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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu May 25, 2023 5:05 am

Tories Seek to Induce Integer Overflow to Get Net Migration Down into the Tens of Thousands.
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Postby Mtwara » Thu May 25, 2023 5:48 am

I guess the real question is, does the phrase "100% British and Irish beef" mean exactly that, or can it still include Brazillian and Argentine zebu?

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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Thu May 25, 2023 8:43 am

A car has crashed into the Downing Street gates.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 25, 2023 9:32 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:A car has crashed into the Downing Street gates.


Official confirmation from ABC

https://abcnews.go.com/International/dr ... d=99604090

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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 25, 2023 9:35 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:A car has crashed into the Downing Street gates.

On purpose or accidentally?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 25, 2023 9:43 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:A car has crashed into the Downing Street gates.

Boris day drinking again?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 25, 2023 9:44 am

Hope its just an accident and not some nut case trying something stupid
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Postby Hirota » Thu May 25, 2023 9:45 am

Tinhampton wrote:Am I the only one who's noticed that JD Wetherspoon has gone from serving "100% British Beef" to "100% UK & Irish Beef" these past few months?
Your's might have. But looking through the history of the internet suggests it's more patchy.

5 years ago, 2 years ago, a gluten free menu from 5 years ago, a steak club menu from a year ago, this from 9 years ago. Some say British, some say British and Irish

My guess? Different suppliers have diverse sources. Occam's razor would suggest your local might simply have changed supplier, nothing as dramatic as all the other suggestions.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 25, 2023 11:23 am


Lambs on the lam.
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Postby Great Britain eke Northern Ireland » Thu May 25, 2023 12:12 pm



Hilarious behaviour from Palace police frustrating those loonies.
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Postby The Nationalistic Republics of N Belarus » Thu May 25, 2023 1:20 pm


This sort of lawlessness would not be permitted in Belarus. The UK should adopt our approach to crime.
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Postby Saor Alba » Thu May 25, 2023 3:13 pm

The Nationalistic Republics of N Belarus wrote:

This sort of lawlessness would not be permitted in Belarus. The UK should adopt our approach to crime.

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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 25, 2023 3:16 pm


Ngl reading this makes me hungry

Less tasty targets next time, maybe? Doesn’t the King technically own dolphins? Dolphins aren’t food, and people seem to have more sympathy for them.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu May 25, 2023 5:21 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-glo ... e-65560466?

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Postby Point Blob » Thu May 25, 2023 6:44 pm

Saor Alba wrote:Because unlike Humza Yousaf, Forbes does not have a record of being completely incompetent and failing at every job she has to do. Been speaking with my local Labour councillor and they are not expecting to pick up either our Holyrood or Westminster seats but they have reported a lot of criticism from NHS and care staff about Yousaf, which is unsurprising given how much of a failure he was in that position. The SNP cannot run on a campaign criticising the Tories for a poor NHS anymore, which will cost them.

As far as "neoliberal" goes, I do not think this is a very fair description. As someone of a more liberal economic bent, I would be very grateful if Kate was a neoliberal but she is not. She is a progressive, her voting record testifies to this, her vision is just more pragmatic than that of the party's young membership. And as far as "bigoted" goes, well, I should not even give you the time of day. Her private moral views were well-known before the leadership contest, but the criticism of her for holding them waited until she ran for leadership. Seems she wasn't bigoted enough to warrant a disavowal beforehand.

It'd be pretty tough to be more bigoted than Yousaf. He just gets away with it because he plays the Uno Reverse card every time someone calls him out on it.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu May 25, 2023 9:30 pm

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Saor Alba wrote:Because unlike Humza Yousaf, Forbes does not have a record of being completely incompetent and failing at every job she has to do. Been speaking with my local Labour councillor and they are not expecting to pick up either our Holyrood or Westminster seats but they have reported a lot of criticism from NHS and care staff about Yousaf, which is unsurprising given how much of a failure he was in that position. The SNP cannot run on a campaign criticising the Tories for a poor NHS anymore, which will cost them.

