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Hot Takes Discussion II: NATO is the Greatest Thing Ever

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What taxes do you support? (Courtesy of the Jamesian Republic)

Land/Property Tax
23
15%
Sales Tax
18
12%
Income Tax
16
10%
No Taxes at All!
8
5%
Tax Transparency (Choose where tax money goes)
17
11%
Reverse Tax (Government Pays You!)
13
8%
Business Tax
23
15%
Flat Tax
7
5%
Progressive Tax
24
16%
Other (Comment Below)
5
3%
 
Total votes : 154

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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:34 pm

Port Caverton wrote:We should show Russia how to properly invade countries by giving F R E E D O M to Belarus


No.
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Untecna
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Untecna » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:34 pm

Wow the edge here is enough to cut down a forest with
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Khurkhogur
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Postby Khurkhogur » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:34 pm

The Tusken Clans wrote:That was AFTER the thaw and that was when communism was draining away in Poland and a multi-party system formed

No, it's not
Communist poland was a super successful country
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The Tusken Clans
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Founded: Jun 17, 2022
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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:35 pm

The House of Hamid wrote:
The Tusken Clans wrote:I’m not a commie I hate communism AND democracy, also, polack? Ok kebab kid, your actions turn your supporters AGAINST YOU, you insult the ethnicities of the people who support you bro


Why do you hate democracy? I'm not sayine it doesn't have its drawbacks, as our very own watermelon-seller shows, but still... what's your alternative?

A dictatorship is portrayed as bad, it usually is, but that’s because most dictators came to power through military and are genocidal maniacs, in a wise dictatorship where a dictatorship is politically competent and with a fair hand, it works, same way in a democracy where a president who is competent makes it work

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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:35 pm

Untecna wrote:Wow the edge here is enough to cut down a forest with


There's enough genocide denial here to make the modern-day NatSoc crowd blush.
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The House of Hamid
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Postby The House of Hamid » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:35 pm

Port Caverton wrote:We should show Russia how to properly invade countries by giving F R E E D O M to Belarus


All for Lukachenko getting lead-poisoning the way Gaddafi did raise your hand! :D
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Red Lake Circle
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Founded: May 05, 2022
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Postby Red Lake Circle » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:35 pm

Untecna wrote:Wow the edge here is enough to cut down a forest with

I know, right? Tips of my thumbs are barely holding on here…
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The Tusken Clans
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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:35 pm

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Port Caverton
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Postby Port Caverton » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:35 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:We should show Russia how to properly invade countries by giving F R E E D O M to Belarus


No.

Yes.
The House of Hamid wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:We should show Russia how to properly invade countries by giving F R E E D O M to Belarus


All for Lukachenko getting lead-poisoning the way Gaddafi did raise your hand! :D

*Raises hand*
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Mets Hayk
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Founded: May 14, 2022
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Postby Mets Hayk » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:36 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
No.

Yes.


No.
In fact, I'd only support the US if it gave some F R E E D O M to Turkey.
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Untecna
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Founded: Jun 02, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Untecna » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:36 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Untecna wrote:Wow the edge here is enough to cut down a forest with

I know, right? Tips of my thumbs are barely holding on here…

Ouch ouch ouch, the edge
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NFL Team: 49rs
California is the best is the worst is kinda okay
I may not be an expert on them, but I feel like I know about way too many obscure video/audio formats.
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Khurkhogur
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Founded: Jun 02, 2020
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Postby Khurkhogur » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:37 pm

Port Caverton wrote:We should show Russia how to properly invade countries by giving F R E E D O M to Belarus

Actually results in thermonuclear war
"It was just deterrence bro"
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The Tusken Clans
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Founded: Jun 17, 2022
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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:38 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Yes.


No.
In fact, I'd only support the US if it gave some F R E E D O M to Turkey.

