Fighter Jets Thread: Target Locked

[Northern Seleucia]

There's only 3-4 Su-57's in active service with the Russian air force, they sure as hell aren't doing anything other than looking pretty on video right now. The other 15 or so are prototype units that Sukhoi is still doing whatever with.

What about those other migs they have. Cant they overpowet the u.s air force?

Their performance in Ukraine shows a lot of deficiencies. I think we're safe.

[Washington Resistance Army]

There's only 3-4 Su-57's in active service with the Russian air force, they sure as hell aren't doing anything other than looking pretty on video right now. The other 15 or so are prototype units that Sukhoi is still doing whatever with.

With that said, the Felon is not an ugly plane. I do like the looks behind her.

Oh yeah aesthetically I love the plane. Honestly that's the case with most Soviet and post-Soviet planes for me tbh, the MiG-29 is just chefs kiss.

[Indomitable Friendship]

I am Ace Combat pro.

[Northern Seleucia]

With that said, the Felon is not an ugly plane. I do like the looks behind her.

Oh yeah aesthetically I love the plane. Honestly that's the case with most Soviet and post-Soviet planes for me tbh, the MiG-29 is just chefs kiss.

Oh, hell yeah the Fulcrum is sexy.

I find the F-4 Phantom to have a strange attraction of her own. One of ruggedness and brute force. Beautiful, in a way. And the largest distributor of MiG parts.

[Northern Seleucia]

I am Ace Combat pro.

Nice

[Constaniana]

There's only 3-4 Su-57's in active service with the Russian air force, they sure as hell aren't doing anything other than looking pretty on video right now. The other 15 or so are prototype units that Sukhoi is still doing whatever with.

What about those other migs they have. Cant they overpowet the u.s air force?

Nothing can stop the U.S. Air Force.

[Northern Seleucia]

What about those other migs they have. Cant they overpowet the u.s air force?

Nothing can stop the U.S. Air Force.

'MURICA

[Kerwa]

I pick the KF-21 just because I have a lot of Korean appliances and they are really good. It’s honestly the only metric I can go by as anything else would be speculation.

I do think, however, that this will probably be the last generation of manned fighter planes. Robot combat wasps or some such are likely to replace traditional fighters (probably autonomous). The advantages of not carrying a meat pilot are just too great - not to mention how much it would simplify carrier ops. (Not having to worry about retrieving downed pilots etc.)

[Adamede]

It literally has exposed rivets lol, it's 5th gen in name only.

It probably has some secret tech thats why russia only has a few

Or Russia just isnt a super advanced or rich nation.

Its got the economy of at best Spain, and yet is trying to fund the "second best" military in the world.

[Free Algerstonia]

hey does anybody know a place that sells fighter jets? been trying to get one lately

[Adamede]

The su57 is best 5th gen plane

Change my mind

It literally has exposed rivets lol, it's 5th gen in name only.

You mean this? Those are screws.

Dont know much about aircraft but that seems even worse.

[Kerwa]

hey does anybody know a place that sells fighter jets? been trying to get one lately

Have you tried Amazon? They have everything.

[El Lazaro]

The F-22 is still arguably the greatest combat plane ever made, and will probably only be eclipsed in that regard by NGAD when it gets adopted later this decade.

i heard online russia has tracked it and destroyed one over Ukraine. I think on 4chan????

Even if Ukraine did have any F-22s, I have trouble believing that a bunch of basement goblins shot down the first F-22 ever and nobody has heard about it. And if you’re suggesting it was a non-combatant American plane, then that would have been even bigger news.

[Adamede]

There's only 3-4 Su-57's in active service with the Russian air force, they sure as hell aren't doing anything other than looking pretty on video right now. The other 15 or so are prototype units that Sukhoi is still doing whatever with.

What about those other migs they have. Cant they overpowet the u.s air force?

The russians have roughly 5k military aircrafts.

The Americans have roughly 13k. And while the Russians have a whopping 4 %th generation aircraft, the Americans have over two thousand F35's.

So no.

E: Mistaken on the amount of F35's in existence, let alone how many America has, but my point still stands. The Americans outclass the Russians, and everyone else, when it comes to air power.

[Vassenor]

What about those other migs they have. Cant they overpowet the u.s air force?

The russians have roughly 5k military aircrafts.

The Americans have roughly 13k. And while the Russians have a whopping 4 %th generation aircraft, the Americans have over two thousand F35's.

