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Postby Utquiagvik » Tue May 17, 2022 4:45 am

This thread is about the recent shootings and massacres which have occurred in the U.S, such as the Buffalo, New York mass shooting and the Shooting at a church in Southern California. This is a direct sequel to the Buffalo Shooting Thread, which got deleted because of constant flaming and becoming off-topic. In this thread, i want everyone to actually stay on topic about shootings or other massacres in the U.S (or other countries, as well.)
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Postby Aubado » Tue May 17, 2022 4:58 am

The main agenda for the US is the second amendment. I wonder what is the centre point of discussion in other countries.

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Postby Adamede » Tue May 17, 2022 9:46 am

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Postby Vassenor » Tue May 17, 2022 9:50 am

Adamede wrote:The other thread is still up, just going through being trawled at the moment.

Anyway I don't think we're going to hear too much about the OC church shooting going forward.


This thread is going to stay locked. Fully 1/3 of the posts I read were completely off topic, with the tangents going off into at least three different directions barely relating to the current and developing news story. If someone else would like to start a new one with a fresh slate, please feel free to do so.


So we're fulfilling the second part here.
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Postby Adamede » Tue May 17, 2022 9:57 am

Vassenor wrote:
Adamede wrote:The other thread is still up, just going through being trawled at the moment.

Anyway I don't think we're going to hear too much about the OC church shooting going forward.


This thread is going to stay locked. Fully 1/3 of the posts I read were completely off topic, with the tangents going off into at least three different directions barely relating to the current and developing news story. If someone else would like to start a new one with a fresh slate, please feel free to do so.


So we're fulfilling the second part here.

Welp I'm a dumbass.

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Postby Utquiagvik » Tue May 17, 2022 10:07 am

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2 people were injured in a shooting in Camp Springs, Maryland.

In further news about the California Church Shooting, it has been recognized as a hate crime.
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Postby Uawc » Tue May 17, 2022 12:21 pm

Here we go again. :roll: It seems even in times like these, angry racists gotta pop one off.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue May 17, 2022 12:29 pm

Uawc wrote:Here we go again. :roll: It seems even in times like these, angry racists gotta pop one off.


It is a logical consequence when your entire society is taught to only think in dichotomies. The view of the other side will become more and more extreme; until hurting the other side seems noble and heroic.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue May 17, 2022 12:44 pm

What this person did doesn't take away from the fact that the primary complaint that the far right has- that Whites are shrinking towards becoming a permanent minority in most majority White countries, is seemingly happening. Which doesn't bode well for the White race not becoming extinct over the long term. So long as the people who believe in Great Replacement Theory see trends/facts which validate their worldview, there will continue to be some people who'll take action as they see fit, even if it won't meaningfully change the outcome or state of affairs they're lashing out against.
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Postby Untecna » Tue May 17, 2022 12:47 pm

and as usual sai has to make a disgusting comment

this is why we should nuke NSG
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Postby Arvenia » Tue May 17, 2022 12:50 pm

Saiwania wrote:What this person did doesn't take away from the fact that the primary complaint that the far right has- that Whites are shrinking towards becoming a permanent minority in most majority White countries, is seemingly happening. Which doesn't bode well for the White race not becoming extinct over the long term. So long as the people who believe in Great Replacement Theory see trends/facts which validate their worldview, there will continue to be some people who'll take action as they see fit, even if it won't meaningfully change the outcome or state of affairs they're lashing out against.

Dude, please stop making controversial posts.
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Postby American Legionaries » Tue May 17, 2022 12:54 pm

Saiwania wrote:What this person did doesn't take away from the fact that the primary complaint that the far right has- that Whites are shrinking towards becoming a permanent minority in most majority White countries, is seemingly happening. Which doesn't bode well for the White race not becoming extinct over the long term. So long as the people who believe in Great Replacement Theory see trends/facts which validate their worldview, there will continue to be some people who'll take action as they see fit, even if it won't meaningfully change the outcome or state of affairs they're lashing out against.


