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The Black Forrest wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You misunderstood his point. The GOP is seemingly poised to deliver one of the largest wins ever in the culture war to their base by overturning Roe, it makes sense that their turnout would be high, especially when combined with a Democratic incumbent president. The Dems haven't done anything to drive up turnout and I honestly don't think trying to use abortion as that thing is going to work.

Oh. How is a culture victory? It’s was more about placing party zealots in SCOTUS then the people changing their views. It will be an interesting vote. It will be where we see the true nature of Alito, Gorsuch, Kav and even the CJ with all their comments about established law and stare decisis. At least Barrett dodged the questions rather then lie about them.

Still I get the feeling it’s going down and we will be pastured with MAGA messages and the SCOTUS is actually neutral and did us a favor.

They don't care about people changing their views. They just care about hurting the people they hate.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You misunderstood his point. The GOP is seemingly poised to deliver one of the largest wins ever in the culture war to their base by overturning Roe, it makes sense that their turnout would be high, especially when combined with a Democratic incumbent president. The Dems haven't done anything to drive up turnout and I honestly don't think trying to use abortion as that thing is going to work.

Oh. How is a culture victory? It’s was more about placing party zealots in SCOTUS then the people changing their views. It will be an interesting vote. It will be where we see the true nature of Alito, Gorsuch, Kav and even the CJ with all their comments about established law and stare decisis. At least Barrett dodged the questions rather then lie about them.

Still I get the feeling it’s going down and we will be pastured with MAGA messages and the SCOTUS is actually neutral and did us a favor.

People don't need to change their views, it's still a win if Roe is overturned. Add to that the rumors that Thomas is going to write the majority opinion for an upcoming gun rights case and SCOTUS is poised to give the GOP a massive shot in the arm in the near future.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh. How is a culture victory? It’s was more about placing party zealots in SCOTUS then the people changing their views. It will be an interesting vote. It will be where we see the true nature of Alito, Gorsuch, Kav and even the CJ with all their comments about established law and stare decisis. At least Barrett dodged the questions rather then lie about them.

Still I get the feeling it’s going down and we will be pastured with MAGA messages and the SCOTUS is actually neutral and did us a favor.

People don't need to change their views, it's still a win if Roe is overturned. Add to that the rumors that Thomas is going to write the majority opinion for an upcoming gun rights case and SCOTUS is poised to give the GOP a massive shot in the arm in the near future.

I'd argue that it remains to be seen whether there are many movable (and by "movable" I'm also including the concept of base mobilization) votes in an environment where the culture war is this pervasive. Like, yeah, I think anti-abortion voters will probably be excited by the overturning of Roe... but how many more of them are voting as a result of that that didn't already vote in every election? It's not clear that there's much room for movement on the margins, even accounting for the shot in the arm versus fury dynamic. If the margins move, obviously they do, but do we really have an analogous example of that in recent history?

Ostroeuropa wrote:I'd also note that the left have pissed away social and political capital, enormous amounts of it, trying to normalize and justify brazen racism and sexism against whites and males,

I suppose there's a criticism to be made about the left being associated with the online culture war, and not doing enough to redirect the narrative back to issues they're popular on. That's about it. I don't consider the left directly responsible for whatever cultural grievances you're reffering to.

Ostroeuropa wrote:the left have pissed away social and political capital, enormous amounts of it, trying to normalize and justify brazen racism and sexism against whites and males

examples of which include…

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh. How is a culture victory? It’s was more about placing party zealots in SCOTUS then the people changing their views. It will be an interesting vote. It will be where we see the true nature of Alito, Gorsuch, Kav and even the CJ with all their comments about established law and stare decisis. At least Barrett dodged the questions rather then lie about them.

Still I get the feeling it’s going down and we will be pastured with MAGA messages and the SCOTUS is actually neutral and did us a favor.

People don't need to change their views, it's still a win if Roe is overturned. Add to that the rumors that Thomas is going to write the majority opinion for an upcoming gun rights case and SCOTUS is poised to give the GOP a massive shot in the arm in the near future.

