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American Politics XII: We Can Do Bad All By Ourselves

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What Issues Are Most Important To You This Cycle?

The Economy(Non-Inflation Issues)
67
12%
Defence
34
6%
Civil/Human Rights
92
17%
Court Reform
33
6%
Healthcare
61
11%
Inflation
73
13%
Education
38
7%
The Environment
86
16%
Infrastructure
46
8%
Other(Let us Know!)
19
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Total votes : 549

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:47 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
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It’s one guy throwing a prolonged temper tantrum because the country won’t recognise him as the new messiah. That’s not awesome, it’s just pathetic.

:) :rofl: lol.


I’m serious. Why should we be pandering to Trump’s messianic delusions like this?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:50 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote: :) :rofl: lol.


I’m serious. Why should we be pandering to Trump’s messianic delusions like this?

Your serious, I'm serious and we're serious too, :) :rofl: lol.
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:52 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
the far-right is still holding strong

read this party platform:
https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads ... 6-2022.pdf
this is the official platform for the Texas GOP (Republican Party).

I read it, sounds very conservative Republican, there is nothing wrong with it, according to me and us.

https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads ... 6-2022.pdf


yeah, I know you agree with it. I just think it's messed up that you think:
(6) Self-sufficient families, founded on the traditional marriage of a natural man and a natural woman.

29. Equal Rights Amendment: We call upon the 88th Texas Legislature to adopt a resolution clarifying that the 1972 ratification by the 62nd Texas Legislature of the proposed Equal Rights Amendment to the United States Constitution was valid only through March 22, 1979.

31. Prayer, Bible, and Ten Commandments in Schools: We support prayer, the Bible, and the Ten Commandments being returned to our schools, courthouses, and other government buildings.

34. State Electoral College:

36.Equal Protection for the Preborn: We urge lawmakers to enact legislation to abolish abortion by immediately securing the right to life and equal protection of the laws to all preborn children from the moment of fertilization,

40. Carbon Tax: We oppose all efforts to classify carbon dioxide as a pollutant.

We support the defunding of “climate justice” initiatives, the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency, and repeal of the Endangered Species Act, and we oppose the “America the Beautiful” Initiative, also known as the 30 x 30 program.

343 d. Ban corporations who attempt to suppress funding for Texas industries from doing business with the State of Texas and its subdivisions.
Make it illegal for banks and financial institutions operating in Texas to make lending decisions based on anything other than financial concerns. The model for such legislation should be the Fair Access to Financial Services rule promulgated by President Trump’s Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, which was immediately suspended by the current occupant of the White House.
Add penalties in Texas law for corporations operating in Texas who lead boycotts against Texas due to legislative action to protect the rights of Texans to decline vaccination, protect the unborn, stop the teaching of Critical Race Theory in schools, compete in sports with those of their own biological gender, or to protect children and juveniles against sexual organ mutilation and hormones and puberty blockers designed to fake transition from one gender to another.

348 e. Consider the expansion or use of existing Texas anti-trust law to prohibit collusion between woke corporations to cancel/drive others out of business.

421 71. Regulating the Internet: We oppose efforts to implement net-neutrality on internet service providers.

484 87. Defund Big Government, Not the Police: Any large city or county that cuts its police budget by more than 10 percent should be required to cut its property tax revenue by the same or greater percentage.

566 105. Sexual Education: We demand the State Legislature pass a law prohibiting the teaching of sex education, sexual health, or sexual choice or identity in any public school in any grade whatsoever, or disseminating or permitting the dissemination by any party of any material regarding the same. All school districts, individual schools, or charter schools are prohibited from contracting with or making any payment to any third party for material concerning any of the above topics. Until this prohibition goes into effect, sexual education shall only utilize sexual risk avoidance programs and promote abstinence outside of marriage.

