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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:01 am

Sordhau wrote:
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That'd be awesome tbh. Return to polytheism.


Ew no polytheism is super cringe.


This is true leftist infighting.
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Postby American Legionaries » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:01 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Catholic America wrote:
No. Religion is benifical to a humans mental health and gives life a deeper purpose and meaning and gives people a sense of belonging and community. Its even better for kids, cause they will be part of a church community on top of school and home, which will lead to better social skills.

So can I bus American schools to Shinto shrines on sundays?


Well, yeah, so long as you don't compel attendance.

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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:01 am

Skelly Man Dan wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Good for you. Too bad it’s taken the majority of the party.

I miss Nelson Rockefeller and I wasn’t even alive in that era.


Eh, GMS has said in the past that he wants a full blockade of Cuba, including basic necessities. He also isn’t bothered by a war to overthrow its government.

The GOP has been swinging between “invade countries we don’t like” and “we don’t feel like honoring our commitments” like a pendulum, so I’d be careful even if a supporter doesn’t fit in one of those categories.

GMS: I said I support a US Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out until the Cuban dictatorship regime falls from within and without. I have posted in the past, except for food. It is better to end the so called eternal revolution of Cuba, then to excuse, appease, help and support the so called eternal revolution of Cuba.
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Sordhau
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Postby Sordhau » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:01 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Ew no polytheism is super cringe.


This is true leftist infighting.


Revisionist. :p
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:02 am

Catholic America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Or we can get religion out of schools in general.


No. Religion is benifical to a humans mental health and gives life a deeper purpose and meaning and gives people a sense of belonging and community. Its even better for kids, cause they will be part of a church community on top of school and home, which will lead to better social skills.


Can you source this to an actual reliable publication?
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Postby HISPIDA » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:03 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Skelly Man Dan wrote:
Eh, GMS has said in the past that he wants a full blockade of Cuba, including basic necessities. He also isn’t bothered by a war to overthrow its government.

The GOP has been swinging between “invade countries we don’t like” and “we don’t feel like honoring our commitments” like a pendulum, so I’d be careful even if a supporter doesn’t fit in one of those categories.

GMS: I said I support a US Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out until the Cuban dictatorship regime falls from within and without. I have posted in the past, except for food. It is better to end the so called eternal revolution of Cuba, then to excuse, appease, help and support the so called eternal revolution of Cuba.

eternal revolution... eternal revolution...

...eternal is a word. eternal means forever, forever is a synonym of...

gasp...

CASTRO WAS A TROTSKYITE?!

no. nonononononono, no, no, no.

i need a minute.
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Postby Catholic America » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:03 am

Sordhau wrote:
Catholic America wrote:Yes. A deeper spiritual connection with a higher being is a good thing. Especially for children. Im not even saying you have to be Christian, or even participate, but it should be encouraged. Lets be honest. If we gave the kids who dont want to participate iPads during school prayer, and they wont complain


A deeper spiritual connection with a higher being is a good thing.

But mandating prayer in schools is not doing that; it's forcing children to do things they may not want to do.


Now MANDATING I am not in favor of. I am in favor of encouraging that sort of stuff, because I am a true advocate of parental rights in education and not a hypocrite who only wants CRT to be banned and school prayer to stay. In fact, I am in favor of CRT and school prayer, but an opt out system too.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:03 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So can I bus American schools to Shinto shrines on sundays?


Well, yeah, so long as you don't compel attendance.

Wanted to see how offended this guy would be by the thought of his target audience getting bussed to visit what he considers a heathen temple, on his holy day no less.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:04 am

Catholic America wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
You claim it is a great idea but don't say why you believe that.

see my above post.



Would schools benefit from starting the day with a goat sacrifice? You could sit out if you wanted.
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Catholic America
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Postby Catholic America » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:04 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Well, yeah, so long as you don't compel attendance.

Wanted to see how offended this guy would be by the thought of his target audience getting bussed to visit what he considers a heathen temple, on his holy day no less.


Well its holy and provides a spiritual connection for children and gets them into a community outside of discord so, yeah. In favor.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:04 am

Hispida wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:GMS: I said I support a US Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out until the Cuban dictatorship regime falls from within and without. I have posted in the past, except for food. It is better to end the so called eternal revolution of Cuba, then to excuse, appease, help and support the so called eternal revolution of Cuba.

eternal revolution... eternal revolution...

...eternal is a word. eternal means forever, forever is a synonym of...

gasp...

CASTRO WAS A TROTSKYITE?!

no. nonononononono, no, no, no.

i need a minute.


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Catholic America
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Postby Catholic America » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:05 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:
Catholic America wrote:see my above post.



Would schools benefit from starting the day with a goat sacrifice? You could sit out if you wanted.


Sure, why not?
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:06 am

Catholic America wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Wanted to see how offended this guy would be by the thought of his target audience getting bussed to visit what he considers a heathen temple, on his holy day no less.


Well its holy and provides a spiritual connection for children and gets them into a community outside of discord so, yeah. In favor.

You are ok with me leading your flock into apostasy and heathendom? K...
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:06 am

Hispida wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:GMS: I said I support a US Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out until the Cuban dictatorship regime falls from within and without. I have posted in the past, except for food. It is better to end the so called eternal revolution of Cuba, then to excuse, appease, help and support the so called eternal revolution of Cuba.

eternal revolution... eternal revolution...