Oh I see. Cultural was not the right word. It is indeed a conservative win.

The GOP isn’t going to get much of an improvement. Hate is their motivation for the most part. Hate of liberals/left/socialism/intellectualism/whatever. Love of Trump.

The ROE overturn is poorly thought out and there is a shitstorm coming as many legal issues are in play. What does a group say in California do if a Texas woman shows up for an abortion. Do they have to worry about being sued? Is insurance going to pay?, etc., etc.

I am not surprised on the Gun case. There are 4 justices who are only concerned about politics then the law….well…largely….time will tell for the three Trump nominations.

I don’t know about the case you mentioned. Have a link?

Still….even then; I suspect Thomas, Alito, Kav, Gorsuch, and Barrett already decided before the arguments even began.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
People don't need to change their views, it's still a win if Roe is overturned. Add to that the rumors that Thomas is going to write the majority opinion for an upcoming gun rights case and SCOTUS is poised to give the GOP a massive shot in the arm in the near future.

Oh I see. Cultural was not the right word. It is indeed a conservative win.

The GOP isn’t going to get much of an improvement. Hate is their motivation for the most part. Hate of liberals/left/socialism/intellectualism/whatever. Love of Trump.

The ROE overturn is poorly thought out and there is a shitstorm coming as many legal issues are in play. What does a group say in California do if a Texas woman shows up for an abortion. Do they have to worry about being sued? Is insurance going to pay?, etc., etc.

I am not surprised on the Gun case. There are 4 justices who are only concerned about politics then the law….well…largely….time will tell for the three Trump nominations.

I don’t know about the case you mentioned. Have a link?

Still….even then; I suspect Thomas, Alito, Kav, Gorsuch, and Barrett already decided before the arguments even began.

Thomas had to have a seance first to determine which way Scalia's corpse was voting.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
People don't need to change their views, it's still a win if Roe is overturned. Add to that the rumors that Thomas is going to write the majority opinion for an upcoming gun rights case and SCOTUS is poised to give the GOP a massive shot in the arm in the near future.

Oh I see. Cultural was not the right word. It is indeed a conservative win.

The GOP isn’t going to get much of an improvement. Hate is their motivation for the most part. Hate of liberals/left/socialism/intellectualism/whatever. Love of Trump.

The ROE overturn is poorly thought out and there is a shitstorm coming as many legal issues are in play. What does a group say in California do if a Texas woman shows up for an abortion. Do they have to worry about being sued? Is insurance going to pay?, etc., etc.

I am not surprised on the Gun case. There are 4 justices who are only concerned about politics then the law….well…largely….time will tell for the three Trump nominations.

I don’t know about the case you mentioned. Have a link?

Still….even then; I suspect Thomas, Alito, Kav, Gorsuch, and Barrett already decided before the arguments even began.

The US really needs to find a far better alternative to appointing federal justices.

Celritannia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh I see. Cultural was not the right word. It is indeed a conservative win.

The GOP isn’t going to get much of an improvement. Hate is their motivation for the most part. Hate of liberals/left/socialism/intellectualism/whatever. Love of Trump.

The ROE overturn is poorly thought out and there is a shitstorm coming as many legal issues are in play. What does a group say in California do if a Texas woman shows up for an abortion. Do they have to worry about being sued? Is insurance going to pay?, etc., etc.

I am not surprised on the Gun case. There are 4 justices who are only concerned about politics then the law….well…largely….time will tell for the three Trump nominations.

I don’t know about the case you mentioned. Have a link?

Still….even then; I suspect Thomas, Alito, Kav, Gorsuch, and Barrett already decided before the arguments even began.

The US really needs to find a far better alternative to appointing federal justices.

We could elect them… or we just let the American Bar Association do it all for us.

The Jamesian Republic wrote:

Celritannia wrote:
The US really needs to find a far better alternative to appointing federal justices.

