Solid state storage for instance, terabytes on a flake the size of a fingernail are pretty awesome. Digital cameras that actually take better pictures than film too. Internet connection that makes streaming video viable is nice, remember what life was like with a modem?

I don't want to agree with you because being a nostalgiafriend is just the worst, but I will die on the hill that we lost the greatest display technology when we switched to LCDs -- and ca. 2000 LCDs at that. I have a Gateway LCD from 2002 and it's honestly amazing that anyone would prefer it over a CRT. I am aware of the weight question, I own three CRT monitors and use them whenever possible, including with modern computers, and three CRT televisions ranging from 27 inches to 13 inches. But I'd take a heavier monitor (something you usually leave in place once it's where it's at) that has better colors and multisync over it being lightweight. At least there's a potential successor, LPD, which is 75% more efficient than current OLEDs. If nothing else, I'd like to see them be used to replace dying picture tubes.
Is it the computer itself or just the case? Because the latter would be boring. And yeah, solid state storage is just... inherently better. I've been switching my PowerPC Macs over to solid state, and it's been pretty good so far. I can't decide whether I should use a DOM or an mSATA to 3.5" IDE adapter for my towers, though. My Gigabit Ethernet G4 is going to be used as an OpenBSD web server, so this kind of question really does matter for power consumption and longevity.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:16 am

The security holes in Internet Explorer 6 probs helped a lot with the PRC'ian stealth fighter programmes.
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Missed what I said about age appropriate, didn't you?


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