UK Politics Thread X: Immigration, Housing, Strikes oh my

[Souseiseki]

Question from across the pond, why is Keir Starmer still saddled with low favorability ratings despite Labour being ahead in the polls? Are people planning on begrudgingly voting Labour/Lib Dem (for now at least) just because Johnson is doing that much of a shit job? Keir seems almost deliberately inoffensive and able to appeal to many blocs of voters, so I just don't quite get it.

admittedly a personal thing, but i don't like the inoffensive. his ability to appeal to many blocs of voters comes at the cost of seeming to have no principles or conviction and frankly being a bit boring. boris, say what you will, is not boring.

[Major-Tom]

? Keir seems almost deliberately inoffensive

I think you managed to answer your own question.

Suppose I did, didn't I?

Question from across the pond, why is Keir Starmer still saddled with low favorability ratings despite Labour being ahead in the polls? Are people planning on begrudgingly voting Labour/Lib Dem (for now at least) just because Johnson is doing that much of a shit job? Keir seems almost deliberately inoffensive and able to appeal to many blocs of voters, so I just don't quite get it.

admittedly a personal thing, but i don't like the inoffensive. his ability to appeal to many blocs of voters comes at the cost of seeming to have no principles or conviction and frankly being a bit boring. boris, say what you will, is not boring.

Contradictive as it seems, I don't mind boring when it comes to politicians. I'd rather my pilot be boring and competent than bombastic and destructive. I guess the caveat, and maybe this applies to Keir (I don't know enough to say), is that their policies ought not to be boring and stale.

[Armeattla]

I think you managed to answer your own question.

Suppose I did, didn't I?

admittedly a personal thing, but i don't like the inoffensive. his ability to appeal to many blocs of voters comes at the cost of seeming to have no principles or conviction and frankly being a bit boring. boris, say what you will, is not boring.

Contradictive as it seems, I don't mind boring when it comes to politicians. I'd rather my pilot be boring and competent than bombastic and destructive. I guess the caveat, and maybe this applies to Keir (I don't know enough to say), is that their policies ought not to be boring and stale.

Well, he is inoffensive to the point of sitting idly on a fense. On several occasions I could only describe Keir's Labour as a Block Party of the Tories.
Hell, Tory internal opposition bloody begged Labour to do some actual opposition work.
Keir also opposed the recent strikes, and forbade back-benchers to join the striking workers...
Well, you could say that one was not inoffensive for once, but outragiously offensive instead. Turned into a bloody Scab.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

The Murdoch media have never given any Labour leader an easy ride, apart from Tony Blair. Now that people get their 'news' from social media, half the population probably believe Starmer is an alien out to inject them with microchips shaped like scorpions.

[The Archregimancy]

The Murdoch media have never given any Labour leader an easy ride, apart from Tony Blair. Now that people get their 'news' from social media, half the population probably believe Starmer is an alien out to inject them with microchips shaped like scorpions.

What nonsense.

The microchips are shaped like Sir Keir's trans-dimensional lizard overlords; you know, the ones that built the Pyramids.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

The Murdoch media have never given any Labour leader an easy ride, apart from Tony Blair. Now that people get their 'news' from social media, half the population probably believe Starmer is an alien out to inject them with microchips shaped like scorpions.

What nonsense.

The microchips are shaped like Sir Keir's trans-dimensional lizard overlords; you know, the ones that built the Pyramids.

I bow before your superior knowledge of Egyptology.

[Wrixian Isles]

I think you managed to answer your own question.

Suppose I did, didn't I?

admittedly a personal thing, but i don't like the inoffensive. his ability to appeal to many blocs of voters comes at the cost of seeming to have no principles or conviction and frankly being a bit boring. boris, say what you will, is not boring.

Contradictive as it seems, I don't mind boring when it comes to politicians. I'd rather my pilot be boring and competent than bombastic and destructive. I guess the caveat, and maybe this applies to Keir (I don't know enough to say), is that their policies ought not to be boring and stale.

This is most certainly not an endorsement of Starmer however I agree in that I do not believe politicians ought to have effervescent personalities. They are representatives and servants of the public and to some extent to the crown, certainly once in government. The clue is in their names, as 'secretaries of state'. Their original role was to manage affairs for the crown. Even the prime minister was originally merely a glorified clerk, albeit elected.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Boris Johnson says Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if he was a woman
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61976526

Well there goes his incel support.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Boris Johnson says Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if he was a woman
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61976526

Well there goes his incel support.

Speaking after the G7 summit of wealthy nations in Bavaria, Mr Johnson gave an interview to German broadcaster ZDF.

While speaking about gender equality and the importance of education, he said "you need more women in positions of power".

"If Putin was a woman, which he obviously isn't, but if he were, I really don't think he would've embarked on a crazy, macho war of invasion and violence in the way that he has," Mr Johnson said.

"If you want a perfect example of toxic masculinity, it's what he's doing in Ukraine."

