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Gujsbo wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Ok…

So you are a fascist then? Or a neo Nazi?

I'm saying if those two things were true I would join my local fascist party which I'm not a fascist because I don't believe in those two things.

Dude, you're a "white identitarian," you absolutely do believe in at least the first thing lmao

Gujsbo wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Ok…

So you are a fascist then? Or a neo Nazi?

I'm saying if those two things were true I would join my local fascist party which I'm not a fascist because I don't believe in those two things.

That makes no goddamn sense.

Gujsbo wrote:

Red Lake Circle wrote:Dude, you're a "white identitarian," you absolutely do believe in at least the first thing lmao

BLM is a black identitarian movement so does that make it a black supremacist group? We are really getting off-topic I advise we stop before the mods come and yell at us.

Apparently "police need to stop killing people" is identarian now.

Gujsbo wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
Apparently "police need to stop killing people" is identarian now.

They also advocate for Anti-White propaganda and the deconstruction of our identity let's say if I made a group dedicated to deconstructing the Trans identity and you responded with "We are oppressed we need representation and a fair share of the conversation" That's identity politics and once more this thread gets derailed.

You don't seem to understand the concept that the dominant group of a society, by definition, cannot be oppressed.

Risottia wrote:

Hukhalia wrote:I also want France to disappear into the ocean. But that's less political and more because I am deterministically predisposed to hate France and all its people as an English person.

So you are an extraEUropean trying to sink one of our founding countries?

personally as far as i am concerned i do not care who is and isn't an EU member, the entire organisation is dedicated to the maintenance of the imperialist anglo-euro-american world hegemony and must be obliterated

Gujsbo wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
Apparently "police need to stop killing people" is identarian now.

They also advocate for Anti-White propaganda and the deconstruction of our identity let's say if I made a group dedicated to deconstructing the Trans identity and you responded with "We are oppressed we need representation and a fair share of the conversation" That's identity politics and once more this thread gets derailed.

Show us them advocating for that.

Gujsbo wrote:

Rusozak wrote:
You don't seem to understand the concept that the dominant group of a society, by definition, cannot be oppressed.

So there can be no discrimination towards white people (Nation of Islam) and groups that want to send us back to Europe? And apparently, our interests do not matter?

1) Talking about very fringe groups like the modern NoI is doing you no favors
2) Are you, perhaps, mistaking the idea of deconstructing racial identity as a whole with specifically trying to dismantle the white identity as a way to "get a leg up" or... something? Because how would that even fucking work?

Gujsbo wrote:I would also argue there is Anti-White propaganda going through the education system and the news

Such as what?

Gujsbo wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
Such as what?

Eh
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/17/maga ... ilege.html
https://www.penncapital-star.com/civil- ... -ledewitz/
https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/ ... story.html
https://time.com/5846072/black-people-p ... pens-next/
https://theconversation.com/white-supre ... -us-157566
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/20/us/angry ... index.html
https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ899418.pdf
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... about-race

MY FAVORITES
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/opin ... women.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... e-friends/
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3177688

This is where it gets good
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maiahoskin ... 45ef963174
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mag ... -feminism/

Damn what the?
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/16/us/repar ... index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/us/slave ... index.html

Oh no
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/09/87337541 ... st-society

Again Anti-White propaganda

The one that shocked me the most is "Why I refuse to watch white women cry"

Ah, I see we’re doing the Gish Gallop then.

And apparently it’s “anti-white propaganda” to say Slavery was bad.

Gujsbo wrote:Demanding reparations 150 years later? And you asked for a lot of evidence of proof of Anti-White propaganda so yeah...

the effects of slavery are still very much being felt, and slavery is still legal and widespread in prisons. it's not "anti-white propaganda" to point this out

Gujsbo wrote:

Mettaton-EX wrote:the effects of slavery are still very much being felt, and slavery is still legal and widespread in prisons. it's not "anti-white propaganda" to point this out

Yes, but did I enslave there African Ancestors?

