The war in Somalia

[Islamic Essarn]

Maybe instead of trying to get rid of this generation of terrorist, the USA should focus on stopping the next generation by actually trying to improve the Somali economy which would stop as manny desperate people join terrorist organizations.

Or better yet, the US can just give the country the middle finger and pull out completely and focus on it's own problems for a change. Let the locals sleep in the bed they have made.

It is so crazy. We, the Somali people, deserve so much more.

Didn't you just tell me in another thread that you currently are living in the US, but consider yourself a citizen of the UK? Now you are one of the people of Somali.

Huh.

You can be both

[Islamic Essarn]

Maybe instead of trying to get rid of this generation of terrorist, the USA should focus on stopping the next generation by actually trying to improve the Somali economy which would stop as manny desperate people join terrorist organizations.

Or better yet, the US can just give the country the middle finger and pull out completely and focus on it's own problems for a change. Let the locals sleep in the bed they have made.

It is so crazy. We, the Somali people, deserve so much more.

Didn't you just tell me in another thread that you currently are living in the US, but consider yourself a citizen of the UK? Now you are one of the people of Somali.

Huh.

On your first idea. : not intervening would be fine if we weren’t some what responsible for Somali problems

[Rusozak]

Or better yet, the US can just give the country the middle finger and pull out completely and focus on it's own problems for a change. Let the locals sleep in the bed they have made.



Didn't you just tell me in another thread that you currently are living in the US, but consider yourself a citizen of the UK? Now you are one of the people of Somali.

Huh.

On your first idea. : not intervening would be fine if we weren’t some what responsible for Somali problems

So... are we saying the Italians should be handling this?

[Shofercia]

Ah Somalia, a country at war since 1991. They actually had an entire generation grow up in a war zone, ain't that crazy? Ironically the currency is called SOS.

It is so crazy. We, the Somali people, deserve so much more.

You've been at war with each other since 1991. Show me a peace proposal that works and I'll support it.

At this point. That's fine. Whenever the usa does something in the islamic world they only make things worse.

This is not true. The United States is the single largest donor of humanitarian assistance in Ethiopia, Kenya, and Somalia, and is responsible for saving millions of Somali lives both in Somalia, and in refugee camps in neighboring countries.

It's just that you never hear about that, and the US never gets a shred of credit for it.

Considering that Somalia's population is only 15 million, I'm going to need a source for that millions of lives claim, as your argument is that the US saved over 13% of Somalia's population with just a few hundred troops seems a bit odd.

On your first idea. : not intervening would be fine if we weren’t some what responsible for Somali problems

So... are we saying the Italians should be handling this?

Comrade Risottia, you've been summoned!

[New Zoigai]

Somalia and Yemen. The ruined state brothers, What do they have in common?

Warring with themselves for an entire generation

[Adamede]

Or better yet, the US can just give the country the middle finger and pull out completely and focus on it's own problems for a change. Let the locals sleep in the bed they have made.



Didn't you just tell me in another thread that you currently are living in the US, but consider yourself a citizen of the UK? Now you are one of the people of Somali.

Huh.

On your first idea. : not intervening would be fine if we weren’t some what responsible for Somali problems

Welp guess we're ging back to Afghanistan.

[Space Squid]

Considering that Somalia's population is only 15 million, I'm going to need a source for that millions of lives claim,

The Somali diaspora numbers over a million almost all of which passed through refugee camps that are primarily fed by USAID. And have been for about 30 years now. USAID has also been responsible for delivering enormous amounts of food aid inside Somalia. "Millions" might be on the edge of hyperbole. But only just. Everyone knows, or should know, what famines in the Horn of Africa are like. A famine in Ethiopia in the 80s killed 1.2 million, and that only lasted 2 years. Somalia, and Somali refugees, have been experiencing food insecurity for about 30 years.

as your argument is that the US saved over 13% of Somalia's population with just a few hundred troops seems a bit odd.

I did not argue that.

[Haganham]

Maybe instead of trying to get rid of this generation of terrorist, the USA should focus on stopping the next generation by actually trying to improve the Somali economy which would stop as manny desperate people join terrorist organizations.

that would require nationbuilding, which we are frankly sick of.
France can have this one.

[New Zoigai]

Maybe instead of trying to get rid of this generation of terrorist, the USA should focus on stopping the next generation by actually trying to improve the Somali economy which would stop as manny desperate people join terrorist organizations.

that would require nationbuilding, which we are frankly sick of.
France can have this one.

For the love of what is left of the Somalian Government and God, Dont give it to france. Because then they are gonna fail and expect the United States to fix it.

[The Aber]

Somalia? In armed conflict? AGAIN?

[New Zoigai]

Somalia? In armed conflict? AGAIN?

No its the same one from the 90s

[The Aber]

Somalia? In armed conflict? AGAIN?

No its the same one from the 90s

You mean to say that they've been fighting non-stop for around 3-4 decades?

[New Zoigai]

No its the same one from the 90s

You mean to say that they've been fighting non-stop for around 3-4 decades?

Crazy right?

[The Aber]

Not even the American Civil War, nor either World Wars lasted that long.

[Haganham]

that would require nationbuilding, which we are frankly sick of.
France can have this one.

For the love of what is left of the Somalian Government and God, Dont give it to france. Because then they are gonna fail and expect the United States to fix it.

ehh, but they are so irritating... :/

[The Aber]

I was gonna say give it to Italy, but...

[Hukhalia]

how about we give it back to the somali people, v. novel idea

[Islamic Essarn]

Maybe instead of trying to get rid of this generation of terrorist, the USA should focus on stopping the next generation by actually trying to improve the Somali economy which would stop as manny desperate people join terrorist organizations.

that would require nationbuilding, which we are frankly sick of.
France can have this one.

No, all it would require is giving them some cows

[Islamic Essarn]

And maybe look at this from a global perspective, it’s not just America.

[Islamic Essarn]

that would require nationbuilding, which we are frankly sick of.
France can have this one.

No, all it would require is giving them some cows

And maybe funding some schools. That is’t nation building it’s supporting the people.

[Islamic Essarn]

how about we give it back to the somali people, v. novel idea

Helping Somalia should not be military, it should be humanitarian.

[Islamic Essarn]

On your first idea. : not intervening would be fine if we weren’t some what responsible for Somali problems

Welp guess we're ging back to Afghanistan.

We should help Afghanistan, we should’ve go into it though.

[Bear Stearns]

fuck yeah! I love CIA black ops where the true intention is hidden from the American public. The neoliberal war state takes care of business to spread democracy even if it means regime change and aligning with warlords and drug traffickers. USA! USA! USA!

[-Astoria-]

No its the same one from the 90s

You mean to say that they've been fighting non-stop for around 3-4 decades?

It's been a bit on the back-burner in terms of front-page news, but yes.

[Hukhalia]

how about we give it back to the somali people, v. novel idea

Helping Somalia should not be military, it should be humanitarian.

i literally agree.