587 108. Religious Freedom and Public Schools: We urge school administrators and officials not to infringe on Texas school students’ and staffs’ rights to pray and engage in religious speech, individually or in groups, on school property without government interference. We urge the Legislature to end censorship of discussion of religion in our founding documents and encourage discussing those documents, including the Bible as their basis. Students have the right to exhibit religious items on school property.

(tfw you can preach all you want about about God to your students, but can't mention your spouse for fear of being accused of "indoctrination")
Curriculum of Instructional Excellence shall include the following:
602 e. Social Studies, including geography, economics, US and World History. Such instruction should focus on American exceptionalism and the benefits of the free-enterprise system and includes instruction on the consistent failures of socialism and communism.

608 110. Founding Documents in High School: We support a high school level curriculum (rather than 8th grade level) for the study of American history (pre-1877) that is heavily weighted toward the study of original founding documents, including the Declaration of Independence, the United States Constitution, the Constitutional Convention, the Federalist Papers, and Founders’ writings.

(fyi the civil war was pre-1877. gee, I wonder why Republicans don't want children to learn about slavery and the Confederacy.
111. American Identity: We favor strengthening our common American identity, which includes the contribution and assimilation of diverse racial and ethnic groups. We reject Critical Race Theory as a post- Marxist ideology that seeks to undermine the system of law and order itself and to reduce individuals to their group identity alone. We support legislation to remove this ideology from government programs, including education involving race, discrimination, and racial awareness. To facilitate the appreciation of our American identity, the contrast between freedom and the tyrannical history of socialism/communism throughout history must be taught. Students shall pledge allegiance to the United States and Texas flags daily to instill patriotism. Students have the right to display patriotic items on school property. Schools should have the options to display the National Motto “In God We Trust.”

621 112. Scientific Theories: We support objective teaching of scientific theories, such as life origins and climate change. These shall be taught as challengeable scientific theories subject to change as new data is produced. Teachers and students shall discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these theories openly, without fear of retribution or discrimination of any kind.

641 116. Education on Humanity of the Preborn Child: Texas students should learn about the Humanity of the Preborn Child, including life-affirming definitions of life and the study of life, life begins at fertilization, milestones of fetal development at two-week gestational intervals, use of fetal baby models, witnessing of a live ultrasound, viewing the Miracle of Life type video, and (for high school students) the contents of the Woman’s Right to Know booklet.

648 117. Abolish Department of Education: Since education is not an enumerated power of the federal government, we believe the Department of Education should be abolished, and the transfer of any of its functions to any other federal agency should be prohibited.

681 124. Gender Identity: The official position of the Texas schools shall be that there are only two genders: biological male and biological female. We oppose transgender normalizing curriculum and pronoun use. We hold that biological men shall compete against other biological men and biological women shall compete against other biological women in athletics in the public school system of Texas and at the collegiate level.

etc, etc. (I'm only halfway through the report and skipped a lot of text) are okay. now, are you willing to engage in discussion about your beliefs - without pulling the "my opinion" card - or not? I'm assuming it's the latter, as you jumped straight into your favorite defense without me even confronting you.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:56 pm

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:I read it, sounds very conservative Republican, there is nothing wrong with it, according to me and us.

https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads ... 6-2022.pdf


yeah, I know you agree with it. I just think it's messed up that you think:
(6) Self-sufficient families, founded on the traditional marriage of a natural man and a natural woman.

29. Equal Rights Amendment: We call upon the 88th Texas Legislature to adopt a resolution clarifying that the 1972 ratification by the 62nd Texas Legislature of the proposed Equal Rights Amendment to the United States Constitution was valid only through March 22, 1979.

31. Prayer, Bible, and Ten Commandments in Schools: We support prayer, the Bible, and the Ten Commandments being returned to our schools, courthouses, and other government buildings.