As far as "neoliberal" goes, I do not think this is a very fair description. As someone of a more liberal economic bent, I would be very grateful if Kate was a neoliberal but she is not. She is a progressive, her voting record testifies to this, her vision is just more pragmatic than that of the party's young membership. And as far as "bigoted" goes, well, I should not even give you the time of day. Her private moral views were well-known before the leadership contest, but the criticism of her for holding them waited until she ran for leadership. Seems she wasn't bigoted enough to warrant a disavowal beforehand.

It'd be pretty tough to be more bigoted than Yousaf. He just gets away with it because he plays the Uno Reverse card every time someone calls him out on it.


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Postby El Lazaro » Thu May 25, 2023 9:58 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Point Blob wrote:It'd be pretty tough to be more bigoted than Yousaf. He just gets away with it because he plays the Uno Reverse card every time someone calls him out on it.


Such as?

I saw Humza Yousaf at a Tesco in Glasgow yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

Context: my great-grandmother was Romanian. I filed a hate crime report shortly afterwards, but I was met with flippantly racist responses from the police such as “your passport is expired, and you’ve never been to the UK” and “sir, this is the British Prime Minister’s Office, not that of the Scottish First Minister” and “the Port of Bristol Police has nothing to do with any of this, why are you even calling us?”

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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Thu May 25, 2023 11:25 pm

One third of the increases in food prices down to Brexit

Britain's departure from the European Union has accounted for about a third of the increase in food bills for households since 2019, equivalent to about 250 pounds ($316), researchers from the London School of Economics and other universities said.

Britain has been battling inflation for over a year, partly driven by its highest rate of food price growth since 1977, with food prices up more than 19% over the last year.

Although London and Brussels have an agreement allowing largely tariff-free trade in goods, barriers to exports and imports in the form of paperwork, known as non-tariff barriers, have caused delays and higher costs.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Fri May 26, 2023 12:26 am

What is even the point of having embassies if refuse to help Brits in desperate need. This was totally avoidable and the government and Foreign Office especially should be ashamed.
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Postby Point Blob » Fri May 26, 2023 2:55 am

Vassenor wrote:
Point Blob wrote:It'd be pretty tough to be more bigoted than Yousaf. He just gets away with it because he plays the Uno Reverse card every time someone calls him out on it.


Such as?


Such as.

Plus wasn't there a whole issue with him having a go at a teacher because she was Hindi? I don't remember much about that one. Would have to look it up.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 26, 2023 3:07 am

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:What is even the point of having embassies if refuse to help Brits in desperate need. This was totally avoidable and the government and Foreign Office especially should be ashamed.

Don't think the government is capable of shame.
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Postby Forsher » Fri May 26, 2023 4:24 am

Point Blob wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Such as?


Such as.

Plus wasn't there a whole issue with him having a go at a teacher because she was Hindi? I don't remember much about that one. Would have to look it up.


Okay, so you and that guy who was arrested thinks Yousaf is bigoted but I still don't see why either of you have that opinion. Well, aside from this possible attack on a teacher for being "Hindi".
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Postby Saor Alba » Fri May 26, 2023 4:26 am

Point Blob wrote:It'd be pretty tough to be more bigoted than Yousaf. He just gets away with it because he plays the Uno Reverse card every time someone calls him out on it.

Point Blob wrote:Plus wasn't there a whole issue with him having a go at a teacher because she was Hindi? I don't remember much about that one. Would have to look it up.

I don't know about Humza being bigoted, to be honest. The Hindu teacher thing didn't seem bigoted in my opinion, he was asked if South Asians can be racist. It does seem like he is very entitled and has a massive victim complex, though.

Now the thing about him having someone arrested for calling him racist is quite telling. He is a very fragile man and that explains those very authoritarian hate speech laws. If you go on a rant which involves you complaining about white people holding positions then it is very reasonable to assume it is racist. The Scottish justice system is an awful state because of the SNP and Humza did nothing as Justice Secretary to improve it.
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