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Postby Tarsonis » Tue May 17, 2022 7:49 pm

No more coke fueled orgies for Cawthorne
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 17, 2022 7:51 pm

Tarsonis wrote:No more coke fueled orgies for Cawthorne


Good riddance. He’s an utter embarrassment.

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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 7:53 pm

Now for a few more calls:

GOP NC-6(Greensboro-Winston-Salem): Christian Castelli
GOP PA-6(Reading): Guy Ciarrochi

Meanwhile, in Pittsburgh, with only a few thousands votes left to count, Summer Lee has a majority of 47, though most remaining votes are in more mainstream Westmoreland County.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue May 17, 2022 7:53 pm

Tarsonis wrote:No more coke fueled orgies for Cawthorne


I’m very pleasantly surprised at Cawthorne lost. The fucker is a troll and needs to go back to humping his male cousin,
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Postby American Legionaries » Tue May 17, 2022 7:54 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:No more coke fueled orgies for Cawthorne


I’m very pleasantly surprised at Cawthorne lost. The fucker is a troll and needs to go back to humping his male cousin,


What did his cousin ever do to you?

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Postby Uiiop » Tue May 17, 2022 7:54 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:No more coke fueled orgies for Cawthorne


I’m very pleasantly surprised at Cawthorne lost. The fucker is a troll and needs to go back to humping his male cousin,

He's an jerk but his downfall was for the wrong reasons so i'm not bothered to care.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue May 17, 2022 7:57 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
I’m very pleasantly surprised at Cawthorne lost. The fucker is a troll and needs to go back to humping his male cousin,


What did his cousin ever do to you?


Can cousins get gay married in NC?
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Postby American Legionaries » Tue May 17, 2022 8:01 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
What did his cousin ever do to you?


Can cousins get gay married in NC?


Unless they're double first cousins, apparently.

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Postby Zurkerx » Tue May 17, 2022 8:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
I wouldn't either: I consider Fetterman one of the strongest Democratic Senate Candidates. He is the right choice but he will have to overcome the national environment, which is not impossible: he's fairly popular in PA and if I'm not mistaken, McCormick's free trade stances I feel will be a target.


Plus Mastriano could be a drag on the whole ticket.


It would put Republicans in a fickle: they seem heavily reluctant to endorse Mastriano. I can't blame them but they do risk alienating those type of voters, which may cost them in other races. It seems the RGA has no intention (at the moment) to help Mastriano. They seem to think PA is lost on that front.

Oh, and I see McCormick is only leading by .2% and with less than a 2,500 votes margin; McCormick has 31.5% while Oz has 31.3%. And that's with 86% of the vote in. We'll see a small margin of victory but Oz is catching up.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 17, 2022 8:02 pm

Shrillland wrote:And to leapfrog again with another round of big calls:

GOP NC-11(Asheville): Chuck Edwards
GOP PA-Senate: Dave McCormick
GOP PA-7(Lehigh Valley): Lisa Scheller

In re Asheville, looking at the numbers, Cawthorn can keep making it close, but both are above 30% so a runoff isn't likely, nor do I see Cawthorn actually overtopping Edwards at this stage. As for Pennsylvania, I said I was waiting for more from the Southeast, and it arrived.

A hard night for Trump, and Idaho's going to make it harder still since his losses outnumber his wins so far.

PA senate race for the GOP looks like it’s in recount territory. Currently only .61% separate Oz from McCormick. Just .11% more than the needed .5% to trigger an automatic recount
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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 8:02 pm

Polls are now closed in PDT Idaho and PDT Oregon.

Oregon counts fast, so we may know all before the hour's out.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 17, 2022 8:03 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
I’m very pleasantly surprised at Cawthorne lost. The fucker is a troll and needs to go back to humping his male cousin,


What did his cousin ever do to you?

Oh nothing but apparently Cawthorn had done some pretty gay things with his first cousin
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue May 17, 2022 8:05 pm

Deblar wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
I wouldn't say his career's dead, he's got a good future doing punditry for Fox News or some such thing.

I don't think even Fox will touch the man. OAN might, who knows


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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 17, 2022 8:06 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Plus Mastriano could be a drag on the whole ticket.


It would put Republicans in a fickle: they seem heavily reluctant to endorse Mastriano. I can't blame them but they do risk alienating those type of voters, which may cost them in other races. It seems the RGA has no intention (at the moment) to help Mastriano. They seem to think PA is lost on that front.

Oh, and I see McCormick is only leading by .2% and with less than a 2,500 votes margin; McCormick has 31.5% while Oz has 31.3%. And that's with 86% of the vote in. We'll see a small margin of victory but Oz is catching up.

If that remains that means automatic recounts. Which isn’t going to help the republicans at all, especially if Oz loses
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue May 17, 2022 8:06 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
What did his cousin ever do to you?

Oh nothing but apparently Cawthorn had done some pretty gay things with his first cousin


Ew times infinity.
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Postby Forsher » Tue May 17, 2022 8:11 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Yeah, but we're just talking strictly primary voters, which can be harder to decipher, though what we're seeing in Buncombe County now says that Cawthorn may be gone.

If he is gone then the GOP blackmail worked. Painting him as gay worked to get him removed.


