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Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:33 pm**

For a country as large as the US, gun control as a nationwide policy is bound to fail. It's something that makes more sense in a city or county sized setting.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:34 pm**

Diarcesia wrote:For a country as large as the US, gun control as a nationwide policy is bound to fail. It's something that makes more sense in a city or county sized setting.

this too

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:35 pm**

The Black Forrest wrote:
Saiwania wrote:What this person did doesn't take away from the fact that the primary complaint that the far right has- that Whites are shrinking towards becoming a permanent minority in most majority White countries, is seemingly happening. Which doesn't bode well for the White race not becoming extinct over the long term. So long as the people who believe in Great Replacement Theory see trends/facts which validate their worldview, there will continue to be some people who'll take action as they see fit, even if it won't meaningfully change the outcome or state of affairs they're lashing out against.

Who the fuck cares if the white people go extinct? I am white and I don’t care. I am also what you would call a race traitor as I don’t care about the skin color of women. If she tickled my fancy; I would get to know her and ask her out.

Great Replacement Theory? It isn’t even a hypothesis. Just because you tack theory on the end; doesn’t it make it legitimate.

You want more white people? Make it easier for them to live. Less children is usually a choice. If you can give one all the advantages, you didn’t have…..why have multiple and offer less or nothing?

Great Replacement Theory……..where is that head slap emoji? Since Tucker Carlson shit spews this crap; it must be the new boogie man for racists.

I'd say the population should just race mix until everyone is mixed race

But then we'd be Brazil, and Brazil isn't exactly a beacon of peace. People will always be asses even if theyre the same color

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:36 pm**

Diarcesia wrote:For a country as large as the US, gun control as a nationwide policy is bound to fail. It's something that makes more sense in a city or county sized setting.

Here's the thing, attacking gun owners is a complete swing at the wrong target.

The target is obvious, and that's things like 4chan racists and nazi internet presence. That is what radicalized this guy, and he states clearly enough in his text.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:36 pm**

I'm generally not for pointless deaths, and this would be a pointless death with only revenge to justify it.

Unfortunately, yes, but I think suing the state would likely do so. The state of New York dropped the ball and people died as a result.

The target is obvious, and that's things like 4chan racists and nazi internet presence.

They have the right to free speech, just like those that claim Communism killed no one. Granted, this dude was seriously out there before he read this stuff. He wanted to commit murder and off himself before he was committed involuntarily.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:39 pm**

Salus Maior wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:For a country as large as the US, gun control as a nationwide policy is bound to fail. It's something that makes more sense in a city or county sized setting.

Here's the thing, attacking gun owners is a complete swing at the wrong target.

The target is obvious, and that's things like 4chan racists and nazi internet presence. That is what radicalized this guy, and he states clearly enough in his text.

That's when you know it really meant politicians wanting to gather political points.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:44 pm**

Kanadorika wrote:I'd say the population should just race mix until everyone is mixed race

But then we'd be Brazil, and Brazil isn't exactly a beacon of peace. People will always be asses even if theyre the same color

Brazil's problem isn't that people are mixed race, it's the class divide that's leftover from the racial caste system they used to have.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:46 pm**

Royal Frankia wrote:
I'm generally not for pointless deaths, and this would be a pointless death with only revenge to justify it.

Unfortunately, yes, but I think suing the state would likely do so. The state of New York dropped the ball and people died as a result.

The target is obvious, and that's things like 4chan racists and nazi internet presence.

They have the right to free speech, just like those that claim Communism killed no one. Granted, this dude was seriously out there before he read this stuff. He wanted to commit murder and off himself before he was committed involuntarily.

Then perhaps they should cease to have the right to free speech.

I'm all for a concerted war of the state against internet Nazis. See how well they function with the weight of state power on their backs.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:47 pm**

Brazil's problem isn't that people are mixed race, it's the class divide that's leftover from the racial caste system they used to have.

The drug war isn't helping, with many cops on the take. Firearms are rather restricted, with criminals using them quite brazenly regardless.

Main thing with a prohibition on firearms is that it will not remove them from society, they will just pop up on the black market. People still smuggle a Taurus into the UK when they can get multiple decades in jail for that.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:47 pm**

Salus Maior wrote:
Kanadorika wrote:I'd say the population should just race mix until everyone is mixed race

But then we'd be Brazil, and Brazil isn't exactly a beacon of peace. People will always be asses even if theyre the same color

Brazil's problem isn't that people are mixed race, it's the class divide that's leftover from the racial caste system they used to have.

And the government occasionally thinks dictators are cool.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:47 pm**

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Brazil's problem isn't that people are mixed race, it's the class divide that's leftover from the racial caste system they used to have.

