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Which crime in this thread was the worse so far (Political/War)

Unit 731
2
20%
Bush invading Iraq
0
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coup in Iran
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Assad using chemical weapons and torture
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Stalin
3
30%
Hitler
5
50%
Russia invading Ukraine
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Saskatoon Freezing deaths
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Total votes : 10

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The Aber
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Postby The Aber » Sun Jun 05, 2022 5:40 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
Trivalve wrote:Fair enough, I guess in a way that does make it worse. but then there is the fact on who was more Evil because of it. Lets put it down to the seven deadly sins. I would put Jimmy Savile under Lust and Greed for his 'sexual desires' (lust) and his desire to do it over an over again (greed). For the boys who raped Junko Furata, I would put them under Lust, Greed, Wrath, and pride for the enjoyment of raping her (lust), doing it 500 times (greed), for torturing her whenever they got angry (wrath) and for picking her because she rejected one of the boys (pride)

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Yeah, you've made it pretty obvious.
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The Aber
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Postby The Aber » Sun Jun 05, 2022 5:42 pm

Also, it scares me that I seem to be the only one disturbed by the fact that Gacy had 26 bodies stuffed in his crawl space, left to decompose until his final arrest. Like, there are people still around just like Gacy, some even our neighbors. And it freaks me the fuck out, needless to say.
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Hukhalia
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Postby Hukhalia » Sun Jun 05, 2022 5:44 pm

The Aber wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:not a christian


Yeah, you've made it pretty obvious.

tbf there were a shitton of christian MLs. look at the patriarch of all russia under stalin lmao
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Liberian Imperium
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Postby Liberian Imperium » Sun Jun 05, 2022 5:47 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
The Aber wrote:
Yeah, you've made it pretty obvious.

tbf there were a shitton of christian MLs. look at the patriarch of all russia under stalin lmao


Eyo everybody was a Marxist-Leninist under Stalin, unless they wanted to be dead :lol2:

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Postby Trivalve » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:13 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
Trivalve wrote:Fair enough, I guess in a way that does make it worse. but then there is the fact on who was more Evil because of it. Lets put it down to the seven deadly sins. I would put Jimmy Savile under Lust and Greed for his 'sexual desires' (lust) and his desire to do it over an over again (greed). For the boys who raped Junko Furata, I would put them under Lust, Greed, Wrath, and pride for the enjoyment of raping her (lust), doing it 500 times (greed), for torturing her whenever they got angry (wrath) and for picking her because she rejected one of the boys (pride)

not a christian

You can still follow the example even if your not a Christian
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Postby Adamede » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:16 pm

Trivalve wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:not a christian

You can still follow the example even if your not a Christian

Yah the Bible isn't exactly a book I'd say is a great moral teacher, especially anything from the old test.
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The Human Confederation
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Postby The Human Confederation » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:24 pm

The World Economic Forum, their associates, & everything they have ever done

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The Front Range
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Postby The Front Range » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:40 pm

Dean Corll

He technically got away from any prison sentence, since one of his accomplices, Elmer Henley killed him with a gunshot

It is very likely he would have kept doing it had Henley not shot him, since it was only found when his accomplices confessed when being interrogated about Corll’s murder
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:46 pm

Surprised no one has brought up Issei Sagawa.
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Postby Trivalve » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:28 pm

Necroghastia wrote:Surprised no one has brought up Issei Sagawa.

That's a weird one, though a lot people do get out of punishment for mental illnesses which does beg the question on how many people fake mental illnesses just to get out of trouble
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Postby Perikuresu » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:39 pm

Has anyone brought up Michael Jackson?
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Postby The Front Range » Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:42 pm

Perikuresu wrote:Has anyone brought up Michael Jackson?

I don’t think so

There’s a documentary called “Leaving Neverland” on the matter. It’s pretty good
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Postby Trivalve » Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:47 pm

Perikuresu wrote:Has anyone brought up Michael Jackson?

Nah Michael Jackson has not been brought up yet
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Postby Kubra » Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:23 am

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Marx is just the fall guy, everyone knows Hegel planned for everything that happened.
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Postby Gravlen » Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:40 am

Trivalve wrote:
Gravlen wrote:It's hard to understand what you mean when you say they "got away" when the four main perpetrators in your example were caught, prosecuted and convicted.

I would call their pathetic sentences getting away with it

You would clearly be wrong.

You can think that the sentences the children got were lenient, but in no way did the children get away with their horrible acts of brutality. The children were caught and convicted, and served their time in accordance with the law. That is the exact opposite of getting away with a crime.
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Postby Trivalve » Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:42 am

Gravlen wrote:
Trivalve wrote:I would call their pathetic sentences getting away with it

You would clearly be wrong.

You can think that the sentences the children got were lenient, but in no way did the children get away with their horrible acts of brutality. The children were caught and convicted, and served their time in accordance with the law. That is the exact opposite of getting away with a crime.

I am sorry but I would hardly call it a punishment for what they did, you also seem to be the only one complaining about it as well.
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Postby Countesia » Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:48 am

Amber Heard ruining the credibility of domestic abuse survivors in an attempt to be anything more than a low-tier actress and a pretty face.