Did anyone say you personally did?

San Lumen wrote:

Indomitable Friendship wrote:US is totalitarian. We have police; we have prisons and we have laws that dictate every aspect of a person's life. Stop trying to tell me a couple extra links on the chain is freedom. I'm not having that conservative nonsense.

I talk to a few Serbs and they say their country is miserable and dying. Everyone is leaving for jobs. Slovenia is a tiny place, so it can't be much better in that regard. It's irrelevant. I'm just tying to get through school and put food on the table. Moving is not even something to consider.

Law and order is bad thing? why not just admit your an anarchist who doesn't want law or any sort of order? what should happen to the evil man who did this horrible act at the supermarket?

Can the government go to far sometimes? Yes. That does not mean we shouldn't have any laws at all.

A few Serbs does not represent the entire country. Regarding Slovenia your making absurd assumption about a country you likely know nothing about.

I generally am opposed to laws and think that "order" being dependent on them is a conservative fabrication. Throughout the entirety of tha animal kingdom, ecosystems have "order" without law and I don't think humans are far different, if given the chance. I do think there needs to be environmental/ecological rules, though, with our large population. As for what should happen to the shooter, you know I support firearm access and people handling their own business. Whatever people decided to do with him is their prerogative, no state law needed. I'm not really an anarchist because I think there needs to be an overarching body for the sake of efficiency, but I object to the "govern" in government. I think the State should be more like a service apparatus to the people with lots of horizontal leadership, so, instead of a govern-ment, I would like a service-ment, if that remotely makes sense.

Red Lake Circle wrote:

Gujsbo wrote:I'm saying if those two things were true I would join my local fascist party which I'm not a fascist because I don't believe in those two things.

Dude, you're a "white identitarian," you absolutely do believe in at least the first thing lmao

You can be ethnocentric identitarian and not be fascist. Expand your mind.

Gujsbo wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
Did anyone say you personally did?

No, but why should I have to face the consequences of something I did not do?

What consequences are you being subjected to?

Vassenor wrote:

Gujsbo wrote:No, but why should I have to face the consequences of something I did not do?

What consequences are you being subjected to?

He has to be polite to niggers.

As for being "White" and "White culture", that's a difficult and complex thing to try to articulate into words. It's like being asked to describe what it means to be human, but even more specific. It's more of a visceral feeling, like music. We're more emotional, more abstract, more individualistic than most others, among other things.

Fartsniffage wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
What consequences are you being subjected to?

He has to be polite to niggers.

I shall never allow a negro to outdo me in courtesy
---Jefferson Davis

Gujsbo wrote:

Indomitable Friendship wrote:You can be ethnocentric identitarian and not be fascist. Expand your mind.

I have talked to fascists and they say I am a Jewish shill and a Christni**er ok because I am against deporting racial groups and against perpetrating violence against those groups? Any questions?

No, no questions, I have years of experience debating those angry losers, so I know how you feel. Don't worry about the things they say.

Indomitable Friendship wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Law and order is bad thing? why not just admit your an anarchist who doesn't want law or any sort of order? what should happen to the evil man who did this horrible act at the supermarket?

Can the government go to far sometimes? Yes. That does not mean we shouldn't have any laws at all.

A few Serbs does not represent the entire country. Regarding Slovenia your making absurd assumption about a country you likely know nothing about.

I generally am opposed to laws and think that "order" being dependent on them is a conservative fabrication. Throughout the entirety of tha animal kingdom, ecosystems have "order" without law and I don't think humans are far different, if given the chance. I do think there needs to be environmental/ecological rules, though, with our large population. As for what should happen to the shooter, you know I support firearm access and people handling their own business. Whatever people decided to do with him is their prerogative, no state law needed. I'm not really an anarchist because I think there needs to be an overarching body for the sake of efficiency, but I object to the "govern" in government. I think the State should be more like a service apparatus to the people with lots of horizontal leadership, so, instead of a govern-ment, I would like a service-ment, if that remotely makes sense.

