Hot Takes Discussion II: NATO is the Greatest Thing Ever

[Big Jim P]

Untrue. You are not allowed to talk about it age non-appropriate.

a) completely subjective judgement, b) text of the law does not actually define sexuality, this could be used in reference to straight parents just as easily as everything else

True. "Don't say gay" should be "don't say sex" but that doesn't support the proper agenda/narrative.

[Romanic Imperium]

https://apnews.com/article/florida-dont ... 0c7b31624d


In this article it says

"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law on Monday that forbids instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade, a policy that has drawn intense national scrutiny from critics who argue it marginalizes LGBTQ people"

Missed what I said about age appropriate, didn't you?

Children should be allowed to talk about sexuality no matter how young.
And even Biden called it hateful

[Fidimouni]

Flaming’ hot spicy take: Political correctness ruins everything
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Cheetah hot take: political correctness is a culture war term that has little meaning whatsoever, but is only used to be levied on a attack on any progressive reform ever: whether lingual, economic, social, whatever.

"Hey, this cultural tradition has someone put shoe shine on there face and do, effectively, the equivalent of blackface. That's bad and we shouldn't do that."

"Ugh, political correctness! Trying to change our culture!"

It doesn't give an analysis of anything. It's just a term used by people who refuse to actually analyze or refute a point.

[Big Jim P]

Missed what I said about age appropriate, didn't you?

Children should be allowed to talk about sexuality no matter how young.

Grooming is NOT cool, so the teachers should stay out of it (exception noted above).

[Romanic Imperium]

Children should be allowed to talk about sexuality no matter how young.

Grooming is NOT cool, so the teachers should stay out of it (exception noted above).

"This bill is based on a falsehood, and that falsehood is that somehow we’re teaching kids inappropriate topics at an early age, and clearly we’re not,” Spar said.

The president of the education board said that the bill is based on falsehood. While yes grooming does happen sadly. Majority of the time it wont

[Fidimouni]

a) completely subjective judgement, b) text of the law does not actually define sexuality, this could be used in reference to straight parents just as easily as everything else

True. "Don't say gay" should be "don't say sex" but that doesn't support the proper agenda/narrative.

Don't say gay is a bill so needlessly convoluted but somehow so vague at the same time, that anything could be considered "sex" to these people. Reading it myself really opened to my eye for how horrible this bill is, like, a NS world assembly resolution would fare better.

[Big Jim P]

True. "Don't say gay" should be "don't say sex" but that doesn't support the proper agenda/narrative.

Don't say gay is a bill so needlessly convoluted but somehow so vague at the same time, that anything could be considered "sex" to these people. Reading it myself really opened to my eye for how horrible this bill is, like, a NS world assembly resolution would fare better.

The whole point to laws and politics is to over-complicate things so the average person can't understand it, thus needing to keep and support lawyers and politicians. Both are as bad as priests.

Edit: if you still call it the don't say gay bill (it is a law now and it doesn't even mention "gay") your argument i already considered suspect.

[Fidimouni]

Don't say gay is a bill so needlessly convoluted but somehow so vague at the same time, that anything could be considered "sex" to these people. Reading it myself really opened to my eye for how horrible this bill is, like, a NS world assembly resolution would fare better.

The whole point to laws and politics is to over-complicate things so the average person can't understand it, thus needing to keep and support lawyers and politicians. Both are as bad as priests.

Edit: if you still call it the don't say gay bill (it is a law now and it doesn't even mention "gay") your argument i already considered suspect.

Preventing even answering a question on sexual orientation ("classroom instruction") is aimed at sexual minorities. What the hell is "age appropriate", people banned a book about a fictional penguin family that had two dad's for being inappropriate.

This bill is a Walmart level disguise of bastardization. It isn't don't say sex. It's don't say gay. It will remain that way in it's current state.

[Big Jim P]

The whole point to laws and politics is to over-complicate things so the average person can't understand it, thus needing to keep and support lawyers and politicians. Both are as bad as priests.

Edit: if you still call it the don't say gay bill (it is a law now and it doesn't even mention "gay") your argument i already considered suspect.

Preventing even answering a question on sexual orientation ("classroom instruction")¹ is aimed at sexual minorities. What the hell is "age appropriate", people banned a book about a fictional penguin family that had two dad's for being inappropriate.²

This bill is a Walmart level disguise of bastardization. It isn't don't say sex. It's don't say gay³ It will remain that way in it's current state.

1. The age-frame of the law reflects reality. Up until about puberty, kids might ask questions, but those questions are for the parent, not the teacher to answer

2. See @1

Once again, it isn't "don't say gay"

Your argument was suspect the first time you said "don't say gay" bill. Suspicion confirmed.

[Khurkhogur]

Hot take: political correctness is fake, it's just a buzzword used whenever people don't like developing social movements

Incorrect, a genuine social movement wouldn't police what people say to maintain control of political discourse. That's something a government or institution does.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Hot take: political correctness is fake, it's just a buzzword used whenever people don't like developing social movements

Incorrect, a genuine social movement wouldn't police what people say to maintain control of political discourse. That's something a government or institution does.

Being an arsehole irl is in fact not a virtue.

[Khurkhogur]

Being an arsehole irl is in fact not a virtue.

Doesn't matter what's a virtue or not, the fact is that if you're policing people's speech (I'm not even saying that it's wrong to do that, btw) you have some sort of interest in controlling political discourse. Probably because you have something to lose, usually authority

[Hamidiye]

Hot Take: Former Libyan anthem was best anthem.

[Umeria]

a) completely subjective judgement, b) text of the law does not actually define sexuality, this could be used in reference to straight parents just as easily as everything else

True. "Don't say gay" should be "don't say sex" but that doesn't support the proper agenda/narrative.

Sex education was already banned in Florida for K-5, so even if you're right, the bill doesn't do anything worthwhile

[Meadowfields]

Meadowfields is gone, quick, post about capitalism.

*angered*

[Meadowfields]

Missed what I said about age appropriate, didn't you?

Children should be allowed to talk about sexuality no matter how young.
And even Biden called it hateful

Err...based, but I don't want to get in trouble with mods

[The Jamesian Republic]

Hot Take: “Serenity NOW!” is the best line from Frank Constanza in Seinfeld

[El Lazaro]

Hot Take: Former Libyan anthem was best anthem.

Minor problem; you can’t play it in public without getting stares.

[Red Lake Circle]

Hot Take: Former Libyan anthem was best anthem.

Minor problem; you can’t play it in public without getting stares.

tbf you'd get stares for playing any semitic-language music in public

[Hamidiye]

Minor problem; you can’t play it in public without getting stares.

tbf you'd get stares for playing any semitic-language music in public

And russian too these days.

[Romanic Imperium]

Hot take: The 90's, 80's, and early 2000's were much better than today

[Port Caverton]

Hot take: The 90's, 80's, and early 2000's were much better than today

Boomers agree

[Meadowfields]

Hot take: The 90's, 80's, and early 2000's were much better than today

*Not* Agreed

[The Jamesian Republic]

Hot take: The 90's, 80's, and early 2000's were much better than today

Not really.

[Diarcesia]

a) completely subjective judgement, b) text of the law does not actually define sexuality, this could be used in reference to straight parents just as easily as everything else

True. "Don't say gay" should be "don't say sex" but that doesn't support the proper agenda/narrative.

Damn asexual agenda ruining everything

/s