Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 12:59 pm
Lmao, 'Republican lies'...
You really can't fathom the idea that people actually disagree with you, can you?
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
https://forum.nationstates.net/
Farnhamia wrote:Prima Scriptura wrote:
A lot of working class white people seem to believe so.
What's that saying about fooling people and how often you can do it? The GOP does very little for working class white people except get them frightened and angry. If the Democrats were better at messaging, Republicans would be an endangered species.
American Legionaries wrote:San Lumen wrote:
I never said that.
So which of these things is a "Republican Lie"
Democrats support abortion access
Democrats support marriage between people of the same sex
Democrats support looser immigration policies and oppose the arrest and deportation of people without valid resident visas.
Democrats support stricter regulations on firearm possession and acquisition
Democrats support people being treated as the gender of their choosing, rather than my the gender implied by their birth sex
Democrats support teaching children about long sta ding systemic racism in the United States
Democrats support increasing taxes, specifically punitive consumption taxes
Because as far as I can tell, I've named every single thing I've ever heard someone cite as why they dislike your party, now where's the lie?
American Legionaries wrote:San Lumen wrote:
I never said that.
So which of these things is a "Republican Lie"
Democrats support abortion access
Democrats support marriage between people of the same sex
Democrats support looser immigration policies and oppose the arrest and deportation of people without valid resident visas.
Democrats support stricter regulations on firearm possession and acquisition
Democrats support people being treated as the gender of their choosing, rather than my the gender implied by their birth sex
Democrats support teaching children about long sta ding systemic racism in the United States
Democrats support increasing taxes, specifically punitive consumption taxes
Because as far as I can tell, I've named every single thing I've ever heard someone cite as why they dislike your party, now where's the lie?
Farnhamia wrote:American Legionaries wrote:
So which of these things is a "Republican Lie"
Democrats support abortion access
Democrats support marriage between people of the same sex
Democrats support looser immigration policies and oppose the arrest and deportation of people without valid resident visas.
Democrats support stricter regulations on firearm possession and acquisition
Democrats support people being treated as the gender of their choosing, rather than my the gender implied by their birth sex
Democrats support teaching children about long sta ding systemic racism in the United States
Democrats support increasing taxes, specifically punitive consumption taxes
Because as far as I can tell, I've named every single thing I've ever heard someone cite as why they dislike your party, now where's the lie?
The lie is in saying that those are bad things. Your path is the path of exclusion. Eventually you'll be all alone with just echoes of your own voice. Well, and maybe Tucker Carlson's voice.
Farnhamia wrote:American Legionaries wrote:
So which of these things is a "Republican Lie"
Democrats support abortion access
Democrats support marriage between people of the same sex
Democrats support looser immigration policies and oppose the arrest and deportation of people without valid resident visas.
Democrats support stricter regulations on firearm possession and acquisition
Democrats support people being treated as the gender of their choosing, rather than my the gender implied by their birth sex
Democrats support teaching children about long sta ding systemic racism in the United States
Democrats support increasing taxes, specifically punitive consumption taxes
Because as far as I can tell, I've named every single thing I've ever heard someone cite as why they dislike your party, now where's the lie?
The lie is in saying that those are bad things. Your path is the path of exclusion. Eventually you'll be all alone with just echoes of your own voice. Well, and maybe Tucker Carlson's voice.
Farnhamia wrote:Prima Scriptura wrote:
A lot of working class white people seem to believe so.
What's that saying about fooling people and how often you can do it? The GOP does very little for working class white people except get them frightened and angry. If the Democrats were better at messaging, Republicans would be an endangered species.
Prima Scriptura wrote:Farnhamia wrote:What's that saying about fooling people and how often you can do it? The GOP does very little for working class white people except get them frightened and angry. If the Democrats were better at messaging, Republicans would be an endangered species.
And Democrats are not doing themselves any favors by calling working class white voters “racist” and “homo/transphobic” either.