34. State Electoral College:

36.Equal Protection for the Preborn: We urge lawmakers to enact legislation to abolish abortion by immediately securing the right to life and equal protection of the laws to all preborn children from the moment of fertilization,

40. Carbon Tax: We oppose all efforts to classify carbon dioxide as a pollutant.

We support the defunding of “climate justice” initiatives, the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency, and repeal of the Endangered Species Act, and we oppose the “America the Beautiful” Initiative, also known as the 30 x 30 program.

343 d. Ban corporations who attempt to suppress funding for Texas industries from doing business with the State of Texas and its subdivisions.
Make it illegal for banks and financial institutions operating in Texas to make lending decisions based on anything other than financial concerns. The model for such legislation should be the Fair Access to Financial Services rule promulgated by President Trump’s Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, which was immediately suspended by the current occupant of the White House.
Add penalties in Texas law for corporations operating in Texas who lead boycotts against Texas due to legislative action to protect the rights of Texans to decline vaccination, protect the unborn, stop the teaching of Critical Race Theory in schools, compete in sports with those of their own biological gender, or to protect children and juveniles against sexual organ mutilation and hormones and puberty blockers designed to fake transition from one gender to another.

348 e. Consider the expansion or use of existing Texas anti-trust law to prohibit collusion between woke corporations to cancel/drive others out of business.

421 71. Regulating the Internet: We oppose efforts to implement net-neutrality on internet service providers.

484 87. Defund Big Government, Not the Police: Any large city or county that cuts its police budget by more than 10 percent should be required to cut its property tax revenue by the same or greater percentage.

566 105. Sexual Education: We demand the State Legislature pass a law prohibiting the teaching of sex education, sexual health, or sexual choice or identity in any public school in any grade whatsoever, or disseminating or permitting the dissemination by any party of any material regarding the same. All school districts, individual schools, or charter schools are prohibited from contracting with or making any payment to any third party for material concerning any of the above topics. Until this prohibition goes into effect, sexual education shall only utilize sexual risk avoidance programs and promote abstinence outside of marriage.

587 108. Religious Freedom and Public Schools: We urge school administrators and officials not to infringe on Texas school students’ and staffs’ rights to pray and engage in religious speech, individually or in groups, on school property without government interference. We urge the Legislature to end censorship of discussion of religion in our founding documents and encourage discussing those documents, including the Bible as their basis. Students have the right to exhibit religious items on school property.

(tfw you can preach all you want about about God to your students, but can't mention your spouse for fear of being accused of "indoctrination")
Curriculum of Instructional Excellence shall include the following:
602 e. Social Studies, including geography, economics, US and World History. Such instruction should focus on American exceptionalism and the benefits of the free-enterprise system and includes instruction on the consistent failures of socialism and communism.

608 110. Founding Documents in High School: We support a high school level curriculum (rather than 8th grade level) for the study of American history (pre-1877) that is heavily weighted toward the study of original founding documents, including the Declaration of Independence, the United States Constitution, the Constitutional Convention, the Federalist Papers, and Founders’ writings.

(fyi the civil war was pre-1877. gee, I wonder why Republicans don't want children to learn about slavery and the Confederacy.
111. American Identity: We favor strengthening our common American identity, which includes the contribution and assimilation of diverse racial and ethnic groups. We reject Critical Race Theory as a post- Marxist ideology that seeks to undermine the system of law and order itself and to reduce individuals to their group identity alone. We support legislation to remove this ideology from government programs, including education involving race, discrimination, and racial awareness. To facilitate the appreciation of our American identity, the contrast between freedom and the tyrannical history of socialism/communism throughout history must be taught. Students shall pledge allegiance to the United States and Texas flags daily to instill patriotism. Students have the right to display patriotic items on school property. Schools should have the options to display the National Motto “In God We Trust.”

621 112. Scientific Theories: We support objective teaching of scientific theories, such as life origins and climate change. These shall be taught as challengeable scientific theories subject to change as new data is produced. Teachers and students shall discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these theories openly, without fear of retribution or discrimination of any kind.

