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What taxes do you support? (Courtesy of the Jamesian Republic)

Land/Property Tax
23
15%
Sales Tax
18
12%
Income Tax
16
10%
No Taxes at All!
8
5%
Tax Transparency (Choose where tax money goes)
17
11%
Reverse Tax (Government Pays You!)
13
8%
Business Tax
23
15%
Flat Tax
7
5%
Progressive Tax
24
16%
Other (Comment Below)
5
3%
 
Total votes : 154

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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:06 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:The service industry has made me hate humanity.

You and me both.
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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:14 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:The service industry has made me hate humanity.

You and me both.

No sandwich I make will be perfect enough for that colossal bitch, who acted like adding a mountain of lettuce will help her lose weight.
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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:16 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:That person is incredibly suspect and needs to be kept away from kids, man.

True, but I don't think you can get that to show up in a background check, unfortunately...

On one hand, I don't want the government snooping on stuff I say or enjoy in private. On the other hand, these six-year old lolis and their 50 year old lovers make me want to be a police state.
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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:18 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:You and me both.

No sandwich I make will be perfect enough for that colossal bitch, who acted like adding a mountain of lettuce will help her lose weight.

Yeah, I dealt with those kinds of rude cunts who think you exist to serve them and are not a person.
"It's called 'the American Dream' 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz
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Meadowfields
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Meadowfields » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:18 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Red Lake Circle wrote:True, but I don't think you can get that to show up in a background check, unfortunately...

On one hand, I don't want the government snooping on stuff I say or enjoy in private. On the other hand, these six-year old lolis and their 50 year old lovers make me want to be a police state.

I thought you said you radicalized to anarcho-primitivism?
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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:20 pm

Meadowfields wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:On one hand, I don't want the government snooping on stuff I say or enjoy in private. On the other hand, these six-year old lolis and their 50 year old lovers make me want to be a police state.

I thought you said you radicalized to anarcho-primitivism?

I'm 16, I'm politically fluid /jk.

No seriously, some people just make you want to be Big Brother. Maybe Libertyvilla was right /jk

Alright, I need to sleep lmao

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:No sandwich I make will be perfect enough for that colossal bitch, who acted like adding a mountain of lettuce will help her lose weight.

Yeah, I dealt with those kinds of rude cunts who think you exist to serve them and are not a person.

For real, you meet the worst people here.
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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:21 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Meadowfields wrote:I thought you said you radicalized to anarcho-primitivism?

I'm 16, I'm politically fluid /jk.

No seriously, some people just make you want to be Big Brother. Maybe Libertyvilla was right /jk

Alright, I need to sleep lmao

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Yeah, I dealt with those kinds of rude cunts who think you exist to serve them and are not a person.

For real, you meet the worst people here.

Because the company does not care about you, you have to act in ways contrary to your own well being, and effectively take it with a smile.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:21 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Red Lake Circle wrote:True, but I don't think you can get that to show up in a background check, unfortunately...

On one hand, I don't want the government snooping on stuff I say or enjoy in private. On the other hand, these six-year old lolis and their 50 year old lovers make me want to be a police state.

I don't like the idea of the government wasting tax dollars on stamping out drawings
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Postby Hispida » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:26 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Red Lake Circle wrote:True, but I don't think you can get that to show up in a background check, unfortunately...

On one hand, I don't want the government snooping on stuff I say or enjoy in private. On the other hand, these six-year old lolis and their 50 year old lovers make me want to be a police state.

i once got banned for 30 days on AO3 for helping make a fanfiction directly insulting pedophiles and it was the highlight of my career
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:29 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:I'm 16, I'm politically fluid /jk.

No seriously, some people just make you want to be Big Brother. Maybe Libertyvilla was right /jk

Alright, I need to sleep lmao


For real, you meet the worst people here.

Because the company does not care about you, you have to act in ways contrary to your own well being, and effectively take it with a smile.

I hate fake smiling. "We need to make sure people feel like home here."

Man, fuck people.

Port Caverton wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:On one hand, I don't want the government snooping on stuff I say or enjoy in private. On the other hand, these six-year old lolis and their 50 year old lovers make me want to be a police state.

I don't like the idea of the government wasting tax dollars on stamping out drawings

The people who make these drawings often hate Senpai.
Hispida wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:On one hand, I don't want the government snooping on stuff I say or enjoy in private. On the other hand, these six-year old lolis and their 50 year old lovers make me want to be a police state.

i once got banned for 30 days on AO3 for helping make a fanfiction directly insulting pedophiles and it was the highlight of my career

I support violating the cruel and unusual punishments amendment against pedophiles and child rapists.
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Port Caverton
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:30 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:I don't like the idea of the government wasting tax dollars on stamping out drawings

The people who make these drawings often hate Senpai.

I know those people tend to be leftists or racist lolberts but i still don't want my tax dollars getting wasted just to get rid of some drawings
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:33 pm

Meadowfields wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
But Social Democracy… Progressivism…

he was a socdem?


I guess. He was a supporter and candidate of the Progressive Party it one of its incarnations.