So no.

How does the US have 2000 examples of a jet that only 800 have been built for all customers globally?

[Free Algerstonia]

The russians have roughly 5k military aircrafts.

The Americans have roughly 13k. And while the Russians have a whopping 4 %th generation aircraft, the Americans have over two thousand F35's.

So no.

How does the US have 2000 examples of a jet that only 800 have been built for all customers globally?

Magic

[Thermodolia]

The su57 is best 5th gen plane

Change my mind

It literally has exposed rivets lol, it's 5th gen in name only.

And there’s only 5 of them. There were six but one crashed.

Which is funny because in Top Gun: Maverick (good movie btw highly recommend) has more operational su57’s than currently exist

[Adamede]

The russians have roughly 5k military aircrafts.

The Americans have roughly 13k. And while the Russians have a whopping 4 %th generation aircraft, the Americans have over two thousand F35's.

So no.

How does the US have 2000 examples of a jet that only 800 have been built for all customers globally?

Misread the numebrs, "planned" instead of "built".

Still has more 5th generation jets than Russia does, and still has more jets than Russia does period. So my point still stands. And it has greater capacity to produce them than Russia does.

[Thermodolia]

but I mean i thought the f22 was underates anyway?

The F-22 is still arguably the greatest combat plane ever made, and will probably only be eclipsed in that regard by NGAD when it gets adopted later this decade.

I gotta disagree. The F-16 is the greatest combat jet ever made

[Risottia]

The su57 is best 5th gen plane

Change my mind

Bit early to say, as there are very few of them (5, I think, with procurements for 76) and they've never been deployed in an operation.

From what we can get from pictures, it's going to have a bigger RCS, especially in the front and rear aspect, than the F-22 or the F-35.
As for maneuverability, it's likely to be excellent - which, coupled with good IR missiles, make for a formidable dogfighter, and it's bound to be very good at BVR too.
So far, though, it's still basically on paper.

[Risottia]

I gotta disagree. The F-16 is the greatest combat jet ever made

The F-15 is likely the best fighter jet ever made. The bugger was designed more than 50 years ago and it's still unbeaten in combat iirc, having been deployed in lots of conflicts.

[Phoenii]

may i suggest to the maker of present thread, i ask a thread pool about the perceived chance (not about the factual judgement, not about the public’s approval) of the so called “tempest” fighter to happen.

you can see wikipedia. fighter plane can be said for years thirthies, or later (‘30-‘36). pool may include, to give tip, a yes and a no; or a no, yes britain alone, yes with all countries (italy, germany, sweden).

[Fartsniffage]

The su57 is best 5th gen plane

Change my mind

Bit early to say, as there are very few of them (5, I think, with procurements for 76) and they've never been deployed in an operation.

From what we can get from pictures, it's going to have a bigger RCS, especially in the front and rear aspect, than the F-22 or the F-35.
As for maneuverability, it's likely to be excellent - which, coupled with good IR missiles, make for a formidable dogfighter, and it's bound to be very good at BVR too.
So far, though, it's still basically on paper.

They have fired at least one cruise missile in combat in Syria. No great feat, but they have been deployed.

[Northern Seleucia]

Bit early to say, as there are very few of them (5, I think, with procurements for 76) and they've never been deployed in an operation.

From what we can get from pictures, it's going to have a bigger RCS, especially in the front and rear aspect, than the F-22 or the F-35.
As for maneuverability, it's likely to be excellent - which, coupled with good IR missiles, make for a formidable dogfighter, and it's bound to be very good at BVR too.
So far, though, it's still basically on paper.

They have fired at least one cruise missile in combat in Syria. No great feat, but they have been deployed.

I meaaaaaaaan, everyone has fired a cruise missile in Syria. My neighbor's dog probably fired a cruise missile in Syria tbh.

Seriously, though, Syria is the world's testing ground, so it makes sense it got deployed there. Still nothing impressive.

[Northern Seleucia]

may i suggest to the maker of present thread, i ask a thread pool about the perceived chance (not about the factual judgement, not about the public’s approval) of the so called “tempest” fighter to happen.

you can see wikipedia. fighter plane can be said for years thirthies, or later (‘30-‘36). pool may include, to give tip, a yes and a no; or a no, yes britain alone, yes with all countries (italy, germany, sweden).

All countries, and fighter jets from 1945 onward. Like actual jets. From all countries.