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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:57 pm

Australiem wrote:
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racist much?


Yes and?


I wouldnt be proud of it. Attitudes like yours is why there is such a poor relationship between the police and the community in some areas.

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Postby Heloin » Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Heloin wrote:Yes. It's a better solution than their continued existence.


What replaces them?

No one would be better.

Who is going to enforce the law and maintain order?

Local communities themselves. You don't need a professional armed wing of the state mostly meant solely for keeping some draconian idea of order.

Real easy to be edgy when you have no alternative.

Nothing is a legitimate alternative. You don't have to be an arse about it.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:59 pm

Heloin wrote:
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What replaces them?

No one would be better.

Who is going to enforce the law and maintain order?

Local communities themselves. You don't need a professional armed wing of the state mostly meant solely for keeping some draconian idea of order.

Real easy to be edgy when you have no alternative.

It's not edgy, nothing is a legitimate alternative. You don't have to be an arse about it.


You said you want no police. Saying local communities is a police force.

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Postby Heloin » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Heloin wrote:No one would be better.


Local communities themselves. You don't need a professional armed wing of the state mostly meant solely for keeping some draconian idea of order.


It's not edgy, nothing is a legitimate alternative. You don't have to be an arse about it.


You said you want no police. Saying local communities is a police force.

No, that's more of a lack of imagination by your part. If you think that a local community taking care of itself is similar to a riot squad then you're in for a rough time matey.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:22 pm

Heloin wrote:
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You said you want no police. Saying local communities is a police force.

No, that's more of a lack of imagination by your part. If you think that a local community taking care of itself is similar to a riot squad then you're in for a rough time matey.


Who is doing the policing then?

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Postby Australiem » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:28 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Australiem wrote:
Yes and?


I wouldnt be proud of it. Attitudes like yours is why there is such a poor relationship between the police and the community in some areas.


Good, maybe they should be afraid of police since in those areas a lot of crime happens with minorities. So I think they should be afraid, but unfortunately they have not much to really worry about since most police don't have the guts to do what's right. So this is why I say we need to change the police, but not defund. Since police in my opinion do not have enough power and should have more.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:36 pm

Australiem wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I wouldnt be proud of it. Attitudes like yours is why there is such a poor relationship between the police and the community in some areas.


Good, maybe they should be afraid of police since in those areas a lot of crime happens with minorities. So I think they should be afraid, but unfortunately they have not much to really worry about since most police don't have the guts to do what's right. So this is why I say we need to change the police, but not defund. Since police in my opinion do not have enough power and should have more.


Your proposal would only make things worse.

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Postby American Legionaries » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Heloin wrote:No, that's more of a lack of imagination by your part. If you think that a local community taking care of itself is similar to a riot squad then you're in for a rough time matey.


Who is doing the policing then?


Nobody, that's the point.

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Postby Australiem » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Australiem wrote:
Good, maybe they should be afraid of police since in those areas a lot of crime happens with minorities. So I think they should be afraid, but unfortunately they have not much to really worry about since most police don't have the guts to do what's right. So this is why I say we need to change the police, but not defund. Since police in my opinion do not have enough power and should have more.


Your proposal would only make things worse.


Not if those people are all gone....

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:44 pm

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Who is doing the policing then?


Nobody, that's the point.


Somalia is not where you want to live.

Australiem wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Your proposal would only make things worse.


Not if those people are all gone....


Excuse me? You want the police to commit genocide?

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Postby Australiem » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:47 pm

San Lumen wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Nobody, that's the point.


Somalia is not where you want to live.

Australiem wrote:
Not if those people are all gone....


Excuse me? You want the police to commit genocide?



You said it, not me.
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Postby American Legionaries » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Nobody, that's the point.


Somalia is not where you want to live.

Australiem wrote:
Not if those people are all gone....


Excuse me? You want the police to commit genocide?


I'll decide what I want, not you.

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Postby Australiem » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:49 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Somalia is not where you want to live.



Excuse me? You want the police to commit genocide?


I'll decide what I want, not you.


What?

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:49 pm

Australiem wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Somalia is not where you want to live.



Excuse me? You want the police to commit genocide?



You said it, not me.


What did you mean by not if all those people are gone? Whose going to commit this genocide?

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:50 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Somalia is not where you want to live.



Excuse me? You want the police to commit genocide?


I'll decide what I want, not you.


Go move to Mogadishu then.

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Australiem
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Postby Australiem » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Australiem wrote:

You said it, not me.


What did you mean by not if all those people are gone? Whose going to commit this genocide?


The new reformed police force of course.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:53 pm

Australiem wrote:
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What did you mean by not if all those people are gone? Whose going to commit this genocide?


The new reformed police force of course.


Consisting of who? White supremacists?

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Postby American Legionaries » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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I'll decide what I want, not you.


Go move to Mogadishu then.


Right after you move to Beijing...

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Australiem
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Postby Australiem » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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The new reformed police force of course.


Consisting of who? White supremacists?


I mean, I do enjoy a bit of white supremacy with my cup of tea.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:58 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
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Go move to Mogadishu then.


Right after you move to Beijing...


Why would I?

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:59 pm

Australiem wrote:
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Consisting of who? White supremacists?


I mean, I do enjoy a bit of white supremacy with my cup of tea.


White supremacy isn’t something to be proud of. Any police chief who called for genocide would be ousted as would any officer who attempted it.

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Postby American Legionaries » Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Right after you move to Beijing...


Why would I?


Well you seem to like police doing police stuff, thought you'd enjoy a nice oppressive police state.

Or, alternatively, we could cut the shit and stop making stupid statements like "move to Mogadishu".

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:02 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why would I?


Well you seem to like police doing police stuff, thought you'd enjoy a nice oppressive police state.

Or, alternatively, we could cut the shit and stop making stupid statements like "move to Mogadishu".


I never endorsed oppression.

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Postby Australiem » Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Australiem wrote:
I mean, I do enjoy a bit of white supremacy with my cup of tea.


White supremacy isn’t something to be proud of. Any police chief who called for genocide would be ousted as would any officer who attempted it.


not to be proud of. Well, I am sure as hell proud of it and I am proud of my race. This is why we need to reform the police to get out the others and retake the country. So yes, let's all work as one. Let's reform this police force rather than defund. You get a changed police force and I get the genocide I want. Everyone wins, except for the people who are being genocided.

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Postby American Legionaries » Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Well you seem to like police doing police stuff, thought you'd enjoy a nice oppressive police state.

Or, alternatively, we could cut the shit and stop making stupid statements like "move to Mogadishu".


I never endorsed oppression.


But I endorsed warlordism and famine?

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