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Hispida
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Postby Hispida » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:38 pm

Sordhau wrote:
Hispida wrote:hot take: if you play fire emblem: awakening and ship chrom with anybody besides femrobin and vice versa then buddy i have a gulag for you


I have never played this game but I just want to clarify that I never ship a female character with anyone other than another female character.

Yes I am biased don't @ me.

*slams fists on table* listen here.

*pulls out chart* not only does this make the most sense from a storytelling perspective but it also has a crucial romantic archetype my ace/aro ass somehow falls for every time which is "amnesiac falls in love with the first person she sees that helps her" and not only this but they complement each other so well. chrom is a charismatic everyman but also a bumbling fucking dumbass while robin is unbelievably shrewd but has no idea how to approach anything with tact* and is not a very social person

in other words they are polar OPPOSITES and i love them with ALL MY HEART and YES I CRIED OVER THEM. MULTIPLE TIMES!!!

Astoundingly Affectionate Asexual is Astutely Aware!

*ironic because they are a tactician

(also unfortunately you cannot ship people of the same sex in FE:A (i think u can do it in the later games idk i havent played them yet) but in full honesty it's kind of an open secret that vaike is totally gay for chrom even though chrom does not share this at all and canonically marries a woman* and tharja is very gay for femrobin. i also like the idea that miriel is some stripe of ace but that unfortunately kinda feeds into the stereotype that ace people are heartless cuz she's one of those "i'm very smart and better than all of you because i use big words" types)

(*it varies depending on who he gets romantically involved with; robin, sumia, cordelia, sully, olivia, or a random peasant woman if he's romantically involved with none of them)
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Broader Confederate States
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Postby Broader Confederate States » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:45 pm

Not toasting your bread before making a sandwich with it, whether that's a traditionally toasted sandwich, a peanut butter and marmalade, or whatever the garbage was I used to make that had gouda, sliced turkey, tomato, onions, sriracha sauce, black pepper, salt, and habanero sauce, with mayo on both pieces of bread, is a sign of barbarism.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:46 pm

Hot take: Pineapples over pizza is good.

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Hispida
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Postby Hispida » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:48 pm

Broader Confederate States wrote:
Not toasting your bread before making a sandwich with it, whether that's a traditionally toasted sandwich, a peanut butter and marmalade, or whatever the garbage was I used to make that had gouda, sliced turkey, tomato, onions, sriracha sauce, black pepper, salt, and habanero sauce, with mayo on both pieces of bread, is a sign of barbarism.

i just use white bread w/ ham, turkey, cheese, and ketchup

sometimes with chips too /shrug
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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:09 pm

Broader Confederate States wrote:
Not toasting your bread before making a sandwich with it, whether that's a traditionally toasted sandwich, a peanut butter and marmalade, or whatever the garbage was I used to make that had gouda, sliced turkey, tomato, onions, sriracha sauce, black pepper, salt, and habanero sauce, with mayo on both pieces of bread, is a sign of barbarism.


Hispida wrote:
Broader Confederate States wrote:
Not toasting your bread before making a sandwich with it, whether that's a traditionally toasted sandwich, a peanut butter and marmalade, or whatever the garbage was I used to make that had gouda, sliced turkey, tomato, onions, sriracha sauce, black pepper, salt, and habanero sauce, with mayo on both pieces of bread, is a sign of barbarism.

i just use white bread w/ ham, turkey, cheese, and ketchup

sometimes with chips too /shrug


One of my favorite sandwiches bro that I can eat every day, I swear, is a Pastrami on Rye with a Kosher dill pickle on the side and a ton of Kedem-brand Grape Juice which is basically crack for children at this point. Served a lot at Jewish festivals, and so we drink it often even outside of festivals because why not lol.
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Romanic Imperium
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Postby Romanic Imperium » Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:11 pm

Diarcesia wrote:Hot take: Pineapples over pizza is good.


True
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PhilTech
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Postby PhilTech » Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:41 pm

Diarcesia wrote:Hot take: Pineapples over pizza is good.

And Pepperonis aren't.

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Postby Broader Confederate States » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:06 am

Diarcesia wrote:Hot take: Pineapples over pizza is good.

Lukewarm at best. You can have preferences against it and those are valid, but the pineapple (obviously when not in disproportionate quantities) doesn't overpower or seriously contrast any of the basic flavors of pizza, and adds to it to create a more complex flavor. Yes, it's sweet, but so are the tomatoes if you're doing the pizza thing correctly. It all depends on what kind of flavor palette you're going for, because obviously it doesn't go as well with an alfredo chicken pizza as it does alongside, say, sausage and bell pepper. It can also be a good source of an acidic bite as well, if you're into that.
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Khurkhogur » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:16 am

One of the main problem with pineapples in general is that in the continental US they are just not as good. They are a lot more sour, less sweet, and cardboard-y. If you ever have pineapple in Hawaii, you'll realize what you've been missing out on.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Neu California » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:28 am

California is the best US state for making/getting guacamole. Change my mind
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Postby Port Caverton » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:18 am

We should use neutron bombs on mexican cartels
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The Jamesian Republic
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:26 am

Port Caverton wrote:We should use neutron bombs on mexican cartels


Yes

And let’s give them to the Zapatistas!

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Postby Port Caverton » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:29 am

We should give Colombia nukes so that they can give F R E E D O M to Venezuela
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