...eternal is a word. eternal means forever, forever is a synonym of...

gasp...

CASTRO WAS A TROTSKYITE?!

no. nonononononono, no, no, no.

i need a minute.

That is what the Cuban dictatorship regime calls itself, they say they are continuity of the eternal revolution, this statement says it all and proves it all.

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Postby Sordhau » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:06 am

Catholic America wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
A deeper spiritual connection with a higher being is a good thing.

But mandating prayer in schools is not doing that; it's forcing children to do things they may not want to do.


Now MANDATING I am not in favor of. I am in favor of encouraging that sort of stuff, because I am a true advocate of parental rights in education and not a hypocrite who only wants CRT to be banned and school prayer to stay. In fact, I am in favor of CRT and school prayer, but an opt out system too.


Parents shouldn't have a right in education.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:07 am

Sordhau wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This is true leftist infighting.


Revisionist. :p


Ah, but we came first. You're the splitter, stop violating religious democratic centralism or something idk what buzzwords to use.

Hispida wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:GMS: I said I support a US Naval Blockade of Cuba, nothing goes in, nothing goes out until the Cuban dictatorship regime falls from within and without. I have posted in the past, except for food. It is better to end the so called eternal revolution of Cuba, then to excuse, appease, help and support the so called eternal revolution of Cuba.

eternal revolution... eternal revolution...

...eternal is a word. eternal means forever, forever is a synonym of...

gasp...

CASTRO WAS A TROTSKYITE?!

no. nonononononono, no, no, no.

i need a minute.


You're not thinking big enough. Castro was a Trotyskist, sure, but do you know who else was? Posadas, who preached nuclear warfare as a method of building socialism. The Cuban Missile Crisis came close to causing WW3, and guess who led Cuba at the time?

Castro was a Posadist.
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Catholic America
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Postby Catholic America » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:07 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Catholic America wrote:
Well its holy and provides a spiritual connection for children and gets them into a community outside of discord so, yeah. In favor.

You are ok with me leading your flock into apostasy and heathendom? K...


ehhh, shinto isnt really heathendom in my book, but others may disagree.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:08 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Revisionist. :p


Ah, but we came first. You're the splitter, stop violating religious democratic centralism or something idk what buzzwords to use.

Hispida wrote:eternal revolution... eternal revolution...

...eternal is a word. eternal means forever, forever is a synonym of...

gasp...

CASTRO WAS A TROTSKYITE?!

no. nonononononono, no, no, no.

i need a minute.


You're not thinking big enough. Castro was a Trotyskist, sure, but do you know who else was? Posadas, who preached nuclear warfare as a method of building socialism. The Cuban Missile Crisis came close to causing WW3, and guess who led Cuba at the time?

Castro was a Posadist.


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Postby HISPIDA » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:09 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hispida wrote:eternal revolution... eternal revolution...

...eternal is a word. eternal means forever, forever is a synonym of...

gasp...

CASTRO WAS A TROTSKYITE?!

no. nonononononono, no, no, no.

i need a minute.


You're not thinking big enough. Castro was a Trotyskist, sure, but do you know who else was? Posadas, who preached nuclear warfare as a method of building socialism. The Cuban Missile Crisis came close to causing WW3, and guess who led Cuba at the time?

Castro was a Posadist.

no, no no no nooooooooooooo! NOOOOOOOOO! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH, THIS IS NOT HOW THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO GO! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIII HAD IT ALL PLANNED OUT!!!
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:09 am

Also I see we're doing "rigid adherence to the text of the constitution except the bit about keeping religion out of government".
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Postby Catholic America » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:12 am

Vassenor wrote:Also I see we're doing "rigid adherence to the text of the constitution except the bit about keeping religion out of government".

Im just gonna say the quiet part out loud, NO ONE on capitol hill gives two shits about the constitution. Hell, I even kinda feel that the constitution needs to be redrafted to add and remove some stuff.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:13 am

Hispida wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:

You're not thinking big enough. Castro was a Trotyskist, sure, but do you know who else was? Posadas, who preached nuclear warfare as a method of building socialism. The Cuban Missile Crisis came close to causing WW3, and guess who led Cuba at the time?

Castro was a Posadist.

no, no no no nooooooooooooo! NOOOOOOOOO! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH, THIS IS NOT HOW THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO GO! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIII HAD IT ALL PLANNED OUT!!!


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Postby Catholic America » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:14 am

Vassenor wrote:
Catholic America wrote:
No. Religion is benifical to a humans mental health and gives life a deeper purpose and meaning and gives people a sense of belonging and community. Its even better for kids, cause they will be part of a church community on top of school and home, which will lead to better social skills.


Can you source this to an actual reliable publication?


Eh, Il have to look.
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HISPIDA
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Postby HISPIDA » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:15 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Hispida wrote:no, no no no nooooooooooooo! NOOOOOOOOO! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH, THIS IS NOT HOW THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO GO! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIII HAD IT ALL PLANNED OUT!!!


Now will you embrace Chibas?

no
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:15 am

Catholic America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Can you source this to an actual reliable publication?


Eh, Il have to look.


...So you made a claim like that without even making a cursory search to see if it was true or not? That's pretty sloppy debating.
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