Hot Takes Discussion II: NATO is the Greatest Thing Ever

[Khurkhogur]

Ok, genuinely I can't tell. Answer me this - do you refuse to understand the consequences of nuclear escalation, or do you actually not understand them?

I understand the consequences, I just don’t care. We could use a little nuclear war. Spice life up a bit.

"We could use a little nuclear war. Spice life up"
Ok, so you don't understand the consequences.
Also, I was asking Port Caverton but whatever

[Port Caverton]

We should give nukes to Finland, Sweden and the Baltic states.

Ok, genuinely I can't tell. Answer me this - do you refuse to understand the consequences of nuclear escalation, or do you actually not understand them?

The nukes are for deterrence, actually.

If Russia wants to kill millions of people unnecessarily that's on them.

[The Front Range]

Ok, genuinely I can't tell. Answer me this - do you refuse to understand the consequences of nuclear escalation, or do you actually not understand them?

I understand the consequences, I just don’t care. We could use a little nuclear war. Spice life up a bit.

I see you haven’t seen my nation yet

[Red Lake Circle]

Take my Costco $1.50 Hot Dog combo deal

About the same price as Sam’s. Though I’ve never had the food from either before.

Costco hot dogs are really good, and the food courts are usually outside of the store itself. You should totally try one if you get the chance!

[The House of Hamid]

Hot Take:

There's only one system that I can endorse. Democracy. The will of the people must be followed. Anyone that subverts it must be stopped. If the vote says we will have more socialisation and less capitalism that is what must be done, and vice versa. A strong state, a democracy made of Iron! Not for sale, and not undermined by communist vanguards or racist nazi-scum or any other kind of *****s. A truly neutral law, for everybody. The state needs to protect the freedoms of its citizens from all threat, no matter the origin. That one Mao got right, with his Mass Line idea: only the collective will of a mass of people is a driving force for change or for conservation. Every citizen the same voice and vote, majority is followed. There is no other system worth a damn.

[Torisakia]

I understand the consequences, I just don’t care. We could use a little nuclear war. Spice life up a bit.

"We could use a little nuclear war. Spice life up"
Ok, so you don't understand the consequences.
Also, I was asking Port Caverton but whatever

I know. But I just wanted to add in.

Nuclear War is inevitable whether you like it or not. The world will be in ruins by 2025. There is no escape.

[Mets Hayk]

Ok, genuinely I can't tell. Answer me this - do you refuse to understand the consequences of nuclear escalation, or do you actually not understand them?

The nukes are for deterrence, actually.

If Russia wants to kill millions of people unnecessarily that's on them.

So, by your logic, we should give my country multiple thermonuclear weapons because we border Turkey and Azerbaijan?

[Khurkhogur]

Ok, genuinely I can't tell. Answer me this - do you refuse to understand the consequences of nuclear escalation, or do you actually not understand them?

The nukes are for deterrence, actually.
If Russia wants to kill millions of people unnecessarily that's on them.

I'm relatively certain you've advocated for nuking various countries as well.
But in any case, that is exactly what would happen - Russia would probably start a nuclear war. They're desperate. When you start playing these games of escalation, you are asking for further escalation - especially in this sort of circumstance. It won't matter whose fault it is when nuclear war breaks out, because we will all be dead.

[The Front Range]

Take my Costco $1.50 Hot Dog combo deal

About the same price as Sam’s. Though I’ve never had the food from either before.

You also get a 20 oz refillable soda with it

Same price since 85’(?)

[Torisakia]

About the same price as Sam’s. Though I’ve never had the food from either before.

Costco hot dogs are really good, and the food courts are usually outside of the store itself. You should totally try one if you get the chance!

My local Costco has their food court inside the store, but I have a membership so it’s not that big a deal. I’ll try one next time I’m there.

[Red Lake Circle]

The nukes are for deterrence, actually.

If Russia wants to kill millions of people unnecessarily that's on them.

So, by your logic, we should give my country multiple thermonuclear weapons because we border Turkey and Azerbaijan?

If I didn't have a good understanding the consequences of nuclear escalation, I would definitely support giving Armenia nukes lmao

[Port Caverton]

The nukes are for deterrence, actually.

If Russia wants to kill millions of people unnecessarily that's on them.

So, by your logic, we should give my country multiple thermonuclear weapons because we border Turkey and Azerbaijan?

I don't mind tbh.

Don't think you guys have an economy that's up to the job though.

[The House of Hamid]

The nukes are for deterrence, actually.

If Russia wants to kill millions of people unnecessarily that's on them.

So, by your logic, we should give my country multiple thermonuclear weapons because we border Turkey and Azerbaijan?

[Khurkhogur]

Where did Mets Hayk's post go? I was about to respond

[Port Caverton]

The nukes are for deterrence, actually.
If Russia wants to kill millions of people unnecessarily that's on them.