641 116. Education on Humanity of the Preborn Child: Texas students should learn about the Humanity of the Preborn Child, including life-affirming definitions of life and the study of life, life begins at fertilization, milestones of fetal development at two-week gestational intervals, use of fetal baby models, witnessing of a live ultrasound, viewing the Miracle of Life type video, and (for high school students) the contents of the Woman’s Right to Know booklet.

648 117. Abolish Department of Education: Since education is not an enumerated power of the federal government, we believe the Department of Education should be abolished, and the transfer of any of its functions to any other federal agency should be prohibited.

681 124. Gender Identity: The official position of the Texas schools shall be that there are only two genders: biological male and biological female. We oppose transgender normalizing curriculum and pronoun use. We hold that biological men shall compete against other biological men and biological women shall compete against other biological women in athletics in the public school system of Texas and at the collegiate level.

etc, etc. (I'm only halfway through the report and skipped a lot of text) are okay. now, are you willing to engage in discussion about your beliefs - without pulling the "my opinion" card - or not? I'm assuming it's the latter, as you jumped straight into your favorite defense without me even confronting you.

I'll be honest, I just assumed it was bad, but holy fuck.
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/active-police-investigation-shuts-down-roads-around-mysterious-georgia-monument/SYW477PW45AOBLMS56PWSWSDXQ/

Georgia Guidestones damaged in bombing. Former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Kandiss Taylor attacked them in her campaign.


I'm not actually super upset about it. some of the stuff written on them was legitimately not great, and while the bomber was probably some crazy conspiracy theorist who believed it was written by the satanic globalist elite or something (and it's probably someone's property, so that's not cool), I'm not attached to them or anything.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:57 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I laugh with sorrow when that happens.


I know how to fix your pain. Secure your head so you can beat it on the table when you hear him say something dumb.

You will have to secure your hands as well. Head slapping does add up.


Thanks for the advice lol.

But my sorrow is the fact I voted for him in 2016 even though I never cared for him.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:59 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote: :) :rofl: lol.


I’m serious. Why should we be pandering to Trump’s messianic delusions like this?


There is only Messiah and it’s not Donald Trump.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:59 pm

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/active-police-investigation-shuts-down-roads-around-mysterious-georgia-monument/SYW477PW45AOBLMS56PWSWSDXQ/

Georgia Guidestones damaged in bombing. Former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Kandiss Taylor attacked them in her campaign.


I'm not actually super upset about it. some of the stuff written on them was legitimately not great, and while the bomber was probably some crazy conspiracy theorist who believed it was written by the satanic globalist elite or something (and it's probably someone's property, so that's not cool), I'm not attached to them or anything.

It’s public property.

But they where commission by a racist wacko
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:00 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
yeah, I know you agree with it. I just think it's messed up that you think:













(tfw you can preach all you want about about God to your students, but can't mention your spouse for fear of being accused of "indoctrination")


(fyi the civil war was pre-1877. gee, I wonder why Republicans don't want children to learn about slavery and the Confederacy.





etc, etc. (I'm only halfway through the report and skipped a lot of text) are okay. now, are you willing to engage in discussion about your beliefs - without pulling the "my opinion" card - or not? I'm assuming it's the latter, as you jumped straight into your favorite defense without me even confronting you.

I'll be honest, I just assumed it was bad, but holy fuck.


one thing you might notice is that it's inconsistent. they want to stop big tech censorship, but they also don't want net neutrality. they want smaller government, but want to ban lots of stuff in schools. at the same time, they want prayer in schools. it's not coherent or logical.
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Postby Port Caverton » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:02 pm

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:

I'll be honest, I just assumed it was bad, but holy fuck.


one thing you might notice is that it's inconsistent. they want to stop big tech censorship, but they also don't want net neutrality. they want smaller government, but want to ban lots of stuff in schools. at the same time, they want prayer in schools. it's not coherent or logical.

