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Postby Page » Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:58 am

You have to get a shitty job. You have the following five choices. Assume that you will net the same income no matter which you choose and assume that you can get away with lying to your friends and family about your job if you want to. Choose based on whatever criteria you want, whether it be the ethics of the work or what you can personally endure, but explain the reason for your choice. Also feel free to say which job you'd want the least, which job you'd refuse to do even if it would leave you destitute, and/or rank the jobs from most to least desirable.

1) Walmart - You have to work on the floor of a Walmart run by an insufferable prick of a manager. Your manager controls you in every way from telling you what kind of haircut to have to prescheduling your bathroom breaks. He's the kind of human garbage who says "hey is for horses" and harps on the "can I?" vs. "may I" thing like your 4th grade English teacher. He expects you to actually love your job and care about the company or to at least give a Meryl Streep tier performance. Sometimes he demands you empty your pockets before you leave to check if you've stolen anything. He also demands you snitch on your coworkers for every minor infraction, and if you go too long without snitching, you'll be fired. For what it's worth, your coworkers are all chill people who hate his guts and talk shit about him whenever he's not around, and you can collude with them to pre-plan who snitches on who so that no one gets screwed over too bad.

2) Cam - You are a self-employed cam girl/guy who does solo porn for a paying live audience. Some of you patrons are major league weirdos so in addition to the usual fare, you will sometimes be asked to simulate self-harm (with movie props and fake blood and such) or to recite stories of you being abused in the past, which can be fictional but you really have to sell it, or to sit in a pie and weep. You're behind a paywall on a niche corner of the dark web so it's unlikely anyone you know will ever discover you. Most of your patrons are friendly and praise you, while a few are mean, and others form extremely unhealthy parasocial relationships with you. Once in awhile you may find one of your patron's partners in your chat room to tell you how their obsession with you ruined their marriage, but you can kick them out and block them.

3) Begging - You are part of a highly organized team of some 50 people who go out every day to panhandle. The team evenly splits the aggregate income of the day among all members, so if you personally have a bad day, you'll still get paid, and if you have a really good day, you won't keep all your earnings. The team also shares advice on the best places to beg, the most effective sob stories, and how to make yourself look like you're missing a leg or look blind and all that. Panhandling isn't illegal in your town but the police are jerks, so you can sometimes expect to chased away or roughed up or to spend a single night in jail on charges that won't stick. On average, you can expect to be tazed about once every 18 months.

4) MLM - This is a barely legal pyramid scheme, but you're getting in close to the ground level, so you can expect to make some decent money while the people a few levels beneath you get screwed over. You sell yoga accessories and kits for homemade wine, primarily to bored single white moms. There are a lot of nearby affluent neighborhoods, so if you feel too bad about ripping off people living paycheck to paycheck, you can rip off well to do housewives who can afford to burn a few thousand dollars, though maybe they'll have to fly coach to Paris next summer and trade in their SUV's for something more fuel efficient. The guy at the top of the pyramid will already have a new MLM set up by the time this one collapses and will let you get in near the ground floor again, so you can do this indefinitely.

5) Crime - You work on a narcotics assembly line, preparing and packaging drugs to be shipped out to dealers. Sometimes you're cutting stems off bud, sometimes you're pressing MDMA into capsules, sometimes you're breaking up crystal meth, etc. You're under surveillance by people with guns, but their only concern is that you don't steal the product. If you prove yourself trustworthy in that regard then no one will hassle you. Your coworkers are friendly and interesting people, a lot of them undocumented immigrants, so you may end up getting invited over for dinner and get to sample exotic cuisines. The work is boring and tedious, but you can wear headphones or watch movies on iPads or come to work drunk, as long as the work is done correctly. You see and hear a lot so if the operation gets busted, you can flip on the higher-ups in exchange for full immunity, and you won't have to worry about being hunted down and killed because the dude you flip on will subsequently try to flip on his boss, and that dude will be killed, and no one will remember you.


