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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:07 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
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I think that would send a message such comments will not longer be tolerated. You could also ban police unions.

So the solution to the police being too militarized is to make them even more militarized?


Not what I said.

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Postby American Legionaries » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:08 pm

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Yes, but as we've covered previously, banning unions and retaliating against union activity is a crime, and shitty.

police unions do nothing except cover up wrongdoing and advocate officers must be praised no matter what.


Yes, yes, unions bad, workers should suffer, Lumen hates the poor. Do you have new things to say?

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:09 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:So the solution to the police being too militarized is to make them even more militarized?


Not what I said.

You did, you said ban police unions.

If you ban police unions, they effectively are the military.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Even if you did ban the police union...cops spend all day at work with other cops, their bosses are all cops, and when they're off duty they probably hang out at cop bars with other cops. They'll have their Fraternal Order whether officially or unofficially.


Fine when the union president says something reprehensible like blaming the mayor for a cop murder they get fired. Such comments shouldn’t be tolerated.

Fired by who? Who do you think employs the union president?

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Postby Heloin » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:31 pm

Ifreann wrote:
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Fine when the union president says something reprehensible like blaming the mayor for a cop murder they get fired. Such comments shouldn’t be tolerated.

Fired by who? Who do you think employs the union president?

I don't know if Lumen knows how unions work.

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Postby Kannap » Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:46 pm

Heloin wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Fired by who? Who do you think employs the union president?

I don't know if Lumen knows how unions work.


Of course not, unions are icky things that socialists like Bernie Sanders support. No self-respecting Democrat would be caught dead opposing capital. :p
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:11 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Not what I said.

You did, you said ban police unions.

If you ban police unions, they effectively are the military.


How?

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Postby Adamede » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:You did, you said ban police unions.

If you ban police unions, they effectively are the military.


How?

Military isn't allowed to unionize. jUts have to deal with what you're given and ordered to do.
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