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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 25, 2022 7:45 am

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For starters, that's not true. Secondly, that's not your call to make. And thirdly, who gives a rat's ass what I "need" that isn't how rights work.


Yes it is you simply refuse to acknowledge it.


I fully acknowledge that you desire to inflict a hateful and cruel ideology upon millions of innocent people. Hence why I oppose you ever having the power to do so.

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Postby Sordhau » Wed May 25, 2022 7:46 am

Don't say "weapon of war" like it's a bad thing.

Weapons of war are fucking awesome tbqh.

Wish I could afford one.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 7:46 am

Big Jim P wrote:
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Yes it is you simply refuse to acknowledge it.


Since you are the one proposing an infringement on a right, YOU need to come up with one helluva justification.


Children shouldn’t be gunned down in school.

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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 25, 2022 7:47 am

Sordhau wrote:Don't say "weapon of war" like it's a bad thing.

Weapons of war are fucking awesome tbqh.

Wish I could afford one.


Also this.

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed May 25, 2022 7:47 am

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No they should not. You do not need anything other than a pistol, shotgun or hunting rifle.

The PM of New Zealand isn’t a gun grabber. She did what needed to be done.


The vast majority of gun deaths in the US come from pistols.


Many of which are legitimate defensive shoots.
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 25, 2022 7:47 am

San Lumen wrote:
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Since you are the one proposing an infringement on a right, YOU need to come up with one helluva justification.


Children shouldn’t be gunned down in school.


People shouldn't have monkey pox, when do we attack your right to have sex?

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed May 25, 2022 7:48 am

San Lumen wrote:
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Since you are the one proposing an infringement on a right, YOU need to come up with one helluva justification.


Children shouldn’t be gunned down in school.


People should be able to defend those kids.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 7:48 am

American Legionaries wrote:
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Yes it is you simply refuse to acknowledge it.


I fully acknowledge that you desire to inflict a hateful and cruel ideology upon millions of innocent people. Hence why I oppose you ever having the power to do so.


You might be ok with mass shootings and children being gunned down in school as a normal thing but I’m not. I’m sick of thoughts and prayers and moments of silence. This insanity needs to end and if you don’t like it I don’t give a fig.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 7:50 am

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Children shouldn’t be gunned down in school.


People should be able to defend those kids.


Let’s make gun ownership mandatory then. More guns isn’t the solution. There should be less mass shootings the more guns you have.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed May 25, 2022 7:50 am

Big Jim P wrote:
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Children shouldn’t be gunned down in school.


People should be able to defend those kids.


And why are they unable to do so currently?
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed May 25, 2022 7:51 am

San Lumen wrote:
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People should be able to defend those kids.


Let’s make gun ownership mandatory then. More guns isn’t the solution. There should be less mass shootings the more guns you have.


Lets quit trying to disarm the good guys.
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Postby Sordhau » Wed May 25, 2022 7:51 am

San Lumen wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
I fully acknowledge that you desire to inflict a hateful and cruel ideology upon millions of innocent people. Hence why I oppose you ever having the power to do so.


You might be ok with mass shootings and children being gunned down in school as a normal thing but I’m not. I’m sick of thoughts and prayers and moments of silence. This insanity needs to end and if you don’t like it I don’t give a fig.


The solution to mass shootings isn't in examining the how, but the why.

Stop looking at the means and start looking at the cause.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed May 25, 2022 7:51 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
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People should be able to defend those kids.


And why are they unable to do so currently?


Gun Free School Zone.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 25, 2022 7:51 am

San Lumen wrote:
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By that logic, gun grabbers should be held liable for every time a person is unable to defend themselves.


No they should not. You do not need anything other than a pistol, shotgun or hunting rifle.

The PM of New Zealand isn’t a gun grabber. She did what needed to be done.

Here's a little tip, say "bolt action rifle" instead of "hunting rifle". When you say "hunting rifle", they're just going to say that AR style rifles are or can be hunting rifles, then you'll say no, it's a weapon of war, and then they've tricked you into arguing minutiae of gun technicalities and it'll be five page before you get back to trying to argue your actual point.

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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 25, 2022 7:52 am

San Lumen wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
I fully acknowledge that you desire to inflict a hateful and cruel ideology upon millions of innocent people. Hence why I oppose you ever having the power to do so.


You might be ok with mass shootings and children being gunned down in school as a normal thing but I’m not. I’m sick of thoughts and prayers and moments of silence. This insanity needs to end and if you don’t like it I don’t give a fig.


Of course you don't.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 25, 2022 7:53 am

Food for thought: The school district for Robb Elementary has its own police department with 5 officers and 1 security guard. The city of Uvalde's police department recieved just under 40% of the entire city's budget for the year and got a $500k grant from the state. Neither stopped the massacre.

Maybe it's time to reevaluate skyrocketing police budgets if they're not actually going to help.
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Postby Sordhau » Wed May 25, 2022 7:53 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
No they should not. You do not need anything other than a pistol, shotgun or hunting rifle.

The PM of New Zealand isn’t a gun grabber. She did what needed to be done.

Here's a little tip, say "bolt action rifle" instead of "hunting rifle". When you say "hunting rifle", they're just going to say that AR style rifles are or can be hunting rifles, then you'll say no, it's a weapon of war, and then they've tricked you into arguing minutiae of gun technicalities and it'll be five page before you get back to trying to argue your actual point.


It's hardly a trick to point out that gun control advocates don't know the correct terminology for the very instruments they want to restrict or ban, and therefor aren't qualified to propose laws against them.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed May 25, 2022 7:53 am

Big Jim P wrote:
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And why are they unable to do so currently?


Gun Free School Zone.


So there are no mass-shootings in places where people are free to carry guns?
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 25, 2022 7:54 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Gun Free School Zone.


So there are no mass-shootings in places where people are free to carry guns?


Significantly fewer.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 25, 2022 7:55 am

Big Jim P wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Children shouldn’t be gunned down in school.


People should be able to defend those kids.

If only there had been people on the scene with guns the whole time.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed May 25, 2022 7:56 am

This is already a shit thread anyway so I have only one question
When can I acquire 10 Maxim guns and one million rounds of service ammunition and non-aggressively position them all before the White House

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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 25, 2022 7:56 am

Big Jim P wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Children shouldn’t be gunned down in school.


People should be able to defend those kids.


If more guns is the only way to stop school shootings why has there not been a school shooting in the UK since 1996?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed May 25, 2022 7:56 am

American Legionaries wrote:
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So there are no mass-shootings in places where people are free to carry guns?


Significantly fewer.


Do you have numbers?

But assuming you are right: who are supposed to carry those guns? The overworked teachers? Seperate security ?
Should schools become fortresses guarded by the military ?
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 25, 2022 7:57 am

Ifreann wrote:
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People should be able to defend those kids.

If only there had been people on the scene with guns the whole time.


Having a weapon is only a single component of being able to defend things against attack.

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Postby Sordhau » Wed May 25, 2022 7:58 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:This is already a shit thread anyway so I have only one question
When can I acquire 10 Maxim guns and one million rounds of service ammunition and non-aggressively position them all before the White House


I gotchu, fam.
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