Prima Scriptura wrote:American Legionaries wrote:
So which of these things is a "Republican Lie"
Democrats support abortion access
Democrats support marriage between people of the same sex
Democrats support looser immigration policies and oppose the arrest and deportation of people without valid resident visas.
Democrats support stricter regulations on firearm possession and acquisition
Democrats support people being treated as the gender of their choosing, rather than my the gender implied by their birth sex
Democrats support teaching children about long sta ding systemic racism in the United States
Democrats support increasing taxes, specifically punitive consumption taxes
Because as far as I can tell, I've named every single thing I've ever heard someone cite as why they dislike your party, now where's the lie?
To be fair, a majority of Republicans support homosexual couples being able to get a civil marriage
American Legionaries wrote:Prima Scriptura wrote:
To be fair, a majority of Republicans support homosexual couples being able to get a civil marriage
The party's hardly a hive mind, and certain people are driven by various issues. Probably half the positions on that list I support, but party dynamics have resulted in my in the party which opposes them.
San Lumen wrote:Farnhamia wrote:What's that saying about fooling people and how often you can do it? The GOP does very little for working class white people except get them frightened and angry. If the Democrats were better at messaging, Republicans would be an endangered species.
It will take years to undo the damage and rebuild the party in rural areas.
Farnhamia wrote:American Legionaries wrote:
So which of these things is a "Republican Lie"
Democrats support abortion access
Democrats support marriage between people of the same sex
Democrats support looser immigration policies and oppose the arrest and deportation of people without valid resident visas.
Democrats support stricter regulations on firearm possession and acquisition
Democrats support people being treated as the gender of their choosing, rather than my the gender implied by their birth sex
Democrats support teaching children about long sta ding systemic racism in the United States
Democrats support increasing taxes, specifically punitive consumption taxes
Because as far as I can tell, I've named every single thing I've ever heard someone cite as why they dislike your party, now where's the lie?
The lie is in saying that those are bad things. Your path is the path of exclusion. Eventually you'll be all alone with just echoes of your own voice. Well, and maybe Tucker Carlson's voice.
Shrillland wrote:San Lumen wrote:
It will take years to undo the damage and rebuild the party in rural areas.
I'm not sure that it can be done given how the Dems are actually opposed to a lot of farmers on more things than just social issues. A lot of Dems want to see farm subsidies and ethanol subsidies gutted to try to alleviate world poverty, never mind the horrific consequences such measures would have here with the effective price controls such subsidies bring turned off, or the fact that it would make the agribusiness conglomerates ever more powerful as small farmers could no longer hope to make money against foreign imports or big business. Out west, the Dems side against farmers and ranchers on things like water rights and land use rights, something that we who live east of the Mississippi have never had to contemplate because the BLM barely owns land here. On top of all this, the increasingly Democratic mantra of the city as the crowning achievement of civilisation draws a lot of resentment as us rural folks face ever-worsening poverty, drug use, and suicide rates from lack of economic opportunity.
Shrillland wrote:San Lumen wrote:
It will take years to undo the damage and rebuild the party in rural areas.
I'm not sure that it can be done given how the Dems are actually opposed to a lot of farmers on more things than just social issues. A lot of Dems want to see farm subsidies and ethanol subsidies gutted to try to alleviate world poverty, never mind the horrific consequences such measures would have here with the effective price controls such subsidies bring turned off, or the fact that it would make the agribusiness conglomerates ever more powerful as small farmers could no longer hope to make money against foreign imports or big business. Out west, the Dems side against farmers and ranchers on things like water rights and land use rights, something that we who live east of the Mississippi have never had to contemplate because the BLM barely owns land here. On top of all this, the increasingly Democratic mantra of the city as the crowning achievement of civilisation draws a lot of resentment as us rural folks face ever-worsening
poverty, drug use, and suicide rates from lack of economic opportunity.