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Postby Gravlen » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:04 am

Trivalve wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Surprised no one has brought up Issei Sagawa.

That's a weird one, though a lot people do get out of punishment for mental illnesses which does beg the question on how many people fake mental illnesses just to get out of trouble

Very few. It's quite difficult to fake it, and being found to be not guilty by reason of insanity is a very high threshold to meet.

In the US, the insanity plea is used in less than 1% of all criminal cases, and the US some states have banned the use of the claim as a defense. Meanwhile, in Japan, where the Issei Sagawa case hails from, the use of the defence is rare, and is estimated to happen in only around 1 in 500,000 cases.

Based on this, and especially when looking at the US system, it's a fair bet that more people who actually have severe mental illness are in prison being punished, than the number of people faking mental illness who have gotten away with crimes.
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Postby Trivalve » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:04 am

Countesia wrote:Amber Heard ruining the credibility of domestic abuse survivors in an attempt to be anything more than a low-tier actress and a pretty face.

And to get more money, it was all just a lame attempt on her behalf.
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Postby Gravlen » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:10 am

Trivalve wrote:
Gravlen wrote:You would clearly be wrong.

You can think that the sentences the children got were lenient, but in no way did the children get away with their horrible acts of brutality. The children were caught and convicted, and served their time in accordance with the law. That is the exact opposite of getting away with a crime.

I am sorry but I would hardly call it a punishment for what they did

But it was a punishment nonetheless.

When you're caught and convicted, you simply aren't "getting away with it". Again, that's the exact opposite of the meaning of the term. You being dissatisfied with the severity of the punishment given to the children who got caught and convicted doesn't change that fact.

If you want to talk about how children are treated with kid gloves in the criminal justice system, that's a completely different conversation - one that is predicated on an acknowledgement that being caught and convicted does not equal getting away with a crime.

Trivalve wrote:you also seem to be the only one complaining about it as well.

So what? It doesn't make you any less wrong.
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Trivalve » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:13 am

Gravlen wrote:
Trivalve wrote:I am sorry but I would hardly call it a punishment for what they did

But it was a punishment nonetheless.

When you're caught and convicted, you simply aren't "getting away with it". Again, that's the exact opposite of the meaning of the term. You being dissatisfied with the severity of the punishment given to the children who got caught and convicted doesn't change that fact.

If you want to talk about how children are treated with kid gloves in the criminal justice system, that's a completely different conversation - one that is predicated on an acknowledgement that being caught and convicted does not equal getting away with a crime.

Trivalve wrote:you also seem to be the only one complaining about it as well.

So what? It doesn't make you any less wrong.

At the age of 16 and above 'children' are treated the same as adults in most court systems

I mentioned your complaining because your the only one who has a problem with it, everyone else is getting involved and you just decided to barge in and criticise the thread.
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Postby Countesia » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:15 am

Trivalve wrote:
Countesia wrote:Amber Heard ruining the credibility of domestic abuse survivors in an attempt to be anything more than a low-tier actress and a pretty face.

And to get more money, it was all just a lame attempt on her behalf.


And although some may read this and say "How is that a sickening crime?" well it sickens me personally because all this series of events has done is reinforce the idea that victims of domestic abuse, especially women, are lying.

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Postby Aymes » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:15 am

The Aber wrote:Also, it scares me that I seem to be the only one disturbed by the fact that Gacy had 26 bodies stuffed in his crawl space, left to decompose until his final arrest. Like, there are people still around just like Gacy, some even our neighbors. And it freaks me the fuck out, needless to say.

Everyone is disturbed by it, it’s just that people are probably more mentally desensitized to hearing about serial killers because they read books or watch videos about it.

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Postby Gravlen » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:20 am

Trivalve wrote:
Gravlen wrote:But it was a punishment nonetheless.

When you're caught and convicted, you simply aren't "getting away with it". Again, that's the exact opposite of the meaning of the term. You being dissatisfied with the severity of the punishment given to the children who got caught and convicted doesn't change that fact.

If you want to talk about how children are treated with kid gloves in the criminal justice system, that's a completely different conversation - one that is predicated on an acknowledgement that being caught and convicted does not equal getting away with a crime.


So what? It doesn't make you any less wrong.

At the age of 16 and above 'children' are treated the same as adults in most court systems

Not in Japan, however, where the age of criminal majority was 20 years at the time of the crime.

Trivalve wrote:I mentioned your complaining because your the only one who has a problem with it, everyone else is getting involved and you just decided to barge in and criticise the thread.

So what? Are you or the thread above criticism? Does the fact that I'm the only one challenging it make you any less wrong?
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Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Trivalve » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:24 am

Gravlen wrote:
Trivalve wrote:At the age of 16 and above 'children' are treated the same as adults in most court systems

Not in Japan, however, where the age of criminal majority was 20 years at the time of the crime.

Trivalve wrote:I mentioned your complaining because your the only one who has a problem with it, everyone else is getting involved and you just decided to barge in and criticise the thread.

So what? Are you or the thread above criticism? Does the fact that I'm the only one challenging it make you any less wrong?

I never said you couldn't criticise I was just stating you were the only one who had an issue. I think you took it the wrong way :p
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