Average Armenian teenager “hurr durr armenia supreme invade turkey hurr durr”, can you actually make reasonable messages? Turkey is more important to America than Armenia will ever be, NATO member, nuclear launching sites

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Khurkhogur
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Postby Khurkhogur » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:38 pm

The edgy boy has a good take
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Senkaku
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
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Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Senkaku » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:40 pm

The Tusken Clans wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
No.
In fact, I'd only support the US if it gave some F R E E D O M to Turkey.

Average Armenian teenager “hurr durr armenia supreme invade turkey hurr durr”, can you actually make reasonable messages? Turkey is more important to America than Armenia will ever be, NATO member, nuclear launching sites

measuring your national self-worth by your current perceived importance to the American empire does not seem like a fruitful path on any level
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The Jamesian Republic
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Founded: Apr 28, 2020
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:41 pm

Hot Take: Roses are the best flower.
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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:42 pm

The Tusken Clans wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
No.
In fact, I'd only support the US if it gave some F R E E D O M to Turkey.

Average Armenian teenager “hurr durr armenia supreme invade turkey hurr durr”, can you actually make reasonable messages? Turkey is more important to America than Armenia will ever be, NATO member, nuclear launching sites

Almost as if it was a joke...
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"Armenia will rise evermore"
A greater fatherland.
An Armenian's dream.
A Turk's nightmare.
Armenia News|Holy Armenian Empire proclaimed|Anatolia Purchase successful|Armenia annexes Azerbaijan and Georgia|Armenia forms the Pan-Christian Cooperative League

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Khurkhogur
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Postby Khurkhogur » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:42 pm

Senkaku wrote:measuring your national self-worth by your current perceived importance to the American empire does not seem like a fruitful path on any level

This is also true but any country has to take stock of geopolitical reality. And the geopolitical reality is that the US is the richest, most powerful country on the globe. Nurturing your dependence on America isn't an ideal position to be in, but it's better than being North Korea or Iran.
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Untecna
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Postby Untecna » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:42 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:Hot Take: Roses are the best flower.

I will argue with you, best flower is the sunflower
Dragon with internet access. I am coming for your data. More for the hoard.
NFL Team: 49rs
California is the best is the worst is kinda okay
I may not be an expert on them, but I feel like I know about way too many obscure video/audio formats.
Issues Author (#1520) | Failed GA Resolution Author

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The Tusken Clans
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Founded: Jun 17, 2022
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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:44 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
The Tusken Clans wrote:Average Armenian teenager “hurr durr armenia supreme invade turkey hurr durr”, can you actually make reasonable messages? Turkey is more important to America than Armenia will ever be, NATO member, nuclear launching sites

Almost as if it was a joke...

Difficult to understand what is and isn’t when few parts of your arguement make sense

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Meadowfields
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Postby Meadowfields » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:44 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:Hot Take: Roses are the best flower.

It's a beautiful socdem/labour symbol, that's for sure.
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The Tusken Clans
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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:44 pm

Meadowfields wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:Hot Take: Roses are the best flower.

It's a beautiful socdem/labour symbol, that's for sure.

You commies turn everything into something about communism

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Senkaku
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Founded: Sep 01, 2012
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Senkaku » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:45 pm

Khurkhogur wrote:
Senkaku wrote:measuring your national self-worth by your current perceived importance to the American empire does not seem like a fruitful path on any level

This is also true but any country has to take stock of geopolitical reality. And the geopolitical reality is that the US is the richest, most powerful country on the globe. Nurturing your dependence on America isn't an ideal position to be in, but it's better than being North Korea or Iran.

Yeah uhhh I’m going to go out on a limb and say being in a position of power and doing actual geopolitical maneuvering is a little different than nationalist shitposting on an Australian author’s ‘90s-era forum
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The Tusken Clans
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Postby The Tusken Clans » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:45 pm

Untecna wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:Hot Take: Roses are the best flower.

I will argue with you, best flower is the sunflower

This guy is right

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Free Ravensburg
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Postby Free Ravensburg » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:45 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:Hot Take: Roses are the best flower.

They hurt too, at least the thorns do
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