That people have this complaint is the problem. And the fact that it's defended leads me to believe it's only solvable my making those who have this complaint unable to complain.

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Postby Saiwania » Tue May 17, 2022 12:57 pm

Arvenia wrote:Dude, please stop making controversial posts.


I'm merely telling the truth about what goes on. The best way to prevent others like him is to directly address or alleviate their fears/concerns. But problem is, there is no way for societies to do this if what they're worried about is indeed happening. Perhaps it is not for the reasons they think, but in the end- it is a difficult time we're living in for different reasons.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 17, 2022 12:57 pm

Saiwania wrote:What this person did doesn't take away from the fact that the primary complaint that the far right has- that Whites are shrinking towards becoming a permanent minority in most majority White countries, is seemingly happening. Which doesn't bode well for the White race not becoming extinct over the long term. So long as the people who believe in Great Replacement Theory see trends/facts which validate their worldview, there will continue to be some people who'll take action as they see fit, even if it won't meaningfully change the outcome or state of affairs they're lashing out against.


I’m still waiting for you to explain what is so damm special about being white. If your not one of the ingenious peoples you cannot claim any country in the Americas as being yours.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue May 17, 2022 12:58 pm

:lol:
Arvenia wrote:
Saiwania wrote:What this person did doesn't take away from the fact that the primary complaint that the far right has- that Whites are shrinking towards becoming a permanent minority in most majority White countries, is seemingly happening. Which doesn't bode well for the White race not becoming extinct over the long term. So long as the people who believe in Great Replacement Theory see trends/facts which validate their worldview, there will continue to be some people who'll take action as they see fit, even if it won't meaningfully change the outcome or state of affairs they're lashing out against.

Dude, please stop making controversial posts.

Why ? If you want to solve the problem you have to understand how the people committing these attacks think.

Very few people see themselves as evil. These people killed because they believed it was the right thing to do. For instance because they do not want "their race" to vanish.

Dismissing that does not solve the problem of people thinking that way.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 17, 2022 1:02 pm

Saiwania wrote:What this person did doesn't take away from the fact that the primary complaint that the far right has- that Whites are shrinking towards becoming a permanent minority in most majority White countries, is seemingly happening. Which doesn't bode well for the White race not becoming extinct over the long term. So long as the people who believe in Great Replacement Theory see trends/facts which validate their worldview, there will continue to be some people who'll take action as they see fit, even if it won't meaningfully change the outcome or state of affairs they're lashing out against.


Who the fuck cares if the white people go extinct? I am white and I don’t care. I am also what you would call a race traitor as I don’t care about the skin color of women. If she tickled my fancy; I would get to know her and ask her out.

Great Replacement Theory? It isn’t even a hypothesis. Just because you tack theory on the end; doesn’t it make it legitimate.

You want more white people? Make it easier for them to live. Less children is usually a choice. If you can give one all the advantages, you didn’t have…..why have multiple and offer less or nothing?

Great Replacement Theory……..where is that head slap emoji? Since Tucker Carlson shit spews this crap; it must be the new boogie man for racists.
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Postby Red Lake Circle » Tue May 17, 2022 1:08 pm

Saiwania wrote:What this person did doesn't take away from the fact that the primary complaint that the far right has- that Whites are shrinking towards becoming a permanent minority in most majority White countries, is seemingly happening. Which doesn't bode well for the White race not becoming extinct over the long term. So long as the people who believe in Great Replacement Theory see trends/facts which validate their worldview, there will continue to be some people who'll take action as they see fit, even if it won't meaningfully change the outcome or state of affairs they're lashing out against.

