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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 8:22 am

American Legionaries wrote:
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I know someone who was nearly paralyzed by the shooting in Las Vegas. Don’t play the victim complex with me. I’m sick of it.


Oh please, nobody gives a fuck who you say you know.


Yeah I’m just making that up. You don’t give a damm about anything but your stupid guns and bullets and if children have to keep getting gunned down in schools oh well.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed May 25, 2022 8:22 am

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Thermodolia wrote:But they can’t. You can’t hold a court liable for their decisions. If you did then the entire legal system you hold dear would utterly collapse as a victim of someone who got acquitted of murder could sue and hold the judge liable for not squashing the evidence that proved the guys innocence.


Then I guess children getting gunned down in school should be accepted as a normal thing.


That ship sailed after Sandy Hook happened and nothing changed. Americans decided that it was worth the lives of children to own guns.

Embrace the suck San Lumen.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed May 25, 2022 8:22 am

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People should be able to defend those kids.


Hmmm? So armed parents should be sitting in each classroom?

One selbstschussgerät triggered with metal detectors on every door in every school
problem solved?

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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed May 25, 2022 8:23 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
People should be able to defend those kids.


Hmmm? So armed parents should be sitting in each classroom?


Armed and trained. Ready to fire at a moments notice and having no qualms gunning down a kid.
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Postby Hukhalia » Wed May 25, 2022 8:23 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
"Do not politicise this tragedy thoughts and prayers only"


"Using dead children as political propaganda is a-okay!"

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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 8:23 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Hmmm? So armed parents should be sitting in each classroom?

One selbstschussgerät triggered with metal detectors on every door in every school
problem solved?


Yes let’s make schools a fortress.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 25, 2022 8:24 am

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"An entire demographic of people deserves to be punished for what happened to my child" is shady as fuck.


I know someone who was nearly paralyzed by the shooting in Las Vegas. Don’t play the victim complex with me. I’m sick of it.

But you aren’t a victim so you can’t claim to know
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed May 25, 2022 8:24 am

San Lumen wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:One selbstschussgerät triggered with metal detectors on every door in every school
problem solved?


Yes let’s make schools a fortress.


Apparantly that is what people want. School a fortress, armed people able to defend the kids everywhere etc. etc.

No doubt all the kids at a school like that will grow up to be healthy and well adjusted individuals.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 25, 2022 8:24 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
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"Do not politicise this tragedy thoughts and prayers only"


"Using dead children as political propaganda is a-okay!"


Maybe you should take that up with the anti-abortion lobby then.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 25, 2022 8:24 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:cant you all americans just gather in 4th july with all your guns and let all this madness out ersumthing in one giant battle royale
<.>

There was a movie series about that
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 8:24 am

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I know someone who was nearly paralyzed by the shooting in Las Vegas. Don’t play the victim complex with me. I’m sick of it.

But you aren’t a victim so you can’t claim to know


I don’t follow.

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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 25, 2022 8:25 am

San Lumen wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Oh please, nobody gives a fuck who you say you know.


Yeah I’m just making that up. You don’t give a damm about anything but your stupid guns and bullets and if children have to keep getting gunned down in schools oh well.


You shouldn't make stuff up on the internet, it's just silly.

And you don't care about anything except inflicting your trash views on innocent people, and if children keep getting gunned down in schools you'll gleefully use their deaths to fuel your hatred.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 25, 2022 8:25 am

Mets Hayk wrote:If a child and/or younger sibling of mine were to die in a mass shooting, I wouldn't want their death to be used to forward a political message. I'm a bit concerned that leeches are using a tragedy to say; "hey, guns bad!" Without knowing that creates more and more animosity between moth sides. It's gotten so bad that you Americans cannot even stand together in times like these, regardless of political ideology, in an event where literal children died, without trying to make it about YOUR views.


How about forwarding political messages when there is a shooting?
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Postby Adamede » Wed May 25, 2022 8:25 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No I’m really not totalitarian. I’m not the guy who wants to disarm millions nor do I want to genocide 50% of humanity. But totalitarians love that stuff


Yes you are. The populace doesn’t need weapons of war. Only pistols, hunting rifles or shotguns should be allowed. New Zealand should be the model.

