UK Politics Thread X: Upcoming Local Elections in May

[Greater Kuomintang China]

Can I still boast about my sexual conquests of men?

It's not misogyny

Exactly my point. It's an uneven law against one gender in alleged protection of the other, creating a protected and advantaged class, dare I say an elite or upper class, at the expense of another, based upon the subjectively wounded emotions of the favored class or gender. People could get thrown in jail for something that they did with the supposed victim when they were in a relationship with that person, just because that relationship went sour. That kind of thing.

It's not equality. It's not justice. It's nothing but female supremacy.

[Vassenor]

It never ceases to amaze me how many people get incensed at the idea of sexual harassment being a crime.

You want sexual harassment defined as anything that subjectively offends one person, regardless about whether or not it actually involves pressure, coercion, or retaliation? You really want hurt feelings to be the determinative factor in deciding what is or isn't a crime? With real, enforceable sanctions and penalties over hurt feelings, applied unevenly against one gender, and subjectively based upon whether or not those comments are from an attractive person?

It's Orwellian. And it will almost certainly cause abuses....and probably a brain drain or something to that effect. Do any radical feminists not realize how insane these kinds of policies are?

Care to show the class where I said I wanted those specific things using those exact words?

[Greater Kuomintang China]

You want sexual harassment defined as anything that subjectively offends one person, regardless about whether or not it actually involves pressure, coercion, or retaliation? You really want hurt feelings to be the determinative factor in deciding what is or isn't a crime? With real, enforceable sanctions and penalties over hurt feelings, applied unevenly against one gender, and subjectively based upon whether or not those comments are from an attractive person?

It's Orwellian. And it will almost certainly cause abuses....and probably a brain drain or something to that effect. Do any radical feminists not realize how insane these kinds of policies are?

Care to show the class where I said I wanted those specific things using those exact words?

You support a law that will have those exact effects by claiming that those who oppose said law want to keep sexual harassment legal or rather make it legal, since it was already illegal.

[Vassenor]

Care to show the class where I said I wanted those specific things using those exact words?

You support a law that will have those exact effects by claiming that those who oppose said law want to keep sexual harassment legal or rather make it legal, since it was already illegal.

Care to show the class where I said that?

[Celritannia]

It is illegal, because how do you stop the boats? The Royal Navy? Coast Guard?
Under Maritime law, and the ECHR, there is a duty to save lives when in danger, which means the migrants must be brought into the UK if they are in danger when attempting to cross the channel, and because the UK left the EU, the UK cannot send them back to the EU. This also does not go into the fact that you cannot send people back to countries where they face the possibility of death.

Didn't realise you were a ECHR judge qualified to make such rulings and that you'd actually read the bill before it has been finalised Celt. It's pretty much inevitable it's going to get challenged in the courts, so I suggest instead of LARPing as a judge, we let the actual judges do their job with the details and the facts to hand, right?

I am not making any ruling, nor am I LARPing as a judge. I am pointing out what the ECHR states, which anyone can do.

[Greater Kuomintang China]

You support a law that will have those exact effects by claiming that those who oppose said law want to keep sexual harassment legal or rather make it legal, since it was already illegal.

Care to show the class where I said that?

You alluded to me being "incensed that sexual harassment is a crime."

[Vassenor]

Care to show the class where I said that?

You alluded to me being "incensed that sexual harassment is a crime."

So how does that equate to me supporting the provisions of this specific proposal?

[Greater Kuomintang China]

You alluded to me being "incensed that sexual harassment is a crime."

So how does that equate to me supporting the provisions of this specific proposal?

You said this immediately after I critiqued the proposed legislation. The context highly implied it.

[Vassenor]

So how does that equate to me supporting the provisions of this specific proposal?

You said this immediately after I critiqued the proposed legislation. The context highly implied it.

So you can’t show me supporting the provisions of this proposal.

[Fartsniffage]

You said this immediately after I critiqued the proposed legislation. The context highly implied it.

So you can’t show me supporting the provisions of this proposal.

Do you support the provisions of this proposal?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Only 16% of DUP voters back Sunak's NI deal

Only 16% of Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party voters would back British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's recent deal with the European Union on post-Brexit trade rules if a referendum were held, a poll showed on Saturday.

The survey by polling company LucidTalk for the Belfast Telegraph newspaper found that just 38% of the region's wider unionist electorate would vote in favour of the Windsor Framework agreement if a referendum were held.

While 73% of DUP voters and 50% of unionist voters would oppose the deal, 67% of all voters in the region were in favour thanks to strong support among nationalists, the poll showed.

Depressingly as expected.