Mr Johnson's comments about Russia's president echo those he made during a roundtable discussion with G7 leaders at a meeting in Germany earlier this week.

lmao wat

[The Huskar Social Union]

Telegraph rumour mill/bullshit matrix says that three Tory MPs are in discussions to defect to Labour.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... ct-labour/

Interesting

Wonder who it could be if its accurate

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

I think the logical explanation is that Boris spent the G7 summit doing cocaine with Trudeau.

[Armeattla]

I think the logical explanation is that Boris spent the G7 summit doing cocaine with Trudeau.

Or crack with Macron.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

I think the logical explanation is that Boris spent the G7 summit doing cocaine with Trudeau.

Or crack with Macron.

Look at them all
https://www.politico.eu/article/boris-j ... rld-stage/

High as kites

[Wrixian Isles]

I think the logical explanation is that Boris spent the G7 summit doing cocaine with Trudeau.

Cocaine? Child's blood mate, these are global aristocracy, they won't settle for anything less.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Labour lead by 11% in the Red Wall. Red Wall Voting Intention (26-27 June):

LAB: 46% (–)
CON: 35% (-1)
RFM: 3% (-3)
LDEM: 8% (+3)
GRN: 4% (–)
PLAID: 1% (-1)
OTH: 2% (–)

Changes +/- 12-13 June. Redfield & Wilton Strategies

2019 General Election Results for "Red Wall" seats:

CON: 47%
LAB: 38%
RFM: 7%
LDEM: 4%

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Labour lead by 11% in the Red Wall. Red Wall Voting Intention (26-27 June):

LAB: 46% (–)
CON: 35% (-1)
RFM: 3% (-3)
LDEM: 8% (+3)
GRN: 4% (–)
PLAID: 1% (-1)
OTH: 2% (–)

Changes +/- 12-13 June. Redfield & Wilton Strategies

2019 General Election Results for "Red Wall" seats:

CON: 47%
LAB: 38%
RFM: 7%
LDEM: 4%

That could certainly motivate someone to want to cross the floor of the house.

[Armeattla]

Or crack with Macron.

Look at them all
https://www.politico.eu/article/boris-j ... rld-stage/

High as kites

Indeed. Even Scholz couldn't escape the drug rave, he is smiling after all!
The only drugged german in the image.
Everyone left of him is still sobre.

Surprised Trudeau didn't crack out his father's ciggars.

[Wrixian Isles]

Look at them all
https://www.politico.eu/article/boris-j ... rld-stage/

High as kites

Indeed. Even Scholz couldn't escape the drug rave, he is smiling after all!
The only drugged german in the image.
Everyone left of him is still sobre.

Surprised Trudeau didn't crack out his father's ciggars.

What a sorry sight even sartorially, no ties. Look at the absolute state of our pm, shirt almost hanging out.

[Armeattla]

The entire premise of that pic, and for boris the entire visit, is that they are all chill, had fun, are good friends and are doing alright.

[Wrixian Isles]

The entire premise of that pic, and for boris the entire visit, is that they are all chill, had fun, are good friends and are doing alright.

It is peculiar that that is their priority as statesmen. To be seen as 'chill'. Imagine showing our forebears images of politicians taking selfies complete with gaping mouths with their colleagues, they would suppose them mentally ill.

[Ifreann]

The entire premise of that pic, and for boris the entire visit, is that they are all chill, had fun, are good friends and are doing alright.

It is peculiar that that is their priority as statesmen. To be seen as 'chill'. Imagine showing our forebears images of politicians taking selfies complete with gaping mouths with their colleagues, they would suppose them mentally ill.

These the same forebears who'd be aghast at there being women among the leaders of the great powers?

[Armeattla]

It is peculiar that that is their priority as statesmen. To be seen as 'chill'. Imagine showing our forebears images of politicians taking selfies complete with gaping mouths with their colleagues, they would suppose them mentally ill.

These the same forebears who'd be aghast at there being women among the leaders of the great powers?

Yes. Albeit the only reason Flintenuschi (Von Der Leyen) is there is because the CDU had to get rid of her for her incompetence.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

The Murdoch media have never given any Labour leader an easy ride, apart from Tony Blair. Now that people get their 'news' from social media, half the population probably believe Starmer is an alien out to inject them with microchips shaped like scorpions.

What nonsense.

The microchips are shaped like Sir Keir's trans-dimensional lizard overlords; you know, the ones that built the Pyramids.

I thought it was the Goa'uld.
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[Wrixian Isles]

It is peculiar that that is their priority as statesmen. To be seen as 'chill'. Imagine showing our forebears images of politicians taking selfies complete with gaping mouths with their colleagues, they would suppose them mentally ill.

These the same forebears who'd be aghast at there being women among the leaders of the great powers?

There have been many female leaders of nations, I don't understand what you are trying to say other than just implying that everyone before the 1960s say, was a frothing misogynist.

[The Huskar Social Union]

What nonsense.

The microchips are shaped like Sir Keir's trans-dimensional lizard overlords; you know, the ones that built the Pyramids.

I thought it was the Goa'uld.
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