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Postby Adamede » Wed May 25, 2022 8:30 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Then I guess children getting gunned down in school should be accepted as a normal thing.


That ship sailed after Sandy Hook happened and nothing changed. Americans decided that it was worth the lives of children to own guns.

Embrace the suck San Lumen.

Yah almost like none of the laws they wanted to pass would stop mass shootings.

Hell what Lumen wants wouldn’t stop mass shootings either.
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 25, 2022 8:30 am

San Lumen wrote:
Adamede wrote:You have no fucking idea what the fuck you’re talking about.


Yes I do. Your simply content with this happening over and over again like so many others.


Better than being thrilled by it.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 8:30 am

Adamede wrote:
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Yes I do. Your simply content with this happening over and over again like so many others.

No, you don’t. That you think that AR’s are some how different from most other guns shows that you have no idea what you’re fucking talking about.


What do you need anything other than a pistol or shotgun for? Do what New Zealand did and melt them all down. Use the metal to build infrastructure.

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Postby Mets Hayk » Wed May 25, 2022 8:30 am

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The Black Forrest wrote:
Kind of hard to do with the police union.


Police shouldn’t be allowed to have unions.


Ah, the "police bad" type...what would you do if someone would break into your house and you had nothing to defend yourself with?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed May 25, 2022 8:30 am

But seriously, I am very curious to hear:

1. HOW "more security" at schools should be implemented

2. Why people think it will help. A quick google mostly produces articles that claim it makes matters WORSE
Example: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamane ... le/2776515 claims that having an armed guard increases the deathtoll almost three-fold.
So if the people arguing in favour could offer their sources that would be great.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 8:31 am

Adamede wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
That ship sailed after Sandy Hook happened and nothing changed. Americans decided that it was worth the lives of children to own guns.

Embrace the suck San Lumen.

Yah almost like none of the laws they wanted to pass would stop mass shootings.

Hell what Lumen wants wouldn’t stop mass shootings either.


Why did it stop in Australia after their mass shooting decades ago?

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 25, 2022 8:31 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
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Yes let’s make schools a fortress.


Apparantly that is what people want. School a fortress, armed people able to defend the kids everywhere etc. etc.

No doubt all the kids at a school like that will grow up to be healthy and well adjusted individuals.

American kids haven’t been able to grow up normally since the 80s. During that time a lot of parents freaked out about kids being kidnapped and decided that the bust idea was to lock up all kids until they turn 18.

In the US a kid can’t go for a walk by themselves without raising suspicion or the parents getting in trouble. I’ve known people who got locked up because their kid went for a walk down the street by themselves (said kid was 13)
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 25, 2022 8:32 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
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Police shouldn’t be allowed to have unions.


Ah, the "police bad" type...what would you do if someone would break into your house and you had nothing to defend yourself with?

Presumably your advice would be to pray and mourn.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 8:32 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Police shouldn’t be allowed to have unions.


Ah, the "police bad" type...what would you do if someone would break into your house and you had nothing to defend yourself with?


Let’s just make gun ownership mandatory. Clearly that’s the solution.

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Postby Adamede » Wed May 25, 2022 8:32 am

San Lumen wrote:
Adamede wrote:No, you don’t. That you think that AR’s are some how different from most other guns shows that you have no idea what you’re fucking talking about.


What do you need anything other than a pistol or shotgun for? Do what New Zealand did and melt them all down. Use the metal to build infrastructure.

You do realize that multiple mass shoutings have been committed with only hand guns, “hunting rifles” and shotguns right?

Tell me what makes an AR 15 so different from any other gun in your mind?
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 25, 2022 8:33 am

San Lumen wrote:
Adamede wrote:No, you don’t. That you think that AR’s are some how different from most other guns shows that you have no idea what you’re fucking talking about.


What do you need anything other than a pistol or shotgun for? Do what New Zealand did and melt them all down. Use the metal to build infrastructure.

Congrats on the civil war you just started. Hope ya like dodging bullets
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Postby FNU » Wed May 25, 2022 8:33 am

San Lumen wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Ah, the "police bad" type...what would you do if someone would break into your house and you had nothing to defend yourself with?


Let’s just make gun ownership mandatory. Clearly that’s the solution.