Full breakdown via a graph from the poll:

Attitude towards Windsor Framework by NI Political Group:

NI Representative Result:
Accept: 67%
Reject: 27%
Not Sure: 6%

Nationalists:
Accept: 97%
Reject: 2%
Not Sure: 1%

Unionists:
Accept: 38%
Reject: 50%
Not Sure: 12%

Alliance/Others:
Accept: 98%
Reject: 0%
Not Sure: 2%

The UUP is the only Unionist party that has a majority supporting the Windsor Framework with 56% support. TUV and DUP overwhelmingly reject it.

More info: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 42991.html

[El Lazaro]

[Snipped because fixed]
Some of the categories are mixed up. The Nationalists shows the overall results, and the Unionists shows the nationalist results.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Full breakdown via a graph from the poll:

Attitude towards Windsor Framework by NI Political Group:

NI Representative Result:
Accept:
Reject:
Not Sure:

Nationalists:
Accept: 67%
Reject: 27%
Not Sure: 6%

Unionists:
Accept: 97%
Reject: 2%
Not Sure: 1%

Alliance/Others:
Accept: 98%
Reject: 0%
Not Sure: 2%

The UUP is the only Unionist party that has a majority supporting the Windsor Framework with 56% support. TUV and DUP overwhelmingly reject it.

More info: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 42991.html

Some of the categories are mixed up. The Nationalists shows the overall results, and the Unionists shows the nationalist results.

Ah thanks i didnt even notice i did that lol

[Mtwara]

Can I still boast about my sexual conquests of men?

It's not misogyny

What happens if you''re gender fluid, and a man who boasts of your sexual conquests of women when you present like a man but identify as a woman...

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Yousaf might use snap election to secure independence

Humza Yousaf has said he would consider a snap Holyrood election as part of a strategy to secure independence.

The SNP leadership contender also dismissed suggestions he was simply the continuity candidate.

And he told BBC Scotland's The Sunday Show he would need assurances before serving in a Kate Forbes cabinet if she won the contest.

Seems like a while since any of the candidates actually mentioned independence.

[Saor Alba]

Mind you, I stopped watching MOTD over 20 years ago. So long as the Scotland - Ireland rugby's still on the BBC tomorrow, I'm fine.

Knowing how we play, I would prefer if it wasn't on...

[Ifreann]

Mind you, I stopped watching MOTD over 20 years ago. So long as the Scotland - Ireland rugby's still on the BBC tomorrow, I'm fine.

Knowing how we play, I would prefer if it wasn't on...

I don't think you'll make it easy, and aside from the Grand Slam it's all on the line for both of us. Should be a good game.

[The Archregimancy]

Can confirm that the BBC coverage of the rugby is on as normal.

Olivia Hogg didn't seem very happy about her father carrying her on to the pitch to recognise his 100th cap.

Knowing how we play, I would prefer if it wasn't on...

I don't think you'll make it easy, and aside from the Grand Slam it's all on the line for both of us. Should be a good game.

And let's not forget that the winner will be the number 1-ranked team in world rugby.

I'm not sure my mental map of Scottish rugby can quite adjust to that possibility.

[The Huskar Social Union]

GO ON IRELAND WOOOOOOO- Ahem, i hope both teams have fun in todays Rugby match.

[Saor Alba]

Knowing how we play, I would prefer if it wasn't on...

I don't think you'll make it easy, and aside from the Grand Slam it's all on the line for both of us. Should be a good game.

I hope that is the case. I think we are in good form at present but this Ireland team is playing great.

[Ifreann]

Can confirm that the BBC coverage of the rugby is on as normal.

Olivia Hogg didn't seem very happy about her father carrying her on to the pitch to recognise his 100th cap.

I don't think you'll make it easy, and aside from the Grand Slam it's all on the line for both of us. Should be a good game.

And let's not forget that the winner will be the number 1-ranked team in world rugby.

I'm not sure my mental map of Scottish rugby can quite adjust to that possibility.

I can confirm that it is very strange to think about Ireland being the best in the world at anything.

[Perikuresu]

Yousaf might use snap election to secure independence

Humza Yousaf has said he would consider a snap Holyrood election as part of a strategy to secure independence.

The SNP leadership contender also dismissed suggestions he was simply the continuity candidate.

And he told BBC Scotland's The Sunday Show he would need assurances before serving in a Kate Forbes cabinet if she won the contest.

Seems like a while since any of the candidates actually mentioned independence.

Something tells me that it'll end badly for the SNP...

[Hurdergaryp]

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

Britain, of course, did not hand over any money at all to France pre-Brexit to deal with migrants on their coast.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Why does France have an EU eyepatch on its head?