My ranking (from best to worst):

Cam
Crime
Begging
Walmart
MLM

I think Cam is the best job because it's the only one that actually makes anyone happy. I put Crime in second as I consider it neutral both ethically and in terms of how much I'd enjoy or hate it. I put Begging above Walmart because I'd rather deal with an asshole cop from time to time than deal with an asshole manager all day long, and I put MLM last because even though it's probably less miserable than Walmart, it's the most dishonest and I'd have to pretend to give a shit anyway, in order to sell the products.
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Postby Arpasia » Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:03 am

I think working at a local Walmart, or in my case, any convenience store for that matter, would make for the most bearable choice of the bunch in my opinion. I'm aware that jobs like these involve getting yelled at by your branch manager or a customer and other associated problems, but if it can result in me receiving a steady stream of money, I'd sign up to work there.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:13 am

I choose cam.

I'm already sexy, so why not flaunt it and earn money with it 8)
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:22 am

Walmart,
mainly because there is something I can do about it to change the situation.

Simply record his conversations with you, put one copy in the cloud send the other to HR with a complaint. Dont like that result, send it to the local paper or state government.


2nd. Crime.
Mainly as you define it. I think drugs should be available to the masses.
I am Not mugging little old ladies, i am working a production line, what is the benefit package? they have an opening in QC? Do we label our products accurately?. " When you buy Ethel inc drugs what we say is what you get"

the others I am uninterested in since there are such good opportunities at Walmart and Crime
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Postby Arpasia » Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:39 am

Ethel mermania wrote:Walmart,
mainly because there is something I can do about it to change the situation.

Simply record his conversations with you, put one copy in the cloud send the other to HR with a complaint. Dont like that result, send it to the local paper or state government.


2nd. Crime.
Mainly as you define it. I think drugs should be available to the masses.
I am Not mugging little old ladies, i am working a production line, what is the benefit package? they have an opening in QC? Do we label our products accurately?. " When you buy Ethel inc drugs what we say is what you get"

the others I am uninterested in since there are such good opportunities at Walmart and Crime

Yeah, that's what I had in mind too, find evidence of the store manager performing misconduct, then report it to the authorities.
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Postby Kerwa » Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:46 am

Walmart or crime.

Walmart because I am an expert at skiving and don’t care what fucksticks say to me.

Crime because it’s crime.

Though I might get a girlfriend and make her do the camgirl stuff and just live off that.

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Postby Forsher » Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:50 am

Kerwa wrote:Though I might get a girlfriend and make her do the camgirl stuff and just live off that.


I assume this is the criminal version of you?
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Postby Kerwa » Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:56 am

Forsher wrote:
Kerwa wrote:Though I might get a girlfriend and make her do the camgirl stuff and just live off that.


I assume this is the criminal version of you?


I’ll just say I’m her “agent”. Perfectly legal,

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Postby Chan Island » Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:58 am

Ranks for me look like this:

Cam, MLM, Crime, Walmart, Begging.

Cam is top because there's both the scope to make serious money and also for getting creative in it, which is very important to me personally. Sure, it's degrading, but I'm rarely if ever actually dealing with people in real life, so can very easily keep my private life similar to my current one.

MLM is second because there's a veneer of legitimacy that I could live with ("Oh, I'm just a yoga kits salesman...") despite my virulent dislike of charlatans, and the direct harm being done to those below me in the scheme.

Crime is middle, and I'd be truly desperate to do it. I don't react very well to having guns pointed at me all day long, and the risk of the law is a stress I really don't need. It also sounds like the kind of place where "busted" entails a full on gun battle with swat, and hey, I'm not in a hurry to die in a crossfire over drugs.

Walmart. Probably not all that bad a job in and of itself, but with that manager you describe it transforms into a daily, living hell. Enforcing a terrible work culture that I'd certainly burnout of.

Last is begging, and it's not even a contest. Degrading, brushes with the law, no incentives to put effort into it, people I know in real life finding out completely inevitable, outside (and in a bad way), unavoidably dishonest, guarantee of physical harm, no prospects for the future.... the list goes on and on. This is a recipe for suicide.
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Postby Forsher » Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:00 am

Kerwa wrote:
Forsher wrote:
I assume this is the criminal version of you?


I’ll just say I’m her “agent”. Perfectly legal,


If that's the way you want to play it, have a son, wait twenty years and sell him to PSG or wherever.