"The White race" isn't a real thing, but there is a kernel of truth here, I think. People who've tied themselves to the majority racial identity are probably made to feel at threat by the fact that their overall majority is shrinking (becoming the plurality rather than a true majority, though it's unlikely that they'll ever become a real ethnic minority), specifically because it sort of represents them losing some sort of hegemony. Of course, that's not actually why white folks no longer have total cultural hegemony - civil rights movements and such have lessened their total cultural domination, to an extent - but the fact that people and organizations are playing on their fears of waning power and somehow losing their culture is probably a massive contributor to these shootings.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue May 17, 2022 1:22 pm

Saiwania wrote:What this person did doesn't take away from the fact that the primary complaint that the far right has- that Whites are shrinking towards becoming a permanent minority in most majority White countries, is seemingly happening. Which doesn't bode well for the White race not becoming extinct over the long term. So long as the people who believe in Great Replacement Theory see trends/facts which validate their worldview, there will continue to be some people who'll take action as they see fit, even if it won't meaningfully change the outcome or state of affairs they're lashing out against.


Why are US white people worried about becoming a minority? Are minorities treated badly in the US or something?

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Postby Salus Maior » Tue May 17, 2022 1:34 pm

I'm academically interested in reading that manifesto of his. I'm curious how much in common it has with the NZ shooter's manifesto.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue May 17, 2022 1:58 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgrliuQW_-Q

Video proof of Joe Biden endorsing "White replacement" for the US. Does this help the situation at all? No, it doesn't. This is just one more thing that the Stormfront crowd or far right will be more agitated or riled up about. It is bad enough that what people see with their own eyes in real life, often confirms their own beliefs or justifies their discontent. We have certain decision makers poking a hornet's nest which will make future incidents more and not less likely.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 17, 2022 2:08 pm

Saiwania wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgrliuQW_-Q

Video proof of Joe Biden endorsing "White replacement" for the US. Does this help the situation at all? No, it doesn't. This is just one more thing that the Stormfront crowd or far right will be more agitated or riled up about. It is bad enough that what people see with their own eyes in real life, often confirms their own beliefs or justifies their discontent. We have certain decision makers poking a hornet's nest which will make future incidents more and not less likely.


Now now. Don’t tell lies.

He didn’t endorse the white replacement crap. He spoke of the melting pot. This is what the US does(at least in design)

I don’t care what the stormfront crowd thinks. They are jaded beyond belief. And yes I did hang out there for awhile just to see what it’s about.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue May 17, 2022 2:09 pm

Saiwania wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgrliuQW_-Q

Video proof of Joe Biden endorsing "White replacement" for the US. Does this help the situation at all? No, it doesn't. This is just one more thing that the Stormfront crowd or far right will be more agitated or riled up about. It is bad enough that what people see with their own eyes in real life, often confirms their own beliefs or justifies their discontent. We have certain decision makers poking a hornet's nest which will make future incidents more and not less likely.


America isn't a "European homeland" so the racists shouldn't care.

Europeans are just about as native to America as Africans are.
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Postby Adamede » Tue May 17, 2022 2:10 pm

Saiwania wrote:What this person did doesn't take away from the fact that the primary complaint that the far right has- that Whites are shrinking towards becoming a permanent minority in most majority White countries, is seemingly happening. Which doesn't bode well for the White race not becoming extinct over the long term. So long as the people who believe in Great Replacement Theory see trends/facts which validate their worldview, there will continue to be some people who'll take action as they see fit, even if it won't meaningfully change the outcome or state of affairs they're lashing out against.

The fastest growing ethnic group in America are Latinos, most of whom are majority European in ancestry.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 17, 2022 2:11 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Saiwania wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgrliuQW_-Q

Video proof of Joe Biden endorsing "White replacement" for the US. Does this help the situation at all? No, it doesn't. This is just one more thing that the Stormfront crowd or far right will be more agitated or riled up about. It is bad enough that what people see with their own eyes in real life, often confirms their own beliefs or justifies their discontent. We have certain decision makers poking a hornet's nest which will make future incidents more and not less likely.


America isn't a "European homeland" so the racists shouldn't care.

Europeans are just about as native to America as Africans are.


Hey man. The tribes were living on our lands!
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Postby Arvenia » Tue May 17, 2022 2:13 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
America isn't a "European homeland" so the racists shouldn't care.

Europeans are just about as native to America as Africans are.


Hey man. The tribes were living on our lands!

Exactly. Native Americans were first to live in America.
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