You have no fucking idea what the fuck you’re talking about.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 8:26 am

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah I’m just making that up. You don’t give a damm about anything but your stupid guns and bullets and if children have to keep getting gunned down in schools oh well.


You shouldn't make stuff up on the internet, it's just silly.

And you don't care about anything except inflicting your trash views on innocent people, and if children keep getting gunned down in schools you'll gleefully use their deaths to fuel your hatred.


I’m not making it up.

Your reversal doesn’t work here. You don’t care and are perfectly fine with this happening over and over again.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 25, 2022 8:27 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I mean ya when you have a heavily armed guy who just crashed his vehicle in a school parking lot after being chased by said cops starts walking towards a target you drop that guy.

I know this because I was taught it. If you are trying to protect a target you protect that target, even if it means shoot first ask questions latter.

Still all of this is showing me that civilian people forces suck and policing should be done by a military branch


And yet you call me the totalitarian.

How is that totalitarian? It’s what most of Europe does when it comes to policing. And besides Military police are a lot better trained and have to be accountable to a lot more things than a civilian cop.

If I tried half the shit a civilian cop does when I was an MP I’d have been court martialed and currently be spending time in the brig
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 25, 2022 8:27 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
In the first mass shooting in the UK in over a decade.


But it happened, yes?


And how many shooting did the US have in that time period?
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Postby Adamede » Wed May 25, 2022 8:27 am

Forsher wrote:
Adamede wrote:Yah good luck trying to collect even a fraction of the guns in America.

Hell one of the most notable outcomes of pushes for more gun control is civilians rushing out and buying MORE GUNS!


That comment went way over your head.

No I got. Yes, police bad.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 8:27 am

Adamede wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yes you are. The populace doesn’t need weapons of war. Only pistols, hunting rifles or shotguns should be allowed. New Zealand should be the model.

You have no fucking idea what the fuck you’re talking about.


Yes I do. Your simply content with this happening over and over again like so many others.

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Postby Adamede » Wed May 25, 2022 8:28 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Adamede wrote:And yours?


Oh. You going to play this game again. Never mind then.

If you’re not going to play by the rules you hold others too why should I play by your rules?
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Postby Mets Hayk » Wed May 25, 2022 8:28 am

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah I’m just making that up. You don’t give a damm about anything but your stupid guns and bullets and if children have to keep getting gunned down in schools oh well.


You shouldn't make stuff up on the internet, it's just silly.

And you don't care about anything except inflicting your trash views on innocent people, and if children keep getting gunned down in schools you'll gleefully use their deaths to fuel your hatred.


Lumen, you've effectively lost all credibility here...
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 25, 2022 8:28 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Food for thought: The school district for Robb Elementary has its own police department with 5 officers and 1 security guard. The city of Uvalde's police department recieved just under 40% of the entire city's budget for the year and got a $500k grant from the state. Neither stopped the massacre.

Maybe it's time to reevaluate skyrocketing police budgets if they're not actually going to help.

This is actually a good point. The police did Jackshit. They should be held accountable for their failure instead of banning guns


Kind of hard to do with the police union.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 25, 2022 8:29 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:This is actually a good point. The police did Jackshit. They should be held accountable for their failure instead of banning guns


Kind of hard to do with the police union.


Police shouldn’t be allowed to have unions.

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Postby Adamede » Wed May 25, 2022 8:29 am

San Lumen wrote:
Adamede wrote:You have no fucking idea what the fuck you’re talking about.


Yes I do. Your simply content with this happening over and over again like so many others.

No, you don’t. That you think that AR’s are some how different from most other guns shows that you have no idea what you’re fucking talking about.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed May 25, 2022 8:30 am

Suppose that the gun control and confiscation that TYT wants for the US went through, criminals in the US would still have access to weaponry that is now illegal and plenty of civilians who selectively break laws will probably not obey such a gun law, more than a few just won't ever be caught. There is already a huge supply in circulation that the black market in the US could pull from. The US isn't like Japan where there are no good weapons available because the nobility had it outlawed and supply heavily limited from early on.
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