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War Thunder strikes again with the classified docs

Postby Picairn » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:15 pm

Do you remember when a British tank crew member leaked classified info about the Challenger 2 on War Thunder forums to win an argument?

Well, War Thunder just dropped a new leak again, this time with a Chinese MBT crew member posting an instruction manual of the Chinese DCT10 125mm APFSDS shell for the ZTZ-99A (Type 99A) tank.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/stat ... eM6JA&s=19

Video going in depth about it: https://youtu.be/CUiqxyfzjns

Apparently the guy posted the classified info on the Chinese website, then War Thunder users picked it up and spread it into the English sphere.

FYI the image is making rounds on Twitter with someone already making a translation of it, but I'm not going to post classified material, so seek it yourself.

I just want to share this with you guys because it's fucking hilarious, this is like the 3rd time or something already, after the Challenger and the Leclerc leaks. Your thoughts NSG?
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Postby Heloin » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:19 pm

War Thunder accidentally being one of the best tools of espionage for information on tanks is the funniest outcome possible.
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:22 pm

Heloin wrote:War Thunder accidentally being one of the best tools of espionage for information on tanks is the funniest outcome possible.


Gaijin needs to make a game where you develop nuclear bombs and ballistic missile delivery systems.

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Postby Arpasia » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:23 pm

Next, you'll be telling me that info regarding the TR38 Black Manta has been leaked in the War Thunder forums.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:23 pm

If I had a nickel for every time a salty War Thunder player leaked classified military info to change game balance, I'd have 3 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it is damn funny it's happened that many times.
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Postby Aamayska » Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:47 am

I wish Gaijin would at least use the documents to update their models. I really want to see just how far people would be willing to go.

That being said, it's a decision I imagine everyone with access to that type of information that also plays War Thunder struggles with on a daily basis. On the one hand you get fifteen to life for treason, but on the other hand you get to be definitively right on the internet- truly a once in a lifetime opportunity.

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Postby Gonswanza » Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:51 am

Aamayska wrote:I wish Gaijin would at least use the documents to update their models. I really want to see just how far people would be willing to go.

That being said, it's a decision I imagine everyone with access to that type of information that also plays War Thunder struggles with on a daily basis. On the one hand you get fifteen to life for treason, but on the other hand you get to be definitively right on the internet- truly a once in a lifetime opportunity.

The devs legally can't use the information as they'd face persecution not only from local gov't (Russian in their case) but also from international courts, given that rather than asking for declassified information they are instead using ILLEGALLY LEAKED DOCUMENTS FROM A CLEARLY ILLEGAL SOURCE.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 02, 2022 5:45 am

Maybe someone should make a free-to-play game where you take the role of an intelligence agent, see what we can get leaked from the CIA.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:37 am

Sounds like someone just won an all-expenses paid trip for him and his entire family to a re-education camp...
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Postby Gonswanza » Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:38 am

Ifreann wrote:Maybe someone should make a free-to-play game where you take the role of an intelligence agent, see what we can get leaked from the CIA.

Absolutely based mindset.
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Postby Page » Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:43 am

I approve of all leaks though I don't know how one might use this one to their advantage.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:43 am

Page wrote:I approve of all leaks though I don't know how one might use this one to their advantage.

In getting the devs to buff your favourite tank.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:56 am

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:57 am

Ifreann wrote:
Page wrote:I approve of all leaks though I don't know how one might use this one to their advantage.

In getting the devs to buff your favourite tank.


From what I've heard the documents actually wouldn't do that and a full examination seems to show the round is worse irl than it was in game. That is an unmatched self-own, if true.
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Postby Gonswanza » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:00 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In getting the devs to buff your favourite tank.


From what I've heard the documents actually wouldn't do that and a full examination seems to show the round is worse irl than it was in game. That is unmatched self-own, if true.

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Military secrets be damned! Video games are serious business!


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:03 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In getting the devs to buff your favourite tank.


From what I've heard the documents actually wouldn't do that and a full examination seems to show the round is worse irl than it was in game. That is an unmatched self-own, if true.

Getting the devs to nerf your least favourite tank to fight?

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Postby Chan Island » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:07 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:If I had a nickel for every time a salty War Thunder player leaked classified military info to change game balance, I'd have 3 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it is damn funny it's happened that many times.


How dare you steal the exact line i was going to say.

Damn if it isn't funny though.
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Postby Sorci » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:12 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:If I had a nickel for every time a salty War Thunder player leaked classified military info to change game balance, I'd have 3 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it is damn funny it's happened that many times.

Funny enough, it's not just 3 nickles, it's 6!

War Thunder, at this point it's probably an intelligence operation
We've gotten leaks on ...
the Eurocopter Tiger
2 separate times on the Challenger 2 (British)
the Leclerc tank (French)
A chinese tank
And the most recent one, the capabilities of a top secret chinese APFSDS round. (Turns out it's less capable than we thought it was)

There might be a 7th from the US Army about something, but I couldn't find proof just yet.
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Postby Striagro Uspil » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:28 am

Sorci wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:If I had a nickel for every time a salty War Thunder player leaked classified military info to change game balance, I'd have 3 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it is damn funny it's happened that many times.

Funny enough, it's not just 3 nickles, it's 6!

War Thunder, at this point it's probably an intelligence operation


Wow, I can easily see someone turning this into a Nationstates issues with the options ranging from sweeping it under the rug/punishing any leakers to actually turning the game into an official intelligence operation
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Postby Chan Island » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:31 am

Striagro Uspil wrote:
Sorci wrote:Funny enough, it's not just 3 nickles, it's 6!

War Thunder, at this point it's probably an intelligence operation


Wow, I can easily see someone turning this into a Nationstates issues with the options ranging from sweeping it under the rug/punishing any leakers to actually turning the game into an official intelligence operation


I swear it must be.

.... and if not, well, there is an issue writing contest on right now....
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:40 am

i do not CARE about your 'military secrets', someone else on the internet is WRONG
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:51 am

Sorci wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:If I had a nickel for every time a salty War Thunder player leaked classified military info to change game balance, I'd have 3 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it is damn funny it's happened that many times.

Funny enough, it's not just 3 nickles, it's 6!

War Thunder, at this point it's probably an intelligence operation
We've gotten leaks on ...
the Eurocopter Tiger
2 separate times on the Challenger 2 (British)
the Leclerc tank (French)
A chinese tank
And the most recent one, the capabilities of a top secret chinese APFSDS round. (Turns out it's less capable than we thought it was)

There might be a 7th from the US Army about something, but I couldn't find proof just yet.

Never underestimate the lengths gamers will go to prove that it wasn't their fault they lost, the stats on their tanks were just all wrong.

If this goes on any further I won't be surprised if War Thunder comes out with some kind of statement begging veterans to not share state secrets.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:52 am

Chan Island wrote:Loose lips sink ships...in war thunder.

That would require people to actually play naval...
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Postby Striagro Uspil » Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:00 am

Chan Island wrote:.... and if not, well, there is an issue writing contest on right now....


Is there really? Can someone link me to the thread? Its been awhile since I've used the site so i'm not that good at navigating it yet.
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