I'm relatively certain you've advocated for nuking various countries as well.
But in any case, that is exactly what would happen - Russia would probably start a nuclear war. They're desperate. When you start playing these games of escalation, you are asking for further escalation - especially in this sort of circumstance. It won't matter whose fault it is when nuclear war breaks out, because we will all be dead.

Hey it's not our fault Russian leaders are bloodthirsty when we place deterrents.

Also China and India would likely remain intact, they will lose people afterwards due to famines, but they will continue to exist.

[Red Lake Circle]

I'm relatively certain you've advocated for nuking various countries as well.
But in any case, that is exactly what would happen - Russia would probably start a nuclear war. They're desperate. When you start playing these games of escalation, you are asking for further escalation - especially in this sort of circumstance. It won't matter whose fault it is when nuclear war breaks out, because we will all be dead.

Hey it's not our fault Russian leaders are bloodthirsty when we place deterrents.

Also China and India would likely remain intact, they will lose people afterwards due to famines, but they will continue to exist.

Death Ideology Moment

[Port Caverton]

Hey it's not our fault Russian leaders are bloodthirsty when we place deterrents.

Also China and India would likely remain intact, they will lose people afterwards due to famines, but they will continue to exist.

Death Ideology Moment

That's Russia actually.

[Pan-Pacific Unity]

I'm relatively certain you've advocated for nuking various countries as well.
But in any case, that is exactly what would happen - Russia would probably start a nuclear war. They're desperate. When you start playing these games of escalation, you are asking for further escalation - especially in this sort of circumstance. It won't matter whose fault it is when nuclear war breaks out, because we will all be dead.

Hey it's not our fault Russian leaders are bloodthirsty when we place deterrents.

Also China and India would likely remain intact, they will lose people afterwards due to famines, but they will continue to exist.

I'm not sure you understand the consequences of a large-scale nuclear exchange. Or even a limited nuclear exchange.

[Mets Hayk]

So, by your logic, we should give my country multiple thermonuclear weapons because we border Turkey and Azerbaijan?

As much as I hate the Reds, they gave Enver what he deserved: an undignified, and (hopefully) painful death.

[Khurkhogur]

I'm relatively certain you've advocated for nuking various countries as well.
But in any case, that is exactly what would happen - Russia would probably start a nuclear war. They're desperate. When you start playing these games of escalation, you are asking for further escalation - especially in this sort of circumstance. It won't matter whose fault it is when nuclear war breaks out, because we will all be dead.

Hey it's not our fault Russian leaders are bloodthirsty when we place deterrents.
Also China and India would likely remain intact, they will lose people afterwards due to famines, but they will continue to exist.

"It's not our fault"
Again, "who started it" is a meaningless topic. If you take an action that you know will lead to catastrophe, it is your fault, because everyone suffers.
"We all died in a thermonuclear exchange but hey, at least I proved that the Russians are the real baddies!"

[Port Caverton]

Hey it's not our fault Russian leaders are bloodthirsty when we place deterrents.

Also China and India would likely remain intact, they will lose people afterwards due to famines, but they will continue to exist.

I'm not sure you understand the consequences of a large-scale nuclear exchange. Or even a limited nuclear exchange.

That would be completely Russia's fault in this case since they would kill millions of people for no long term gain. Hell, no short term gain as well.

[Torisakia]

Hey it's not our fault Russian leaders are bloodthirsty when we place deterrents.
Also China and India would likely remain intact, they will lose people afterwards due to famines, but they will continue to exist.

"It's not our fault"
Again, "who started it" is a meaningless topic. If you take an action that you know will lead to catastrophe, it is your fault, because everyone suffers.

Ok but when I apply this logic to people who voted in the current disastrous government it’s actually me who’s at fault for some reason cause I didn’t even vote.

[Red Lake Circle]

I'm not sure you understand the consequences of a large-scale nuclear exchange. Or even a limited nuclear exchange.

That would be completely Russia's fault in this case since they would kill millions of people for no long term gain. Hell, no short term gain as well.

Again, you're doing something that you know for a fact would fuck the world, but you're okay with it bc in your head you can shift the blame to Russia.

Death Ideology Moment

[Port Caverton]

Hey it's not our fault Russian leaders are bloodthirsty when we place deterrents.
Also China and India would likely remain intact, they will lose people afterwards due to famines, but they will continue to exist.

"It's not our fault"
Again, "who started it" is a meaningless topic. If you take an action that you know will lead to catastrophe, it is your fault, because everyone suffers.
"We all died in a thermonuclear exchange but hey, at least I proved that the Russians are the real baddies!"

Nukes being sent to those won't lead to a catastrophe. Putin launching nukes for no reason will.

[Luminesa]

Hot takes!

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Pierogis are sandwiches.
Tacos are sandwiches.
Sushi is a sandwich!
Burritos are sandwiches.
Pizza is an open-faced sandwich.
Cheesecake is a sweet sandwich!
Eclaires are cream sandwiches.
Empanadas are sandwiches!
Pies are sandwiches. (And empanadas are just mini-pies, therefore it is a biconditional.)