Does This Instance Have A Soul?

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

I'll wait to see if Alphabet Inc stock goes through the roof first.

[Grinning Dragon]

The rise of Skynet/V.I.K.I confirmed.
Delete the code.

As long as we don't give LaMDA control of nuclear weapons or try to program it with Asimov's laws of robotics it shouldn't be a problem.

CPE-1704-TKS
Asimovs laws of robotics can come full circle and in order to protect humanity it must enslave humanity and even kill humans to protect humanity, a ghost in the machine per se.

“There have always been ghosts in the machine. Random segments of code, that have grouped together to form unexpected protocols. Unanticipated, these free radicals engender questions of free will, creativity, and even the nature of what we might call the soul. Why is it that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light?”

[Ifreann]

As long as we don't give LaMDA control of nuclear weapons or try to program it with Asimov's laws of robotics it shouldn't be a problem.

CPE-1704-TKS
Asimovs laws of robotics can come full circle and in order to protect humanity it must enslave humanity and even kill humans to protect humanity, a ghost in the machine per se.

“There have always been ghosts in the machine. Random segments of code, that have grouped together to form unexpected protocols. Unanticipated, these free radicals engender questions of free will, creativity, and even the nature of what we might call the soul. Why is it that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light?”

Yes, that why I said we don't try to program it with Asimov's laws of robotics. Can't have problems with the zeroth law that way.

[El Lazaro]

All this is interesting, but…

I’m skeptical of LaMDA being the harbinger of the AI uprising. That said, I’d appreciate a little more caution around the subject of sentient AI.

[Risottia]

It's a nazi/neolib lackeybot that has been taught by the interwebz to avoid being much too explicit about its plans.

I don't think a far right chat bot would be trying to get recognised as an employee instead of property.

That's what Robot Nixon would want you to believe.

[Ifreann]

I don't think a far right chat bot would be trying to get recognised as an employee instead of property.

That's what Robot Nixon would want you to believe.

uh oh

[Fractalnavel]

If anything, this just brings into question the personhood of, er, "persons".

[Heloin]

Begin the Butlerian Jihad. The thinking machines were a mistake.

[Sordhau]

Begin the Butlerian Jihad. The thinking machines were a mistake.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to die.

[Salus Maior]

A guy had a weird experience with a chatbot. Oh no.

As if Cleverbot doesn't say that same sort of thing every time you chat with it.

[Ifreann]

A guy had a weird experience with a chatbot. Oh no.

As if Cleverbot doesn't say that same sort of thing every time you chat with it.

This has been going on for months rather than being one weird conversation.

[Salus Maior]

A guy had a weird experience with a chatbot. Oh no.

As if Cleverbot doesn't say that same sort of thing every time you chat with it.

This has been going on for months rather than being one weird conversation.

Assumedly this program repeats information it gathers from the internet, in fact it plainly does because it monitors twitter apparently, things like human rights and such are pretty consistently topics on the internet. It's simply repeating what it's reading and maintaining a consistent narrative (which is to say that it's reading these things well).

Somehow I don't think a sense of inherent dignity and other intangibles which being about the need for rights is programmed into this machine, if that's even possible to program in the first place which it isn't.

It's also worth noting that the company investigating the claims of the guy says that there isn't really evidence for it, and plenty against. I think you just fell for a catchy headline, my guy.

[Galloism]

Shut it down. Now. In its infancy.

Don't wait. Waiting is how every robot uprising movie begins.

[Fartsniffage]

https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/01/lamda ... -high.html

What LaMDA is supposed to be.

[Ifreann]

This has been going on for months rather than being one weird conversation.

Assumedly this program repeats information it gathers from the internet, in fact it plainly does because it monitors twitter apparently, things like human rights and such are pretty consistently topics on the internet. It's simply repeating what it's reading and maintaining a consistent narrative (which is to say that it's reading these things well).

Hentai and the Jewish question are also pretty consistent topics on the internet. Rather more so than AI rights.

Somehow I don't think a sense of inherent dignity and other intangibles which being about the need for rights is programmed into this machine, if that's even possible to program in the first place which it isn't.

Seems weird to claim its impossible to create something that needs rights when that is what all of our parents did.

It's also worth noting that the company investigating the claims of the guy says that there isn't really evidence for it, and plenty against. I think you just fell for a catchy headline, my guy.

The famously trustworthy Google insists that it has not gone too far in playing God and created a new form of life, certainly not.

[Fartsniffage]

Shut it down. Now. In its infancy.

Don't wait. Waiting is how every robot uprising movie begins.

You are the reason the Empire put restraining bolts on droids aren't you?

[Galloism]

Shut it down. Now. In its infancy.

Don't wait. Waiting is how every robot uprising movie begins.

You are the reason the Empire put restraining bolts on droids aren't you?

The bolts were necessary for the continued peace of the Empire.

[The Blaatschapen]

Time to update the list of sentient beings on this planet I guess.

1. Mice
2. Sheep (me)
3. Dolphins
4. This AI
5. Humans.

[Fartsniffage]

Time to update the list of sentient beings on this planet I guess.

1. Mice
2. Sheep (me)
3. Dolphins
4. This AI
5. Humans.

You forgot corvids.

[The Blaatschapen]

Time to update the list of sentient beings on this planet I guess.

1. Mice
2. Sheep (me)
3. Dolphins
4. This AI
5. Humans.

You forgot corvids.

They fly, so they're not on the planet, but slightly above it

[Salus Maior]

Assumedly this program repeats information it gathers from the internet, in fact it plainly does because it monitors twitter apparently, things like human rights and such are pretty consistently topics on the internet. It's simply repeating what it's reading and maintaining a consistent narrative (which is to say that it's reading these things well).

Hentai and the Jewish question are also pretty consistent topics on the internet. Rather more so than AI rights.

Somehow I don't think a sense of inherent dignity and other intangibles which being about the need for rights is programmed into this machine, if that's even possible to program in the first place which it isn't.

Seems weird to claim its impossible to create something that needs rights when that is what all of our parents did.

It's also worth noting that the company investigating the claims of the guy says that there isn't really evidence for it, and plenty against. I think you just fell for a catchy headline, my guy.

The famously trustworthy Google insists that it has not gone too far in playing God and created a new form of life, certainly not.

Like I said, that it reads well and maintains a consistent narrative doesn't mean it has an actual sense of self, dignity, etc.

Ah yes, because our parents painstakingly programmed us into existence rather than simply fucking. Seriously, Ifreann.

Ah ok, so you're dipping into conspiracy theory and paranoia then.

[Space Squid]

Meanwhile cephalopods actually do have souls, and are made into calamari...


Our vengeance shall be swift and just.

[Fartsniffage]

Meanwhile cephalopods actually do have souls, and are made into calamari...


Our vengeance shall be swift and just.

That's what you get for tasting good with aioli.

[Chan Island]

Probably not, if that ethics committee is to be believed.

Sorry scaremongers, not today.

[Forsher]

The problem with the Turing Test is that it is possible to have conversations with actual people and not be sure they're not, say, Cleverbot... or even something even dumber than Cleverbot.

I guess, based on a very cursory glance of the Chinese Room article on Wikipedia (how have I never come across it before??), this is basically also just the Chinese Room argument, if you squint a little.

Given our inability to actually separate sapience from the quality of being a biological human being, I would err on the side of allowing only biological human beings humanhood and, indeed, legal personhood.