I think it's just to appeal to the social conservatives. It doesn't have to be logical and coherent as long as they get the support of their base in the election.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:02 pm

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:

I'll be honest, I just assumed it was bad, but holy fuck.


one thing you might notice is that it's inconsistent. they want to stop big tech censorship, but they also don't want net neutrality. they want smaller government, but want to ban lots of stuff in schools. at the same time, they want prayer in schools. it's not coherent or logical.


And isn’t it ironic considering that when they released this it was a few days before Roe was overturned and in this manifesto they want to abolish all federal welfare?

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:03 pm

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:I read it, sounds very conservative Republican, there is nothing wrong with it, according to me and us.

https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads ... 6-2022.pdf


yeah, I know you agree with it. I just think it's messed up that you think:
(6) Self-sufficient families, founded on the traditional marriage of a natural man and a natural woman.

29. Equal Rights Amendment: We call upon the 88th Texas Legislature to adopt a resolution clarifying that the 1972 ratification by the 62nd Texas Legislature of the proposed Equal Rights Amendment to the United States Constitution was valid only through March 22, 1979.

31. Prayer, Bible, and Ten Commandments in Schools: We support prayer, the Bible, and the Ten Commandments being returned to our schools, courthouses, and other government buildings.

34. State Electoral College:

36.Equal Protection for the Preborn: We urge lawmakers to enact legislation to abolish abortion by immediately securing the right to life and equal protection of the laws to all preborn children from the moment of fertilization,

40. Carbon Tax: We oppose all efforts to classify carbon dioxide as a pollutant.

We support the defunding of “climate justice” initiatives, the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency, and repeal of the Endangered Species Act, and we oppose the “America the Beautiful” Initiative, also known as the 30 x 30 program.

343 d. Ban corporations who attempt to suppress funding for Texas industries from doing business with the State of Texas and its subdivisions.
Make it illegal for banks and financial institutions operating in Texas to make lending decisions based on anything other than financial concerns. The model for such legislation should be the Fair Access to Financial Services rule promulgated by President Trump’s Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, which was immediately suspended by the current occupant of the White House.
Add penalties in Texas law for corporations operating in Texas who lead boycotts against Texas due to legislative action to protect the rights of Texans to decline vaccination, protect the unborn, stop the teaching of Critical Race Theory in schools, compete in sports with those of their own biological gender, or to protect children and juveniles against sexual organ mutilation and hormones and puberty blockers designed to fake transition from one gender to another.

348 e. Consider the expansion or use of existing Texas anti-trust law to prohibit collusion between woke corporations to cancel/drive others out of business.

421 71. Regulating the Internet: We oppose efforts to implement net-neutrality on internet service providers.

484 87. Defund Big Government, Not the Police: Any large city or county that cuts its police budget by more than 10 percent should be required to cut its property tax revenue by the same or greater percentage.

566 105. Sexual Education: We demand the State Legislature pass a law prohibiting the teaching of sex education, sexual health, or sexual choice or identity in any public school in any grade whatsoever, or disseminating or permitting the dissemination by any party of any material regarding the same. All school districts, individual schools, or charter schools are prohibited from contracting with or making any payment to any third party for material concerning any of the above topics. Until this prohibition goes into effect, sexual education shall only utilize sexual risk avoidance programs and promote abstinence outside of marriage.

587 108. Religious Freedom and Public Schools: We urge school administrators and officials not to infringe on Texas school students’ and staffs’ rights to pray and engage in religious speech, individually or in groups, on school property without government interference. We urge the Legislature to end censorship of discussion of religion in our founding documents and encourage discussing those documents, including the Bible as their basis. Students have the right to exhibit religious items on school property.

(tfw you can preach all you want about about God to your students, but can't mention your spouse for fear of being accused of "indoctrination")
Curriculum of Instructional Excellence shall include the following:
602 e. Social Studies, including geography, economics, US and World History. Such instruction should focus on American exceptionalism and the benefits of the free-enterprise system and includes instruction on the consistent failures of socialism and communism.

