U.S Massacre Thread

[Islamic Essarn]

And killing people when you are out numbered is also quit difficult with out a gun.

Depends on the perpetrator and victims.

In this case it is.

[American Legionaries]

I've never understood this whole idea that Americans are some huddled wretches cowering in the corner because the world outside is some sort of wind-torn Mad Max wasteland.

That's an impression people get from the cohort of Americans that would really like the world outside to be some sort of Mad Max wasteland.

I tend to avoid getting impressions from nobody, it's just silly.

[Thermodolia]

The only fear I have is that I forgot to feed the cat, the pool might be bathtub temps, and that my PTSD will flair up.

You have a pool? Nice.

I do. Pretty much everyone has a pool in Phoenix, it’s kinda standard

[American Legionaries]

Because the majority of gun deaths are suicides not murders.

So if you want to fix that then maybe expand the mental health system?

Guns are the most lethal way that people commit suicide

I'm pretty sure suicides are all lethal.

[Thermodolia]

Because the majority of gun deaths are suicides not murders.

So if you want to fix that then maybe expand the mental health system?

Guns are the most lethal way that people commit suicide

Yes but you’ll still have suicidal people, so maybe we should try and make them not suicidal by having a better QOL, better mental health care, and not over work people in general

[The Black Forrest]

The only fear I have is that I forgot to feed the cat, the pool might be bathtub temps, and that my PTSD will flair up.

I've never understood this whole idea that Americans are some huddled wretches cowering in the corner because the world outside is some sort of wind-torn Mad Max wasteland.

The same can be said for the need to be carrying when going outside…..then again…do you live in a crappy neighborhood?

[The Black Forrest]

Guns are the most lethal way that people commit suicide

Yes but you’ll still have suicidal people, so maybe we should try and make them not suicidal by having a better QOL, better mental health care, and not over work people in general

Hmmm? That argument though valid seems to be raised by gun people these days. Has the gun community taken that cause up or it simply argument knowing full well people aren’t working on it?

[American Legionaries]

It only makes me think that queer folk need to buy some guns and get some licences to carry and practice marksmanship.

This is why Pink Pistols exists

I work with a program that helps immigrants get firearms, similar concept, but different target group.

[American Legionaries]

I've never understood this whole idea that Americans are some huddled wretches cowering in the corner because the world outside is some sort of wind-torn Mad Max wasteland.

The same can be said for the need to be carrying when going outside…..then again…do you live in a crappy neighborhood?

No, but I wear my seat belt even on generally safe roads too.

[The Black Forrest]

Yes. Idaho. They came from all over the country. Good ‘Murkins *spits* protecting the country from the queer menace who are after children!

What I read/saw didn’t mention guns. Still; you know some of these people can’t go outside without carrying one. So there might have been a couple….

The thing I saw was that they had cudgels and plastic shields. I didn't see anything about them having guns.

I saw they same. Basically these guys wanted to “fag bash”

I am surprised they didn’t find a couple…..

[The Black Forrest]

The same can be said for the need to be carrying when going outside…..then again…do you live in a crappy neighborhood?

No, but I wear my seat belt even on generally safe roads too.

That’s a good habit.

[American Legionaries]

The thing I saw was that they had cudgels and plastic shields. I didn't see anything about them having guns.

I saw they same. Basically these guys wanted to “fag bash”

I am surprised they didn’t find a couple…..

Lol, types like that probably could have done plenty of "queer bashing" without leaving their own truck.

[The Black Forrest]

Because the majority of gun deaths are suicides not murders.

So if you want to fix that then maybe expand the mental health system?

Guns are the most lethal way that people commit suicide

Oh I don’t know. Poisons are up there on the pain scale. Jumping off things as well….

[Thermodolia]

I've never understood this whole idea that Americans are some huddled wretches cowering in the corner because the world outside is some sort of wind-torn Mad Max wasteland.

The same can be said for the need to be carrying when going outside…..then again…do you live in a crappy neighborhood?

There’s multiple reasons why someone might carry when going outside. Living in a bad area is only one of them, you also got stalking victims, sexual assault/rape survivors, people living in the middle of nowhere, animals (both four and two legged), and some just like the way a gun feels

[Tarsonis]

Guns are the most lethal way that people commit suicide

Oh I don’t know. Poisons are up there on the pain scale. Jumping off things as well….