This is probably not a surprise to you, but 538 agrees with this analysis:

It’s worth pointing out here in the conversation about Cawthorn that it appeared the opposition research against him was at the very least trying to hint that Cawthorn may be closeted. Voters may be reacting to that as much as any of his scandals. The most graphic leak was a video in which a naked Cawthorn thrusted his pelvis toward a man’s head while lying in bed. The president of a PAC aimed at removing Cawthorn from office filed an ethics complaint that gifts and loans to Cawthorn’s scheduler were not properly disclosed and a video also leaked of the scheduler’s hand on Cawthorn’s crotch. There’s also a photo of Cawthorn wearing women’s lingerie on a cruise. I have absolutely no knowledge of Cawthorn’s sexuality, but it doesn’t take a genius to see what this opposition dump was intimating.


However regarding:

Ifreann wrote:C'mon, Madison, name names. They've killed your career, at least try to take a few of them with you.


Firstly, what would he have on them? Are you suggesting he also out them?

Secondly, the premise may be seriously flawed:

You know, the amazing thing is, you can’t totally discount Cawthorn reappearing someday in politics. The guy is 26 years old and just lost renomination in the House. Just think, a run in 2040 or something when he’s the ripe old age of 44…


18 years is a long time for (a) voters to forget and (b) to reforge a new, less easily assailable image and (c) this is America, he could just as well try again in 38 years as a near-retiree.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 17, 2022 8:12 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Plus Mastriano could be a drag on the whole ticket.


It would put Republicans in a fickle: they seem heavily reluctant to endorse Mastriano. I can't blame them but they do risk alienating those type of voters, which may cost them in other races. It seems the RGA has no intention (at the moment) to help Mastriano. They seem to think PA is lost on that front.

Oh, and I see McCormick is only leading by .2% and with less than a 2,500 votes margin; McCormick has 31.5% while Oz has 31.3%. And that's with 86% of the vote in. We'll see a small margin of victory but Oz is catching up.


That could mean losing the State House and Senate.

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Postby Free Algerstonia » Tue May 17, 2022 8:12 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Deblar wrote:I don't think even Fox will touch the man. OAN might, who knows


OAN needs Jesus.

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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 8:15 pm

AP's officially called it: Cawthorn's lost. As for Pennsylvania...I may have called that Senate race a little too soon, but I'm not retracting yet. McCormick's down to a majority of 1,918.

Meanwhile, some more calls(I told you Oregon was fast):

GOP ID-Senate: Mike Crapo
GOP ID-2(Eastern Idaho): Mike Simpson
Dem NC-7(Fayetteville-Wilmington): Charles Graham
Dem OR-Senate: Ron Wyden
Dem OR-Governor: Tina Kotek
GOP OR-1(Portland Central-Astoria): Christopher Mann
Dem OR-1(Portland Central-Astoria): Suzanne Bonamici
GOP OR-2(Medford-Pendleton): Cliff Bentz
Dem OR-2(Medford-Pendleton): Joe Yetter
Dem OR-3(Portland-Hood River): Earl Blumenauer
Dem OR-4(Eugene): Val Hoyle
GOP OR-5(Portland-Bend): Lori Chavez-DeRemer
GOP OR-6(Salem): Mike Erickson
Dem OR-6(Salem: Andrea Salinas
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue May 17, 2022 8:16 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
What did his cousin ever do to you?

Oh nothing but apparently Cawthorn had done some pretty gay things with his first cousin



He tired to play it off as “buddies goofing around”. I mean, I don’t know of any allegedly completely heterosexual man that would thrust his dick into a guys face. I mean, I’m homosexual, and I don’t trust my junk into my male friends’s faces.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 17, 2022 8:16 pm

Shrillland wrote:AP's officially called it: Cawthorn's lost.

He’s also conceded.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue May 17, 2022 8:16 pm

Our final call in Pennsylvania

Lieutenant Governor Republican: Carrie Lewis DelRosso

Pennsylvania is one of a few states were the Governor and Lieutenant Governor run in separate primaries but as a ticket in the general.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue May 17, 2022 8:17 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Oh nothing but apparently Cawthorn had done some pretty gay things with his first cousin



He tired to play it off as “buddies goofing around”. I mean, I don’t know of any allegedly completely heterosexual man that would thrust his dick into a guys face. I mean, I’m homosexual, and I don’t trust my junk into my male friends’s faces.

I know several. Drunk guys can be entertaining to watch
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
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Prima Scriptura
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Tue May 17, 2022 8:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:

He tired to play it off as “buddies goofing around”. I mean, I don’t know of any allegedly completely heterosexual man that would thrust his dick into a guys face. I mean, I’m homosexual, and I don’t trust my junk into my male friends’s faces.

I know several. Drunk guys can be entertaining to watch


I wouldn’t know. I rarely drink and when I do, I drink alone.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 17, 2022 8:27 pm

San Lumen wrote:Our final call in Pennsylvania

Lieutenant Governor Republican: Carrie Lewis DelRosso

Pennsylvania is one of a few states were the Governor and Lieutenant Governor run in separate primaries but as a ticket in the general.


Not quite, there's one more to make, one where I was wrong and reports of the Progressive Movement's death have been exaggerated:

Dem PA-12(Pittsburgh): Summer Lee

A race that no one was watching became a big Democratic surprise.
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