608 110. Founding Documents in High School: We support a high school level curriculum (rather than 8th grade level) for the study of American history (pre-1877) that is heavily weighted toward the study of original founding documents, including the Declaration of Independence, the United States Constitution, the Constitutional Convention, the Federalist Papers, and Founders’ writings.

(fyi the civil war was pre-1877. gee, I wonder why Republicans don't want children to learn about slavery and the Confederacy.
111. American Identity: We favor strengthening our common American identity, which includes the contribution and assimilation of diverse racial and ethnic groups. We reject Critical Race Theory as a post- Marxist ideology that seeks to undermine the system of law and order itself and to reduce individuals to their group identity alone. We support legislation to remove this ideology from government programs, including education involving race, discrimination, and racial awareness. To facilitate the appreciation of our American identity, the contrast between freedom and the tyrannical history of socialism/communism throughout history must be taught. Students shall pledge allegiance to the United States and Texas flags daily to instill patriotism. Students have the right to display patriotic items on school property. Schools should have the options to display the National Motto “In God We Trust.”

621 112. Scientific Theories: We support objective teaching of scientific theories, such as life origins and climate change. These shall be taught as challengeable scientific theories subject to change as new data is produced. Teachers and students shall discuss the strengths and weaknesses of these theories openly, without fear of retribution or discrimination of any kind.

641 116. Education on Humanity of the Preborn Child: Texas students should learn about the Humanity of the Preborn Child, including life-affirming definitions of life and the study of life, life begins at fertilization, milestones of fetal development at two-week gestational intervals, use of fetal baby models, witnessing of a live ultrasound, viewing the Miracle of Life type video, and (for high school students) the contents of the Woman’s Right to Know booklet.

648 117. Abolish Department of Education: Since education is not an enumerated power of the federal government, we believe the Department of Education should be abolished, and the transfer of any of its functions to any other federal agency should be prohibited.

681 124. Gender Identity: The official position of the Texas schools shall be that there are only two genders: biological male and biological female. We oppose transgender normalizing curriculum and pronoun use. We hold that biological men shall compete against other biological men and biological women shall compete against other biological women in athletics in the public school system of Texas and at the collegiate level.

etc, etc. (I'm only halfway through the report and skipped a lot of text) are okay. now, are you willing to engage in discussion about your beliefs - without pulling the "my opinion" card - or not? I'm assuming it's the latter, as you jumped straight into your favorite defense without me even confronting you.

Very solid Conservative Republican, Nationalist views, I strongly support and we strongly support, with Pride and Honor. I am the real thing and we are the real thing, with Pride and Honor.
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I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:03 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
one thing you might notice is that it's inconsistent. they want to stop big tech censorship, but they also don't want net neutrality. they want smaller government, but want to ban lots of stuff in schools. at the same time, they want prayer in schools. it's not coherent or logical.

I think it's just to appeal to the social conservatives. It doesn't have to be logical and coherent as long as they get the support of their base in the election.


Did they mention any countries they wanted to bomb?

I know you would like to hear that lol.

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Postby Port Caverton » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:05 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:I think it's just to appeal to the social conservatives. It doesn't have to be logical and coherent as long as they get the support of their base in the election.


Did they mention any countries they wanted to bomb?

I know you would like to hear that lol.

Since the modern right-wing in the west tends to be isolationist, I'll support the libs instead. I agree with them on economics and cultural issues anyway.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:09 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Did they mention any countries they wanted to bomb?

I know you would like to hear that lol.

Since the modern right-wing in the west tends to be isolationist, I'll support the libs instead. I agree with them on economics and cultural issues anyway.


Oh.