And the government occasionally thinks dictators are cool.

Everything went downhill after they kicked out Dom Pedro.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 5:51 pm**

Then perhaps they should cease to have the right to free speech.

I'm all for a concerted war of the state against internet Nazis. See how well they function with the weight of state power on their backs.

Yeah, that would be unconstitutional, and you still have hate groups despite hate speech laws. Holocaust denial is more prevalent than it would be otherwise, for example. I would not want the state spying and cracking down on Democratic Socialists because one nut tried to shoot up a Republican baseball game.

This dude needed help, and as I've said the state did drop the ball on this individual despite obvious warnings. I would not trust the state to go after individuals over hate speech when they cannot even deal with forwarding info on dangerous individuals to the federal database.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:01 pm**

https://usa.liveuamap.com/en/2022/18-ma ... ragut-rd-g
Another shooting in The State of New York, this time in NYC.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:05 pm**

Utquiagvik wrote:https://usa.liveuamap.com/en/2022/18-may-brooklyn---e-105th-st-and-farragut-rd-g
Another shooting in The State of New York, this time in NYC.

I mean, that happens a lot in NYC. That doesn't mean it's ideological.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:19 pm**

Salus Maior wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:For a country as large as the US, gun control as a nationwide policy is bound to fail. It's something that makes more sense in a city or county sized setting.

Here's the thing, attacking gun owners is a complete swing at the wrong target.

The target is obvious, and that's things like 4chan racists and nazi internet presence. That is what radicalized this guy, and he states clearly enough in his text.

Thing is its harder to go after them than it is to push for some new gun law that bans something scary looking but wont prevent the next mass shooting.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:26 pm**

Mass Shootings only happen in gun free zones... just saying

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:29 pm**

Salus Maior wrote:
Royal Frankia wrote:Yeah, but he forfeited his life to live. Surely, you don't think they shouldn't have executed Timothy McVeigh after the OKC Bombing. The Feds had to do it in Indiana, but it was done within 6 years of the bombing.

He can be executed if this is a federal crime, if I am not mistaken.

I'm generally not for pointless deaths, and this would be a pointless death with only revenge to justify it.

It would also bring him more attention to spew his nonsense.

Charge him and try him fairly. Convict him justly. Throw him in a prison and let him be forgotten.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:31 pm**

Christian Confederation wrote:Mass Shootings only happen in gun free zones... just saying

Yeah, they never happen at well-armed venues. Like Country Music events.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:31 pm**

Space Squid wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Mass Shootings only happen in gun free zones... just saying

Yeah, they never happen at well-armed venues. Like Country Music events.

Those aren't as well armed as you think.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:33 pm**

Adamede wrote:
Space Squid wrote:Yeah, they never happen at well-armed venues. Like Country Music events.

Those aren't as well armed as you think.

If country music festivals don't qualify as "well armed" then nothing short of an NRA convention would.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:34 pm**

Saiwania wrote:What this person did doesn't take away from the fact that the primary complaint that the far right has- that Whites are shrinking towards becoming a permanent minority in most majority White countries, is seemingly happening. Which doesn't bode well for the White race not becoming extinct over the long term. So long as the people who believe in Great Replacement Theory see trends/facts which validate their worldview, there will continue to be some people who'll take action as they see fit, even if it won't meaningfully change the outcome or state of affairs they're lashing out against.

American population in general is shrinking because you're not having enough kids. There's nobody to blame in this case but yourself, literally. Want more people? Stop posting on the internet and go seduce a woman.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:34 pm**

Space Squid wrote:
Adamede wrote:Those aren't as well armed as you think.

If country music festivals don't qualify as "well armed" then nothing short of an NRA convention would.

Last NRA convention I went too didn't allow you to carry on site.

So yah.

You're relying on fucking stereotypes dude.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:34 pm**

Christian Confederation wrote:Mass Shootings only happen in gun free zones... just saying

I don't see how more lax gun laws would have prevented a white supremacist from shooting up black people.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:35 pm**

Existential Cats wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Mass Shootings only happen in gun free zones... just saying

I don't see how more lax gun laws would have prevented a white supremacist from shooting up black people.

Strict laws didn't stop it either.

Posted: **Tue May 17, 2022 6:37 pm**

Adamede wrote:
Existential Cats wrote:I don't see how more lax gun laws would have prevented a white supremacist from shooting up black people.

Strict laws didn't stop it either.

Well obviously, because the problem doesn't start or end with guns. Trying to frame this as an issue that is solved through banning guns or permitting more people to carry them is ridiculous.

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