Was gonna say, gravity kills more people than guns do

[The Black Forrest]

I saw they same. Basically these guys wanted to “fag bash”

I am surprised they didn’t find a couple…..

Lol, types like that probably could have done plenty of "queer bashing" without leaving their own truck.

Probably not as enjoyable as beating on them.

[American Legionaries]

No, but I wear my seat belt even on generally safe roads too.

That’s a good habit.

Indeed, which is the point. I don't put my seat belt on because I'm terrified of the highway, or because I have some particular fear of getting on a car wreck today, on the specific roads I'm traveling, but rather because it's simply a good habit. I wear a seatbelt in the car, I wear a helmet on my bicycle, I look both ways when I cross the street, and I carry a pistol on my hip. These, and many other good habits, are all comparable.

[Thermodolia]

Yes but you’ll still have suicidal people, so maybe we should try and make them not suicidal by having a better QOL, better mental health care, and not over work people in general

Hmmm? That argument though valid seems to be raised by gun people these days. Has the gun community taken that cause up or it simply argument knowing full well people aren’t working on it?

The gun community is a vast politically different group.

There’s not one single leader and not all gun owners are die hard conservatives who hate everything.

So I’d say it depends on the person, I support expanded mental healthcare that should be provided by the government and id like to think that others in the gun community would like expanded mental health care too

[Dylar]

Oh I don’t know. Poisons are up there on the pain scale. Jumping off things as well….

Was gonna say, gravity kills more people than guns do

ban gravity

let me float off this world pls

[Fartsniffage]

Guns are the most lethal way that people commit suicide

I'm pretty sure suicides are all lethal.

Attempts are not. I tried twice with calculated drugs. Didn't work.

[Tarsonis]

Shooting people without a gun is difficult...

And killing people when you are out numbered is also quit difficult with out a gun.

Which is why people want them. but regardless, that wasn't the point. the point was that a woman committing triple homicide is very different from a guy killing 18 people in a premeditated spree. But they get counted the same when people bring up "mass shooting statistics"

[Islamic Essarn]

Guns are the most lethal way that people commit suicide

I'm pretty sure suicides are all lethal.

Attempting suicides can go two ways : you survive or you don’t ; guns are the most lethal way of attempting suicide https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazine/m ... s-suicide/

[The Black Forrest]

The same can be said for the need to be carrying when going outside…..then again…do you live in a crappy neighborhood?

There’s multiple reasons why someone might carry when going outside. Living in a bad area is only one of them, you also got stalking victims, sexual assault/rape survivors, people living in the middle of nowhere, animals (both four and two legged), and some just like the way a gun feels

I get the victims of a crime. Though I could see concern of said people freaking and shooting what they perceive as a threat (granted a guess and another discussion). People living in the middle of nowhere?….don’t think that’s really a concern of the so called “gun grabbers”

Now the gun feels? Sure. Empowered does make people feel good and at times stupid. I remember years ago when pepper spray was the big thing to carry for personal defense. I forget what city; the police noticed an uptick in violence involved women. What they noticed is women started to ignore their base instincts and walked right into areas carrying the spray. They tried to educate people yes it’s a weapon. It’s not going to protect you from attack. They even went as far as to setup demonstrations. “There is a policeman out in this parking lot. He will attack you and wrestle you to the ground. Carry your spray at the ready and use it. He knows…..”. Not exact obviously. It was multiple women and the attacker took them all down. Only got sprayed “a little” on one instance. It hurt; it wasn’t enough to stop him though.

Anyway…..

[The Black Forrest]

Hmmm? That argument though valid seems to be raised by gun people these days. Has the gun community taken that cause up or it simply argument knowing full well people aren’t working on it?

The gun community is a vast politically different group.

There’s not one single leader and not all gun owners are die hard conservatives who hate everything.

So I’d say it depends on the person, I support expanded mental healthcare that should be provided by the government and id like to think that others in the gun community would like expanded mental health care too

So do I.

Now the real question? Would those supporters accept tax increases to fund said programs?

[Islamic Essarn]

I'm pretty sure suicides are all lethal.

Attempting suicides can go two ways : you survive or you don’t ; guns are the most lethal way of attempting suicide https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazine/m ... s-suicide/

Guns are linked to suicides