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Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:54 pm**

San Lumen wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Because it's only a coup when the other side does it. *nods*

They wouldn’t have been a coup.

>Overturning the results of a free and fair election
>Not a coup

Choose one.

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:56 pm**

San Lumen wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Democrats in my state blocked that guy from getting on the ballot, what then?

Rules are rules. if you don't meet the requirements your not on the ballot that simple.

Sure, whatever you say.

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:57 pm**

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
They did what the voters of the states did, can't expect more than that.

They were never intended to be a rubber stamp. They could have decided to vote the other way but instead they chose blind loyalty to an evil wicked man. If I was Speaker I'd have shredded Trump's ballots on the House floor.

I don't think you understand how the Electoral College works...

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:58 pm**

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Rules are rules. if you don't meet the requirements your not on the ballot that simple.

Sure, whatever you say.

should the five Republican contenders for Governor of Michigan have been allowed on the ballot despite being tossed for not having enough valid signatures?

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:01 pm**

San Lumen wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:man i don't like trump as much as the next reasonable person but come on lumen pick a lane

I think I asked a legit question.

Those tossed off the ballot did not meet the signature requirements.

Care to admit the real reason you have a hard-on for rules shadily enforced to keep the Green Party off the ballot in North Carolina but when it comes to Trump winning the electoral college in 2016, you'd rather the electors defied the rules/outcome?

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:01 pm**

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
They did what the voters of the states did, can't expect more than that.

They were never intended to be a rubber stamp. They could have decided to vote the other way but instead they chose blind loyalty to an evil wicked man. If I was Speaker I'd have shredded Trump's ballots on the House floor.

Well, he did lose the popular vote, and I would argue it should be the only vote that matters and to dissolve the electoral college. But it was a fair win in accordance with the system currently in place.

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:02 pm**

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I think I asked a legit question.

Those tossed off the ballot did not meet the signature requirements.

Care to admit the real reason you have a hard-on for rules shadily enforced to keep the Green Party off the ballot in North Carolina but when it comes to Trump winning the electoral college in 2016, you'd rather the electors defied the rules/outcome?

"Do as I say, not as I do" comes to mind...

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:11 pm**

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
And the Libertarian and Constitution Party vote out did the difference by a much larger margin, which meant Trump would've won no matter what. In fact, he also would've won several more states and the popular votes if all the major third parties get counted.

Which would he have won?

Assuming the Republicans were as good about keeping Libertarians off the ballot as Democrats are at keeping Greens off the ballot, Trump would've won Minnesota, New Hampshire, Nevada, and New Mexico in 2016. In 2020, Trump would've won Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, and possibly Pennsylvania.

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:12 pm**

San Lumen wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:
That's a lie. In many states, 3rd Party candidates need to get easily 3 or 4 times the number of Republicans and Democrats.

Ok. Those in power made the rules. Don't like them vote for people who will change them.

Kannap wrote:Democrats in my state blocked that guy from getting on the ballot, what then?

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:12 pm**

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I think I asked a legit question.

Those tossed off the ballot did not meet the signature requirements.

Care to admit the real reason you have a hard-on for rules shadily enforced to keep the Green Party off the ballot in North Carolina but when it comes to Trump winning the electoral college in 2016, you'd rather the electors defied the rules/outcome?

What nefarious tactics were used?

The electoral college was meant to be check on the people. Republican electors should have cast their ballot for popular vote winner as Trump was unfit to be president. If his base didn’t like it too bad. I’d rather have had the constitutional crisis.

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:15 pm**

San Lumen wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Sure, whatever you say.

should the five Republican contenders for Governor of Michigan have been allowed on the ballot despite being tossed for not having enough valid signatures?

I don't know enough about what happened in Michigan or the circumstances behind that decision to speak on it. You do know I don't live in Michigan, I don't really give a shit what Michigan does.

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:15 pm**

San Lumen wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Care to admit the real reason you have a hard-on for rules shadily enforced to keep the Green Party off the ballot in North Carolina but when it comes to Trump winning the electoral college in 2016, you'd rather the electors defied the rules/outcome?

What nefarious tactics were used?

The electoral college was meant to be check on the people. Republican electors should have cast their ballot for popular vote winner as Trump was unfit to be president. If his base didn’t like it too bad. I’d rather have had the constitutional crisis.

The electoral college was meant to preserve the Southern states' partial credit for the Blacks they did not permit to vote.

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:16 pm**

Here's thread 13.

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:17 pm**

We are at the end of thread friends. I wanted to retire from this thread nearly a month ago but as soon as I was out I got pulled back in. However with this thread’s ending so shall my participation in it end now.. In the next thread I will post from time to time but it will be infrequent. But I will continue to follow this thread stay updated and wonder how we will reach the end of this tunnel.

Until we meet again,

The Jamesian Republic

Posted: **Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:17 pm**

Shrillland wrote:Here's thread 13.

And with that, iLock.

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