No it makes zero sense. This evil man deserves to go to prison for decades. Somalia is a prefect example of what happens when you don't have a functioning government.

Your idealism has never worked and never will.

Another thing I want to address is this "White Supremacy" trash that you all keep regurgitating. The average Euro and diaspora has been exploited, held in poverty and sacrificed on battlefields like an expendable resource for over a thousand years. It's not "White Supremacy" when 99% of Euros are treated like human garbage by their ruling classes and sacrificed en masse and abused for their benefit. Add in how we've been oppressed and genetically domesticated by law enforcement and it's clear that the 1st and foremost victims of "White supremacy" are Europeans themselves.

San Lumen wrote:

Indomitable Friendship wrote:
I generally am opposed to laws and think that "order" being dependent on them is a conservative fabrication. Throughout the entirety of tha animal kingdom, ecosystems have "order" without law and I don't think humans are far different, if given the chance. I do think there needs to be environmental/ecological rules, though, with our large population. As for what should happen to the shooter, you know I support firearm access and people handling their own business. Whatever people decided to do with him is their prerogative, no state law needed. I'm not really an anarchist because I think there needs to be an overarching body for the sake of efficiency, but I object to the "govern" in government. I think the State should be more like a service apparatus to the people with lots of horizontal leadership, so, instead of a govern-ment, I would like a service-ment, if that remotely makes sense.

No it makes zero sense. This evil man deserves to go to prison for decades. Somalia is a prefect example of what happens when you don't have a functioning government.

Your idealism has never worked and never will.

Decades? San Lumen, please. He deserves life in high security without possibility of parole.

Indomitable Friendship wrote:Another thing I want to address is this "White Supremacy" trash that you all keep regurgitating. The average Euro and diaspora has been exploited, held in poverty and sacrificed on battlefields like an expendable resource for over a thousand years. It's not "White Supremacy" when 99% of Euros are treated like human garbage by their ruling classes and sacrificed en masse and abused for their benefit. Add in how we've been oppressed and genetically domesticated by law enforcement and it's clear that the 1st and foremost victims of "White supremacy" are Europeans themselves.

is this why the average white european in european countries is infinitely more economically advantaged and politically represented than the average nonwhite european

Gujsbo wrote:

Fartsniffage wrote:
He has to be polite to niggers.

Cant be deleted now

Why would I delete it?

Indomitable Friendship wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Law and order is bad thing? why not just admit your an anarchist who doesn't want law or any sort of order? what should happen to the evil man who did this horrible act at the supermarket?

Can the government go to far sometimes? Yes. That does not mean we shouldn't have any laws at all.

A few Serbs does not represent the entire country. Regarding Slovenia your making absurd assumption about a country you likely know nothing about.

I generally am opposed to laws and think that "order" being dependent on them is a conservative fabrication. Throughout the entirety of tha animal kingdom, ecosystems have "order" without law and I don't think humans are far different, if given the chance. I do think there needs to be environmental/ecological rules, though, with our large population. As for what should happen to the shooter, you know I support firearm access and people handling their own business. Whatever people decided to do with him is their prerogative, no state law needed. I'm not really an anarchist because I think there needs to be an overarching body for the sake of efficiency, but I object to the "govern" in government. I think the State should be more like a service apparatus to the people with lots of horizontal leadership, so, instead of a govern-ment, I would like a service-ment, if that remotely makes sense.

ah, so people should be allowed to kill whoever they want and their punishment is up to random people because that’s how it happens in nature? that seems like a great way for thousands of people to be murdered.

Indomitable Friendship wrote:As for being "White" and "White culture", that's a difficult and complex thing to try to articulate into words. It's like being asked to describe what it means to be human, but even more specific. It's more of a visceral feeling, like music. We're more emotional, more abstract, more individualistic than most others, among other things.

ah, so having white skin means you’re more emotional?

the funny thing is that within a day or so, you’ll be back at the whole “I’m not a racist!” shtick and you’ll pretend you never said this.