We could elect them… or we just let the American Bar Association do it all for us.

Both bad ideas

American Legionaries wrote:

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
We could elect them… or we just let the American Bar Association do it all for us.

Both bad ideas

Your suggestion?

The Jamesian Republic wrote:

American Legionaries wrote:
Both bad ideas

Your suggestion?

Keep it as is, and maybe limit it's power.

beset by criticism on her proposal to deprive migrant babies of their milk formula, dipshit gop rep doubles down, calling critics "pedo grifters"

The Jamesian Republic wrote:

American Legionaries wrote:
Both bad ideas

Your suggestion?

telconi doesn't want the aba because his fellow republicans want the selection process to be as thoroughly partisan as possible, so more partisan judges will get selected, rammed through congress, and consequently fuck the united states in the ass with authoritarian measures

Not sure if this has been posted here, I’ll link it anyways.

Major social media platforms have mostly refused to comply with countries demanding moderation changes. Seeing as this would be much more destructive (besides being flooded with spam, porn, and gore, how exactly are algorithms supposed to promote all users equally?) to the sites than previous times, it’s unlikely they’d go along with it. The most practical response, from a business standpoint, would probably be restricting services from being used in Texas, which hints what the GOP may actually want: a state where far-right platforms like Gab control the market.

Awful (and downright dumbfounding) legal precedents on free press, property rights, and Internet regulation non-withstanding, the Chinese Texan knockoff platforms will be interesting. Big Red Book, YeehawChat, Houstyin…HiliBili anyone? Ok, I’ll show myself the door.

Moscareinas wrote:beset by criticism on her proposal to deprive migrant babies of their milk formula, dipshit gop rep doubles down, calling critics "pedo grifters"

When in doubt, evoke pedophilia. What fuckwits.

Moscareinas wrote:

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Your suggestion?

telconi doesn't want the aba because his fellow republicans want the selection process to be as thoroughly partisan as possible, so more partisan judges will get selected, rammed through congress, and consequently fuck the united states in the ass with authoritarian measures

Good God, man. You're not the pot, you're the whole damned set of cookware.

American Legionaries wrote:

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Your suggestion?

Keep it as is, and maybe limit it's power.

10 year term limit?

American Legionaries wrote:

Moscareinas wrote:telconi doesn't want the aba because his fellow republicans want the selection process to be as thoroughly partisan as possible, so more partisan judges will get selected, rammed through congress, and consequently fuck the united states in the ass with authoritarian measures

Good God, man. You're not the pot, you're the whole damned set of cookware.

see, you say this as roe and a whole of rulings based on the same rationale as roe are about to be thrown out

The Jamesian Republic wrote:

American Legionaries wrote:
Keep it as is, and maybe limit it's power.

10 year term limit?

keep it as is, throw the republicans out

Moscareinas wrote:

American Legionaries wrote:
Good God, man. You're not the pot, you're the whole damned set of cookware.

see, you say this as roe and a whole of rulings based on the same rationale as roe are about to be thrown out

Even if true, so?

Forsher wrote:

Prima Scriptura wrote:
I still don’t get it

"Who are we to stand in the way of Revelations?" Does that not sound like something someone whose name says scripture is pre-eminent might say?

Gravlen wrote:If the site has a certain amount of daily users - yes.

I missed that bit. What's the qualifying threshold?

I mean, yeah. I would say that no human can’t stop or hasten the eventual Armageddon.

Moscareinas wrote:

The Jamesian Republic wrote:10 year term limit?

keep it as is, throw the republicans out

If this happens then the republicans will just replace the court with their guys once it's their turn. No, they don't have the power to do it first (neither do you), and no, you won't be able to permanently prevent them from regaining control.

American Legionaries wrote:

Moscareinas wrote:see, you say this as roe and a whole of rulings based on the same rationale as roe are about to be thrown out

Even if true, so?

not only am i not the cookware, your shitty authoritarian party's doing what i literally said it has done