The way I see it you're reading too much into it. Yes, it sucks that the people who should be held responsible outside of the shooter won't be, but you can't just throw your arms into the air because of it.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Wed May 25, 2022 8:33 am

Our local equivalent to a police force apparently just announced they'll be sending out representatives to our school district to interact with the faculty and students, which I'd imagine is a reaction to the massacre in Texas.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 25, 2022 8:33 am

San Lumen wrote:
Adamede wrote:Yah almost like none of the laws they wanted to pass would stop mass shootings.

Hell what Lumen wants wouldn’t stop mass shootings either.


Why did it stop in Australia after their mass shooting decades ago?

Drop in crime rates actually
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Postby Adamede » Wed May 25, 2022 8:33 am

San Lumen wrote:
Adamede wrote:Yah almost like none of the laws they wanted to pass would stop mass shootings.

Hell what Lumen wants wouldn’t stop mass shootings either.


Why did it stop in Australia after their mass shooting decades ago?

Because they passed a series of laws restricting ownership in general. It’s not because they banned AR15’s. Of course there has been a rise of gun owners killing the doves and their families.

You can own an AR15 in most of Europe. Tell me, why don’t they have mass shootings?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 25, 2022 8:33 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Police shouldn’t be allowed to have unions.


Ah, the "police bad" type...what would you do if someone would break into your house and you had nothing to defend yourself with?


Break ins? Well there is a question. How often is there a home invasion versus a breakin when the owners are away?
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 25, 2022 8:35 am

San Lumen wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
Ah, the "police bad" type...what would you do if someone would break into your house and you had nothing to defend yourself with?


Let’s just make gun ownership mandatory. Clearly that’s the solution.


Can't because of religious freedom. Although subsidizing it would be a good idea.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 25, 2022 8:35 am

Adamede wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why did it stop in Australia after their mass shooting decades ago?

Because they passed a series of laws restricting ownership in general. It’s not because they banned AR15’s. Of course there has been a rise of gun owners killing the doves and their families.

You can own an AR15 in most of Europe. Tell me, why don’t they have mass shootings?


Why do you ask a question to which you clearly already know the answer?
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 25, 2022 8:35 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Police shouldn’t be allowed to have unions.


Ah, the "police bad" type...what would you do if someone would break into your house and you had nothing to defend yourself with?

The police are bad. They are unprofessional, often racist, thuggish people. They shoot people for slight movements of a hand or shoot people who are clearly complying with them.

Cops are bad and they need major reform, but until then the police do not need guns
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Postby Saiwania » Wed May 25, 2022 8:36 am

Adamede wrote:No, you don’t. That you think that AR’s are some how different from most other guns shows that you have no idea what you’re fucking talking about.


At issue is the fact that firearms of that type have detachable magazines and that high capacity ones can be fitted to it. Most guns in civilian market are semiautomatic, so there is hardly anything that'd hinder gun users asides from having guns have to have fixed magazines and the magazine capacity to be limited to something small like 10 or fewer rounds.

Whoever has enough knowledge and means will be able to bypass magazine limitations anyway.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed May 25, 2022 8:36 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Police shouldn’t be allowed to have unions.


Ah, the "police bad" type...what would you do if someone would break into your house and you had nothing to defend yourself with?


Is the answer to the question supposed to depend on the existence of police?
Because the police will not help you.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 8:38 am

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What do you need anything other than a pistol or shotgun for? Do what New Zealand did and melt them all down. Use the metal to build infrastructure.

Congrats on the civil war you just started. Hope ya like dodging bullets

spare me the hyperbole. New Zealand hasn't had a civil war.

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Postby Adamede » Wed May 25, 2022 8:38 am

Vassenor wrote:
Adamede wrote:Because they passed a series of laws restricting ownership in general. It’s not because they banned AR15’s. Of course there has been a rise of gun owners killing the doves and their families.

You can own an AR15 in most of Europe. Tell me, why don’t they have mass shootings?


Why do you ask a question to which you clearly already know the answer?

Maybe because I want San Lumen to answer and maybe realize that AR15’s aren’t fucking special evil guns, especially with this dumbass idea that you “only need a handgun or shotgun”, despite the fact that’s not going to stop mass shootings.

Tell me why it fucking bothers you?
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 8:39 am

Adamede wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Why do you ask a question to which you clearly already know the answer?

Maybe because I want San Lumen to answer and maybe realize that AR15’s aren’t fucking special evil guns, especially with this dumbass idea that you “only need a handgun or shotgun”, despite the fact that’s not going to stop mass shootings.


You don't need then. Do you need to shred deer?

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