I consider myself a Liberal because I value individual freedoms and liberties and want to expand them.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:13 pm

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:

I'll be honest, I just assumed it was bad, but holy fuck.


one thing you might notice is that it's inconsistent. they want to stop big tech censorship, but they also don't want net neutrality. they want smaller government, but want to ban lots of stuff in schools. at the same time, they want prayer in schools. it's not coherent or logical.

It comes off as 'randomly assorted red meat scraps.' Or like Spam the actual meat product, Specially Processed Assorted Meats. Like they went down a checklist of right wing single issue voters and hit 'all of the above.'
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:19 pm

The Democrats are Political Hypocrites in many ways too. The Democrats are not Political Saints, :) :rofl: lol.
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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:I remember once at a Trump rally during the 2020 election campaign, we were at a park and we had the bigger crowd, the cops were there to keep us apart, but a Biden guy broke through to our side, I was ready to defend him from them, if they threatened him, but he just said hi, shook hands with a few of them and talked no politics, than he went back to his side, no one threatened him or cussed him out.


No one cares.

I still waiting for you to tell me the difference between a fact and opinion and give an example of both.

Fact: roe vs wade has bee; overturned
Opinion: this decision was a bad decision
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:25 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
yeah, I know you agree with it. I just think it's messed up that you think:













(tfw you can preach all you want about about God to your students, but can't mention your spouse for fear of being accused of "indoctrination")


(fyi the civil war was pre-1877. gee, I wonder why Republicans don't want children to learn about slavery and the Confederacy.





etc, etc. (I'm only halfway through the report and skipped a lot of text) are okay. now, are you willing to engage in discussion about your beliefs - without pulling the "my opinion" card - or not? I'm assuming it's the latter, as you jumped straight into your favorite defense without me even confronting you.

I'll be honest, I just assumed it was bad, but holy fuck.


Remember all the talk about compassionate conservatism? Looks like that is dead. Oh well. We can always offer asylum to Texans who can escape.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:27 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Since the modern right-wing in the west tends to be isolationist, I'll support the libs instead. I agree with them on economics and cultural issues anyway.


Oh.

I consider myself a Liberal because I value individual freedoms and liberties and want to expand them.


Filthy commie. I bet you want to make voting easier too.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:29 pm

How dare arizona make you prove who you say you are to vote. I have to prove who I say I am to buy a beer, but I don’t have to do it to vote for president.
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:31 pm

Catholic America wrote:How dare arizona make you prove who you say you are to vote. I have to prove who I say I am to buy a beer, but I don’t have to do it to vote for president.


I failing to see how a poll tax and proving to legally buy beer are the same?
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:31 pm

Kannap wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The Georgia Guidestones, somewhat mysterious stone tablets on which are inscribed instructions on how to structure a post-apocalyptic society, were bombed early Wednesday morning. One assumes the perpetrators were one of the far-right conspiracy theorists who hold the monument to be Satanic.


Great, now I'm falling down a rabbit hole about some mysterious monument (that I didn't know existed until now) commissioned in secrecy by some mysterious man representing a mysterious group. This can only mean one thing: my ADHD meds are wearing off for the day.

Or maybe that's what the globalists want you to think.


Rusozak wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:As already mentioned it’s conspiracy nuts attacking conspiracy nuts


Seems kinda strange to destroy instructions on how to survive the coming apocalypse you believe is going to happen, though.

The instructions are...dubious, at best.
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the Earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

I don't think that eugenics, population controls, and conlangs would really be of great use to any future society.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:32 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:The Democrats are Political Hypocrites in many ways too. The Democrats are not Political Saints, :) :rofl: lol.


We know. You do not have to tell us.

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Postby Catholic America » Wed Jul 06, 2022 3:33 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Catholic America wrote:How dare arizona make you prove who you say you are to vote. I have to prove who I say I am to buy a beer, but I don’t have to do it to vote for president.


I failing to see how a poll tax and proving to legally buy beer are the same?

I’m talking about voter ids. Poll taxes are banned
Talking about how democracy is at risk is the new won’t someone think of the children.

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