If you're lucky, women's sport may have advanced that a girl will work, too. Of course, you can also dad coach tennis, but that will require more effort on your part.
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Postby Survivors of Yekaterinburg » Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:02 am

Crime.
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Postby Meguminsk » Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:07 am

I'd go with crime for that Breaking Bad experience (and it's not like I'm not proactively harming anybody)
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Given the choices, I'd have to take working at Walmart, hands-down.
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Postby Cantport » Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:14 am

From least bad to worst
Wallmart first because it's more moral than the others.
Then MLM, which you described as legal.
Begging is worse because people will assume you have no other option (rather than just don't want to do Wallmart or MLM) so it's wrong.
Then crime, because it's illegal and immoral.
Then cam, because as well as being the most unpleasant IMO your also stimulate unhealthy interests in abusing people (as per the OP) and ruin marriages apparently.
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Forsher wrote:
I assume this is the criminal version of you?


I’ll just say I’m her “agent”. Perfectly legal,

What do you mean by "make her"?
That's the bit that sounds illegal
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Postby Hukhalia » Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:35 am

Crime easily. Walmart is boring wagie shit, ripping off white women sounds like too much effort, begging just feels wrong, and i'm fundamentally too gorgeous for anyone to afford me as a cam star
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:10 am

I obey the law, not because I respect the law (I live in one of those highly regimented conservative hellpits), but because I am a naturally paranoid person by inclination and the possibility of consequences terrify me. If I am reasonably reassured that I’m not going to be suffering the consequences of crime (which, in your scenario, I am), suddenly the prospect of a career in the black market looks a lot more appealing to me.

So to answer your question:

Having a respectful professional relationship with people that I work with/for is important to me. So Walmart and Cam are both right out - I’d rather not deal with a terrible boss or creeps on the internet.

Of the other three... Crime and MLM would be my preferences, with Begging coming in third (personal dignity is a significant but not overriding consideration for me). If I have to make a top pick then MLM first, Crime second, Begging third, and the other two would be my no-goes.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:51 am

Crime.

Dealing drugs is the most dignified option of the bunch...
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You should make a poll.

Anyway, begging. Sure, I might get bullied by the cops, but at least I'm part of a trade union style organisation, and have a community to work together with and share my income with. "No incentive to work hard"...capitalist. I'll work hard for everyone, and everyone will work hard for me.

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Crime, simply because it's pretty much exactly what I do already (assembly) but under armed guard and since I have no interest in drugs there shouldn't be any problem.
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Camming isn't really a terrible job, it is the best way to start a career with sex work. I mean chaturbate is kinda terrible but once you get enough, you make your own OnlyFans and not too bad.

Being trans and queer myself I know tons of people who do it or have done sex work (even full service) the money is really good and you'll be in control unless you're being pimped out by an abusive partner, which has happened. Retail sucks, I'd never go back. MLMs are never worth it. And that leaves crime and begging. Well, depending on the nature it may pay or may not, but panhandling may happen regardless.
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Postby Hukhalia » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:32 am

Auzkhia wrote:Camming isn't really a terrible job, it is the best way to start a career with sex work. I mean chaturbate is kinda terrible but once you get enough, you make your own OnlyFans and not too bad.

Being trans and queer myself I know tons of people who do it or have done sex work (even full service) the money is really good and you'll be in control unless you're being pimped out by an abusive partner, which has happened. Retail sucks, I'd never go back. MLMs are never worth it. And that leaves crime and begging. Well, depending on the nature it may pay or may not, but panhandling may happen regardless.

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Postby Valentine Z » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:36 am

Tied between Cam and Walmart. Crime, err.... give me a henchman part, not the drug handling part.

Begging comes next. Doesn't feel right, unless like I am absolutely down on my luck with no way of getting another job. Not something out of choice.

MLM, I will never do. It's my consensus that regardless of who I am supposed to target, I will never, ever become part of a MLM. This you can absolutely rely on me.
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Postby Rusozak » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:00 am

When I read the first option as Walmart, I thought to myself, "definitely not that one." But then as I read how horrible the other options were, I understand now why people work for Walmart.
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Postby Cantport » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:13 am

Hukhalia wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:Camming isn't really a terrible job, it is the best way to start a career with sex work. I mean chaturbate is kinda terrible but once you get enough, you make your own OnlyFans and not too bad.

Being trans and queer myself I know tons of people who do it or have done sex work (even full service) the money is really good and you'll be in control unless you're being pimped out by an abusive partner, which has happened. Retail sucks, I'd never go back. MLMs are never worth it. And that leaves crime and begging. Well, depending on the nature it may pay or may not, but panhandling may happen regardless.

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